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Shrooms and seroquel * 1
    #14336258 - 04/22/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm currently being weaned off seroquel XR and am currently on 400 mg daily, in a couple weeks I will be down to 300 mg. I take it for bipolar type 2. I've heard of some people who take 600 mg of seroquel still being able to trip on an 1/8 oz of shrooms (that person did not stop taking seroquel), but I've also heard of people not tripping at all even after taking a 1/4 oz of shrooms (that person stopped taking seroquel for about 2 days).

Anyway, long story short, a few weeks ago I realized that this seroquel is causing suicidal ideation within me and that is why I'm weaning myself off (that is indeed one of the side effects). After I came into a better mood, I did research about near death experiences, noetic science, and consciousness. I've figured out that I need to just take a few trips and do some soul searching. I am pretty experienced with psychedelics. I've done acid several times (up to 4 hits), and I've done shrooms several times as well (up to an 1/8 ounce at a time). I have done both without a babysitter on a couple of occasions. I've had bad trips (thought the 'bad' part lasted probably just 30 minutes or so) and know how to get out of them. I've read albert hoffman's book "LSD My Problem Child" which talks about exactly how psychedelics affect the mind. I've also experienced mild "ego death" where my consciousness felt like it was detached from my physical body. So, I am NOT looking for people trying to tell me "don't take psychedelics if you have mental illness." That's not what this thread is about. I know all about set and setting. A bad trip is all in the mind anyway, you just need to focus on your thoughts and start trying to think about something else, or about nothing at all and just focus on your breath. Stuff like that.

Anyway, I plan on purchasing a 1/2 ounce of shrooms and taking them a few times. No less than an 1/8 at a time. I am going to do it for PURELY spiritual purposes (not for fun) so I can take a look inward and figure out some things about my life and answer some questions I have about my life. Some of the questions are unknown, all I know is that I really need to take a spiritual journey. I'd rather do DMT but that is...a little difficult to obtain, lol! I'm just going to do them at night on my bed and just think inward and pay attention to my thoughts.

So what I am asking is if anyone has knowledge about how many days I should NOT take seroquel in order to have a super good trip. I take it before bedtime. I have not shroomed or done acid since I was 21 (3.5 years ago) and that was before I was diagnosed with bipolar type 2 (I was diagnosed the same year I shroomed/dosed.) I would say I was more unstable mentally back then than I am now. The meds have helped me see the stable side of life in terms of mood swings.  Thanks, guys.

Edited by occollegeboi (04/23/11 12:24 AM)

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14336514 - 04/23/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just a warning man...but seriously if you have any kind of issue's even just temporary issues I would not recommend shroomin.

But if you were to. I would suggest a 2g dose at first. You'll get a nice body high off of that and have a lot of mental high which would fully allow you to look inward while keeping clearer of the visuals which might be heavy for someone with drug interaction/mental illness.

Just a warning, do what you want of course, but though I don't know you in person I don't want to see anyone get hurt. seriously.


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to see all the other people, i dont know what they mean
it was magic at first, when they spoke without sound
but now this world is gonna hurt, you better turn that thing down
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you cant blame me, sure the killer was my son
but i didnt teach him to pull the trigger of the gun
its the killing on his tv screen
you cant blame me, its those images he seen

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: twboss] * 1
    #14336996 - 04/23/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

DIDNT read your entire post. I found 150mgs XR did not effect my LSD trip at all.

Mushrooms are my perfered psychedelic and im a bit worried it might effect it and deminished the effects. Because of this fear i only take 75mg every other night. And i dont take take seroquel 24 hours before the trip.

How ever i noticed seroquel didnt deminish LSDs effects at all. I took half a tab and tripped harder then i tbought i would.

If it does keep me from reaching those deep egoless states i am facinated with and reach through mushrooms i will never take seroquel again. I only take it for sleep.


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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: clemens] * 1
    #14337707 - 04/23/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yah, I was thinking of doing just a half 1/8 the first go around just because I haven't done them for so long. But then again, the very first time I shroomed, I did a whole 1/8 because I wanted to go "all out" and it was a really good trip. Anyway, since I'll be getting a 1/2 O, I guess I'll start with a half 1/8 and work my way up. This means that my last trip will be 5 grams, considering the extra half 1/8 from the first go around.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14338498 - 04/23/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i have been taking seroquel for a long while now, and i am now just starting to 600mg a day, before i was on 300 for a while, tried eating a half o shroomz, and nothing happened at all. I dont understand it v.v


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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: elementblazin] * 1
    #14338558 - 04/23/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Seroquel is known to cause diabetes.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: Dyslexicate] * 1
    #14339222 - 04/23/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Dyslexicate said:
Seroquel is known to cause diabetes.



It doesn't CAUSE diabetes directly. What it does is it can increase appetite, especially to sweet things. So, people end up eating lots of sweet stuff, gain a lot of weight, and then they get diabetes. I eat real healthy. No preservatives, always read the labels before I buy anything.

Anyway, does anyone who has any background in medicine know how many nights I should stop taking seroquel so I can shroom good?

Edited by occollegeboi (04/23/11 11:12 PM)

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14402215 - 05/04/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bump. Does anyone know how long I'd have to stop taking seroquel in order for the mushrooms to affect me? I'm now on 300 mg.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14403730 - 05/05/11 05:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what do you mean specifically - seroquel is causing ideation of suicide?

I have heard of people with treatment for "mental disorders" having thoughts of suicide, but I have never been convinced that any chemical agents involved generate ideation; more appropriately the person has the ideation, or is the place in which ideation occurs, and the ideas are connected to the person's assessment of life conditions.

My brother suicided while on SSRI and atavan, some documentation alludes to suicidal ideation in that combination - hello, he was on that combination because something was really wrong in his life - serious threats of jail etc. possibly other people on strong medicine like that also have big trouble around them. (I do wish he had talked to me before he left. - maybe he would not have gone...)

In my opinion, the drug influence does not create the idea, though it might add to some difficult conditions in life.
By all means correct that misapprehension.
So, if suicidal ideation is occurring, for any reason, I would not play in the psychedelic arena at all.


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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #14419421 - 05/08/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dang it, you people don't understand. I've come to terms with my suicidal ideation. If you read the SIDE EFFECTS of seroquel, SUICIDAL IDEATION is indeed listed as a side effect.

I used to do LSD and shrooms back when I was 21, 3 years ago, when I was more mentally UNstable and I ALWAYS had good trips. I don't think you can put a textbook definition of "oh if you have mental illness you shouldn't do psychedelics." bull shit. It's the same crap they throw around in an NA or AA meeting, putting a textbook definition on what an "addict" is to make you think you're an addict. It's all bullshit though. Once you get past the 3 days of withdrawals, the rest is all in the mind. EVERYTHING is all in the mind.

Can anyone give me a clear number of days that I would have to stop taking seroquel in order for the shrooms to have affect on me? I've made up my mind, I' WILL be taking shrooms for entheogenic purposes, I just need to know how long I should stop taking seroquel so that my trip is not diminished. I will start out with a half 1/8, then go up to an 1/8th.

Edited by occollegeboi (05/08/11 01:10 PM)

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14419811 - 05/08/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I really don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm going to say 3-5 days.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #14420600 - 05/08/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:


In my opinion, the drug influence does not create the idea, though it might add to some difficult conditions in life.
By all means correct that misapprehension.
So, if suicidal ideation is occurring, for any reason, I would not play in the psychedelic arena at all.



This.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14421256 - 05/08/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The half-life of Seroquel XR is 7-12hrs so you need about two to four days from time of dosing for it to be completely out of your system.(~57-98hours)

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: eeso] * 1
    #14421865 - 05/08/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

See I was pretty close and I have no idea what I am taaaaaalking about

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: drr] * 1
    #14422129 - 05/08/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks! I won't be shrooming until a couple months now. I have not even received my brf in the mail yet, they are taking 4EVER!! By then I will be weened down from the medication. it will take at least a month for me to grow mine.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #14608247 - 06/13/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okay guys, I've got an answer! I saw my doctor today, told her that I've been weaning myself down from 600mg and I'm currently on 150mg.

I feel less agitated and less suicidal, though I'm not sure if that's due to the lowered dose or just my increase in intospection in the last couple months. Either or, it looks like I never really needed 600mg to begin with.

I also told her that I plan to take a spiritual journey with mushrooms. She told me her concerns blah blah blah. She also said that she knows I probably made up my mind already to do. I asked her how long I'd need to stop taking seroquel for the shrooms to work, she said she's not going to condone it but at the same time she's not going to tell me not to do it either. I told her, "Well, I don't want to waste my money!" She told me: "Well, I WILL tell you that the seroquel will be out of your system within about 3 days. I said, "Ok, thanks!"

So there you go! 3 days!

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: occollegeboi] * 1
    #15144108 - 09/27/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No I can tell you from experience you will need more than 3 days. I was on 800 mg for most of my life. The half life has nothing to do with it it still affects your brain after months off of it. I'd say 3 weeks minimum and even then you still won't trip as hard. Damn people need to know what they're talking about before they reply.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: joeyv0615] * 1
    #15147816 - 09/28/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The correct answer is 3-5 days.


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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: AquaKet] * 1
    #15194303 - 10/08/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Uhmm... yeah, I ate about a gram and a half of cubensis, and got just high enough to be irritated and unable to sleep.  So, I decided to eat a 50mg seroquel to ease myself to sleep.  Shortly after everything started to flash with a greenish glow... anything that moved.  I realized I was getting very high on the shrooms all of a sudden and wanted nothing more than to come down.  I also kept trying to get people to "watch" me because I was sure I had made a serious mistake and wasn't going to make it through the night.

Seroquel definatley increased the affects of the mushrooms.

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Re: Shrooms and seroquel [Re: canabizzy] * 1
    #15220907 - 10/13/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I will be updating this soon. Keep posted.

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