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Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period.
    #15147052 - 09/28/11 03:13 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

The federal government, notably under the current administration, continues to paint itself into a corner politically speaking regarding Mr. Obama’s pre-election promises to ‘fix the problem with medical marijuana’.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) issued a memorandum on September 21 to all gun dealers in the United States for the expressed purpose of informing them that they MUST discriminate against lawful medical cannabis patients and DENY them their Second Amendment right to buy and possess a firearm for hunting and/or personal protection.



The feds newest ‘clarifying’ memo regarding medical cannabis (proceeding the 2009 Ogden and 2011 Cole memos) is notable because members of NORML’s Legal Committee recently have been successfully challenging local and state law enforcement officials who’ve chosen to discriminate against lawful medical cannabis patients by denying them permits for a concealed weapon.

Why is it OK and does it make any sense at all for lawful medical patients who are prescribed powerful painkillers and sedatives to be able to enjoy their Second Amendment rights and responsibilities, but medical cannabis patients who want to hunt or have self-protection in their homes are overtly discriminated against by our own federal government?

This new ATF memo will provide an interesting test to see if the National Rifle Association really does support citizens’ rights to bear arms.

http://blog.norml.org/2011/09/28/feds-to-legal-medical-marijuana-patients-you-dont-have-second-amendment-rights-period/


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: skatealex2]
    #15147114 - 09/28/11 03:31 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Because marijuana makes you crazy, didn't you see Reefer Madness? :rolleyes:


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Return II Space] * 1
    #15147120 - 09/28/11 03:33 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

No....this is about butt hurt federal establishments getting angry that Marijuana is making progress.

Let the kids throw a bitch fit, who needs guns anyway :shrug:


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15147298 - 09/28/11 04:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Somebody please arrest and imprison these federal fucks for life for infringing upon our constitutionally protected rights. They are a threat to our liberties and it is our duty to prosecute them for being so. It is plainly obvious that they are trying to take this ability away from the only people willing to challenge them.

Please wake up America...


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
    #15147301 - 09/28/11 04:12 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Ethnobotanical said:
No....this is about butt hurt federal establishments getting angry that Marijuana is making progress.




That.


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Let the kids throw a bitch fit, who needs guns anyway




We all do.

The right to own a gun is far more important than the right to light up. You can't defend your self by throwing a joint or a pipe at someone. Unless it's a really big pipe.

Note to the clueless. All rights are important. But... perspective people.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15147454 - 09/28/11 04:43 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Ethnobotanical said:
No....this is about butt hurt federal establishments getting angry that Marijuana is making progress.




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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #15147599 - 09/28/11 05:05 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

If we let them get away with this it won't be much longer until we all lose our 2nd ammendment rights... and then 1st, then 3rd, then 4th etc.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: drjustice]
    #15147698 - 09/28/11 05:21 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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If we let them get away with this it won't be much longer until we all lose our 2nd ammendment rights... and then 1st, then 3rd, then 4th etc.




True :strokebeard:


Gotta say though, free speech is probably the most important right we have. As long as we dont lose that, all is not lost!

Still the death of one right I dont agree with is one step closer to taking away one I do :eek:


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15147711 - 09/28/11 05:25 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Oh so you don't believe in the right to defend yourself from attackers? The shady people who ruin it for everyone are the ones who'll have them whether or not they're legal.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: drjustice]
    #15147782 - 09/28/11 05:38 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

It also says you cant hunt with guns.... not all gun owners have it for protection ya know...


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: gnarfbuckle]
    #15147831 - 09/28/11 05:45 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, this has to be one of the shittiest things I've seen the Obama administration do in direct violation of constitutional rights.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: 5HTSynaptrip] * 1
    #15148086 - 09/28/11 06:38 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yet people can still go to the liquor store after owning a gun. Ridiculous.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #15148138 - 09/28/11 06:49 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

You know what I would love? A massive military mutiny against our government. We swore an oath to protect the constitutional rights against any force, foreign or DOMESTIC.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15148150 - 09/28/11 06:52 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

We have the ability to change the constitution so there's no excuse for making laws that violate it. I don't know why judges have allowed lawmakers to avoid that process. If you can't get the higher majority requirement to pass a constitutional amendment then it's obvious people support the rights over the laws. Then consider that this isn't even a law, it's just a group of people without the proper authority to even make laws taking away rights. WTF!?


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Kizzle]
    #15148244 - 09/28/11 07:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

People need to start growing what they want, smoke what they want, and carry guns if they want, without a care for the laws. Only then will there be a change i think. If they get caught, they do their time, get out, and do it all over again. it seems like the only way to go about this. As long you aren't selling your grows, guns, etc. I think there could be much success if many people joined in on such a strike.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15148595 - 09/28/11 07:54 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Let the kids throw a bitch fit, who needs guns anyway :shrug:




For protection and hunting are 2 very valid reasons in my opinion.

People who need guns are usually people dependent on themselves.

Nothing like hunting your own animal and keeping yourself fed for a good part of the winter, and nothing like knowing you can defend yourself is a situation arises.

Or you could buy food and call the cops (who will come with guns) when a problem arises.


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Subconscious]
    #15148645 - 09/28/11 08:03 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Since when do the feds ever abide by the "laws"

read the other news story about giving people herb for years as part of an exclusive exception program. they are always pooping out of their mouths


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15148703 - 09/28/11 08:14 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

drjustice said:
If we let them get away with this it won't be much longer until we all lose our 2nd ammendment rights... and then 1st, then 3rd, then 4th etc.




True :strokebeard:


Gotta say though, free speech is probably the most important right we have. As long as we dont lose that, all is not lost!

Still the death of one right I dont agree with is one step closer to taking away one I do :eek:





Couldn't agree more with that one. This is some fucked up shit


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: SacredPredictions]
    #15148737 - 09/28/11 08:21 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

What about MMJ patients who already had a registered weapon before this memo was issued? Are they now in violation of this law?


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Re: Feds To Legal Medical Marijuana Patients: You Don’t Have Second Amendment Rights. Period. [Re: SacredPredictions]
    #15149122 - 09/28/11 09:37 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Two things:

1st: If they make owning guns a crime, the only people who sill have guns are criminals, many of them violent ones.

2nd: They are already trying to(if they haven't already) taken away the right to freedom of speech in certain Ultra Violent video games (and that's just a start).  That didn't get that much press...  i wonder why.. :rolleyes:


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