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Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education?
    #15143405 - 09/27/11 08:31 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

If someone does not have any children should they be taxed in order to pay for the education of other peoples children?


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15143423 - 09/27/11 08:34 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Do you want the next generation who will take care of us when we are old to know what the fuck they are doing? Especially if you don't have kids, you may rely on others more..... You want them to be educated. We need doctors too, even if we don't have kids.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #15143433 - 09/27/11 08:36 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I am not saying people shouldn't be educated. I am asking if childless people should pay for other peoples kids to be educated. Childless people are a minority in the country.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15143451 - 09/27/11 08:38 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I say yes, because even if they don't have the children themselves, the social economy cannot support itself on a generation of idiots. The people without children are as much a part of the social network as those with children, and rely on people such as engineers, doctors, even cooks.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15143466 - 09/27/11 08:40 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

The vast majority of adults have children though. If childless people didn't pay towards public education that wouldn't have an effect on the quality of education. The amount of money would be negligible.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15143468 - 09/27/11 08:42 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think that's true.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15143473 - 09/27/11 08:43 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

It's all personal preference. I would personally prefer a voucher system that can be used in private educational establishments.

Also, remember that there are not separate taxes for each program the government maintains. There are just much more general taxes on income and property which are then divided up among the various programs. Not that they can come anywhere close to covering the cost atm.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15143494 - 09/27/11 08:46 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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If someone does not have any children should they be taxed in order to pay for the education of other peoples children?





I'd rather not. Rotten little rug rats.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: Icelander]
    #15143640 - 09/27/11 09:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I think it's more a matter of someone else who may not have had children did it for us, now we return the favor.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #15143916 - 09/27/11 10:09 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I never asked and so am not responsible for what someone else did.

But I'm retired and don't pay anymore so it's moot in my case.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: joshisstoned]
    #15143929 - 09/27/11 10:12 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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I think it's more a matter of someone else who may not have had children did it for us, now we return the favor.




But why should peoples money be forcibly taken from them to pay for services for someone elses kid?


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15144043 - 09/27/11 10:34 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Why should the government exist at all? Is there some absolute that exists saying government must exist? It is all just personal preferences.

However at this time in our country, I think we are all better off going the conservative fiscal route except those who are old enough that it doesn't matter because they will be dead before any huge financial collapse happens.

Since the 20s, entitlements have been growing and I would argue that they were good for many of the people receiving them. Even though they are fiscally unsound, we were able to easily live on credit for a long time, and I understand why many would vote in the way they did. If the services benefited me at the time I know I would have supported them even if it meant some potential economic woes from people who have yet to exist that I will never know.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: 4896744]
    #15144081 - 09/27/11 10:44 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I would prefer a system where everyone used their own money to pay for their own child's education.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: 4896744]
    #15144541 - 09/28/11 12:10 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

except those who are old enough that it doesn't matter because they will be dead before any huge financial collapse happens.

That's me:haha:


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: lines]
    #15145749 - 09/28/11 08:30 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

> If someone does not have any children should they be taxed in order to pay for the education of other peoples children?

At the federal level, no.  The federal government has no business spending any taxpayer money on education.  At the state level, it should be up to the individual states to decide how they wish to fund their state educational system.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: Seuss]
    #15145756 - 09/28/11 08:32 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Shouldn't have rug rats if you can't afford the project.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: Icelander]
    #15145785 - 09/28/11 08:45 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Shouldn't have rug rats if you can't afford the project.




That statement, as accurate and easy to understand as it is, will be lost on most people.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #15145822 - 09/28/11 09:04 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I think it is in a country's best interest for all people to pay for the education of all children.  If public education was removed and everyone had to pay specifically for their own child's education, then children with richer parents would get a better education on average.  This would reinforce the division among the rich and poor classes.

Personally, I hope the rich keep taking away things that give the poor hope that their children might one day have a better life.  It brings us closer and closer to true revolution.


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: MelloRed]
    #15145835 - 09/28/11 09:12 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah lets pay for the poor and downtrodden to spawn irresponsibly.  Then there will be more minimum wage slaves to serve the rich. :thumbup:


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Re: Should Childless People Pay Taxes To Public Education? [Re: MelloRed]
    #15145851 - 09/28/11 09:21 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

> If public education was removed and everyone had to pay specifically for their own child's education, then children with richer parents would get a better education on average.

If they are your kids, why should I care if they get a good education or not?  Since you want to play fair, perhaps we should make it illegal for poor people to have children they can't afford?


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