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Re: I smoke math [Re: mellowparty]
    #15127811 - 09/24/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Its just an educated guess but I'd say that HPBCD would increase the bioavailability of 2C-P through the gastrointestinal tract. The compound is looks pretty hydrophobic to be efficiently absorbed by your internal surface and the HPBCD acts like a little basket to aid in this absorption. I know people use it those new NBomes so I though it may be relevant to 2C-P as well :shrug:

I don't know about the BBB but it sounds legit in terms of passing your mucosal surface.



Is this something you would feel safe trying on yourself?



It goes a bit like that: without the solubilizer you get 30% bioavailability, with HPBCD you get like 66% bioavailability (these are in no way accurate, just o illustrate my point). So in other words you'd need less drugs to get to the same state of mind.

I love to experiment. It doesn't matter who the test subject is, I'm always down for science :awehigh:

BTW next time you have a headache try some kind of a fast acting psychedelic and :pm: if it helped with your headache. My shroomery buddy said that 0.2g of dried cubes were magic for his migraine.


I have heard quite a few things about psychedelics curing various types of headaches. LSD has been proven to clear up cluster headaches like a charm.


How much HPBCD do you suggest?


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15127828 - 09/24/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I have no experience with it myself. I learned about it from this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15095759/fpart/1

This guys seems to know his shit very well. I'd recommend to ask him for the details.


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Re: I smoke math [Re: mellowparty]
    #15127877 - 09/24/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

micrograms :sad:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15127893 - 09/24/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, the NBOMe's are taken in µgs.  2C-P isn't.  So you're not going to need a crazy scale or anything.

But considering the solubility I had, I don't know that a detergent will make a difference.  But it's worth a try.


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Re: I smoke math [Re: BothHands]
    #15127903 - 09/24/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, the NBOMe's are taken in µgs.  2C-P isn't.  So you're not going to need a crazy scale or anything.

But considering the solubility I had, I don't know that a detergent will make a difference.  But it's worth a try.



how am I to measure micrograms of something without a crazy scale :shrug:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15127991 - 09/24/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Serial dilutions :yesnod:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: mellowparty]
    #15128011 - 09/24/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

sighhh :huxleyfacepalm:

2c-p is so cheap that I dont think its worth it :lol:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15128904 - 09/24/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Well, the NBOMe's are taken in µgs.  2C-P isn't.  So you're not going to need a crazy scale or anything.

But considering the solubility I had, I don't know that a detergent will make a difference.  But it's worth a try.



how am I to measure micrograms of something without a crazy scale :shrug:




Really dude? :lol:

Try reading it again.  NBOMes are taken in micorgram dosages.  Even without the detergent.

2C-P is never dosed in micorgrams.  Ever.

You're dosing 2C-P.  You're not doing NBOMe.  What's the problem?


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Re: I smoke math [Re: BothHands]
    #15128910 - 09/24/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm really confused. I thought mellow was suggesting I dose some HPBCD along with the 2c-p to increase the bioavailiability of 2c-p. The HPBCD is measured in micrograms. What are you talking about?


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15128921 - 09/24/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think you two could possibly be more obscure and confusing in the way you're talking about chemistry. It's like you're going out of your way to make shit more complicated than it has to be. Just tell me what the fuck you're talking about lol


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Re: I smoke math [Re: morrowasted]
    #15128934 - 09/24/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

OOh, I see where you got that.  You misread though.  It says "350ug of HPBCD complexed 25i-nbome."  That means 350µg of 25I-NBOMe in a solvent containing HPBCD.  I'm drunk as fuck, so I could be mistaken, but I don't think so.  If you read the title of the thread, it says "200mg mescaline hcl + 350ug (mics) 25i-nbome", so obviously the NBOMe is what the 350µg is referring to.

And since 500-1000µg of 25I-NBOMe is a normal dose, 350µg is a perfect dose to take WITH mescaline.


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Re: I smoke math [Re: BothHands]
    #15128938 - 09/24/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I see


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Re: I smoke math [Re: BothHands]
    #15129061 - 09/24/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

BothHands is a clever cookie :sun:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15130230 - 09/25/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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BothHands is a clever cookie :sun:



sexy cookie as well :fonda:

BTW how was that trip morrowasted?


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Re: I smoke math [Re: mellowparty]
    #15130328 - 09/25/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

unfortunately a lesbian cookie as well :foreveralone:, hahah


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Re: I smoke math [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15130351 - 09/25/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

mmm lesbian cookies :homerdrool:


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Re: I smoke math [Re: mellowparty]
    #15130364 - 09/25/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Math thread * x = lesbian cookies

solve for x


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Re: I smoke math [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #15130389 - 09/25/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

X= :awehigh: mellowparty*(BothHands+Dosileflynn mentioning cookies)


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Re: I smoke math [Re: Cj-B]
    #15132120 - 09/25/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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cross multiply denominators,

(3x 7)(4)    (7)(X 25) = 12

bring 12 over

(12x 28 7x 175/28) - (12/1)=0

since first term is over 28, multiply 12 by 28

You can get it from there

19x=336-203
x=133/19
x=7




I don't think cross multiplying is what you would want to call it. Rather, this goes back that you can multiply both sides by 1 in a different way. You can multiply both sides by 7/7 and then 4/4 to finish out the rest of the problem.


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Re: I smoke math [Re: yutaka]
    #15132170 - 09/25/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So why did you ask Im confused?


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