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shLong
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Possible Datura patch (ID)..????
#15142703 - 09/27/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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EDIT: Feel free to move thread if this isn't the correct forum.
I have no desire to try it (I think), but I found a whole shitload of plants. I was wondering if anybody can ID them (for educational purposes) for me. And while were on topic, has anybody tried it? Photos taken in Northern Illinois. Pics can be blown up huge for fine detail in bottom right corner of expanded pic (for the noobs)
Edited by shLong (09/27/11 05:44 PM)
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Artnotwar
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15142806 - 09/27/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably would have been better to post this in the ethnobotanical garden, but it looks like datura to me. I suggest turning the other way, and keep walking. Not a drug I would want to try again. It can also kill you, in more ways than one.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: Artnotwar]
#15142826 - 09/27/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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KILL IT WITH FIRE
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: scifipirate]
#15142834 - 09/27/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: Connoisseur]
#15142960 - 09/27/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I remember seeing a 20/20 documentary on it in like 1997 or so. Even then, it sounded awful...and dangerous.
Ive never stumbled upon this before, so I figured I'd consult the Shroomery experts on this one.
I was thinking of a giveaway, but that has 'Bad News Bears' written all over it.
I should have put this in EG (mod?)
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scifipirate
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15142973 - 09/27/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chop it up and sell it to high schoolers
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: scifipirate]
#15142984 - 09/27/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont know any high schoolers
I could always collect a bunch and use it as a "micky" for someone I dont like.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15143120 - 09/27/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Please don't even do that to your worst enemy.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15143122 - 09/27/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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that be datura.
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: Artnotwar]
#15143138 - 09/27/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
intense_cutn said: Please don't even do that to your worst enemy.
I am my own worst enemy
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? (moved) [Re: shLong]
#15143364 - 09/27/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.
Reason: This is a better location for plant ID.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15143369 - 09/27/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- Ethno-Garden: My seeds and Herbs My Contests/Give-aways Get on it! WE DID IT for kratom I have my rating privileges back, BITCHES
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: NoxADVANCED]
#15143462 - 09/27/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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NoxADVANCED said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium
I wasn't sure how many thorny seed pod plants there were. I did refer there, but wasn't convinced. Plus, I kinda wanted to share my find.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15143515 - 09/27/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Everything I've read about this is bad, can last days and apparently not pleasant and its very common to end up in hospital due to injuries, also you completely lose the ability to differentiate between hallucinations and reality. Not advisable
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15143517 - 09/27/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry didnt mean t come along as harsh. was just posting it up, everyone else has told u what i wanna.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: NoxADVANCED]
#15143902 - 09/27/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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no worries, bud
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15145483 - 09/28/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah its Datura stramonium. We have them everywhere round here
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: scifipirate]
#15145499 - 09/28/11 03:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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scifipirate said: KILL IT WITH FIRE
^^^This, but don't breathe in any of the fumes. At the very least, give it a very wide berth. I smoked some of that shit accidentally once - worst physical experience of my life, top 10 worst overall. That plant does not like people.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: Locky]
#15145507 - 09/28/11 03:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know them all too well,Spent 8 hrs walking/driving around a farm intown chipping them,castor oil, devils claw and bathurst burrs. Thats how and when i found Pan. Cyan patch on side of a hill.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15147591 - 09/28/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes that is Datura, and NO, you do not want to try it.
Jimson weed and other Nightshades are common orchard-weeds around here.
Deer wont even touch them, that should tell you something.
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: rev0kadavur]
#15147747 - 09/28/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Even though this sounds crazy, this looked like it was a cultivated patch.
It was really hidden (relatively) and it was only in the corner of the cornfield. As if someone destroyed 20 square feet of corn and spread the seeds. Notice (if you can) that there isn't any corn growing within the patch. Perhaps it starved the corn out before it had a chance, but the way it was perfectly cornered in the field made it look like there should have been 30 cannabis plants there instead.
I cant imagine somebody growing Datura instead of some other, more productive plant, but shit was weird, even before I noticed what it was.
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15147771 - 09/28/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, and there weren't any flowers like I see in most of the photos. Perhaps they flower earlier in the season or something.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15147998 - 09/28/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Once the pods fully develop the flowers are usually done and gone. as the pods dry out they will pop open and disperse the seeds, sometimes hundreds of them per pod. When the fields where they've been growing get disked, it thoroughly spreads the seeds and normally causes huge patches of datura. Knowing how things go in the country lands, there could be a reason this corner of the field can't be used. It could be a leech field for a septic system, it could be a spot where water collects or an underground spring, which would make the ground unworkable for most tractors and not a good place for plants unless they are water loving, like willows. If it is a spring, there could also be a local water ordinance preventing any possible disturbances of the spring. There could be many reasons for this, but I highly doubt they are intentionally growing jimson weed. Im actually surprised they are not gigantic plants being next to all the nitrogen the corn is getting. Jimson weed seeds regularly make there way into various feed-grains that are collected out of fields such as corn, but only in small amounts. Its more of a nuisance than anything else. Personally, I enjoy the twisty flowers and spike balls. Ive learned to co-exist with jimson weed.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15148015 - 09/28/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Daturas are pretty common as an ornamental in my area, I think the ones I see are D. meteloides but stramonium turns up too. Brugmansias are quite a bit rarer but you do see them. Interesting that someone would grow them in a patch hidden away somewhere like this, like you would expect to see with pot.
I wouldn't say my experienced with Datura and Brugmansia were bad (smoking small amounts of leaves or flowers for a borderline buzz) but I would never touch it today or recommend it to anyone except as an interesting ornamental for someone with no kids or pets. There are some neat stories about Datura in Carlos Castenada's books.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: shLong]
#15148027 - 09/28/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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This time of year this should be no flowers left, missed em by about a month. Plants & pods are still green, seeds are under-developed.
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: psi]
#15148064 - 09/28/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Brugmansias are the only ones sold for its looks around here, very pretty tree! Almost gave in to trying the brugmansias, glad I didn't waste my mental state on that. I use to see meteloides grown in landscaping, but now I only find it as a weed in my veggie garden! Stramonium thrives around here, period. There are easily Thousands of them in my orchard right now.
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Edited by rev0kadavur (09/28/11 04:35 PM)
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shLong
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Re: Possible Datura patch (ID)..???? [Re: rev0kadavur]
#15148433 - 09/28/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info, rev
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