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OfflineKonyap


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Petition to Reschedule cannabis into schedule 3 Topic
    #15125239 - 09/23/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions

    Marijuana should be rescheduled on the DEA's Controlled Substance List as a Schedule 3 Controlled Substance, because we feel it has medicinal properties.  Marijuana is a safe and effective treatment for many debilitating medical conditions and should be a medicine that doctors are allowed to prescribe.

    Independent peer reviewed studies have shown that cannabis is an effective treatment for Epilepsy, Glaucoma, AIDS wasting, Neuropathic pain, spasticity associated with Multiple Sclerosis, Hepatitis C, Crohn's Disease, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Stroke, Withdrawl induced brain damage, Nausea, PTSD and is an MSRA antibiotic.  In addition, multiple studies have shown that cannabis can halt cancer growth.  Cannabis is an effective and healthier alternative to many of the prescription medications which are currently being used to treat these conditions.

    New research indicates that mothers who use cannabis while pregnant have babies with higher birth weight and less infant moralities than mothers who abstain from cannabis.  Several studies have shown that the use of cannabis does not have a significant negative impact on road safety, and that it does not cause long term cognitive impairment or chemical dependence.

    Many States and even the Israeli government have recognized the legitimate uses of Medicinal Cannabis and we feel it is in the best interest of the United States government to recognize this, so that even more work can be done to research what else Marijuana could accomplish in the medical feild, as well as provide convenient relief to the people that need it.


working on this
from this
http://cannabisstudies.wordpress.com/cannabisstudies/



Edited by Konyap (09/25/11 07:26 PM)


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Invisibledtowntoker
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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #15125387 - 09/23/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Plants are not, by nature or any other standard, harmless.  What a crock of shit.


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15125650 - 09/24/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you really hate weed i guess then LOL


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #15126522 - 09/24/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No he hates ignorance.


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Icelander]
    #15128156 - 09/24/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

dude i used to have a plant in my house that had a white filling inside i later found out that if you ate the leaf you would die and there was no cure

whats the big deal?


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap]
    #15129135 - 09/24/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The big deal is that you are making ignorant statements about plants.

Not that it's a very big deal. Lots of folk do that.


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap]
    #15129312 - 09/24/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
Plants are by their nature are harmless.





I don't know many people who consider poison ivy harmless.  Some people have to go to the hospital if they barely brush against it.

My little brother got it so bad once that he required anabolic steroid injections to save his life.  This was from playing in the woods at night.

Mala mujer makes poison ivy look tame by comparison.

Oleander is a shrub that kills many people a year, stops their heart.  It is very common along highways and is otherwise a great plant - Flowers a lot, doesn't require much water.  Its in a lot of yards where children often eat a bit.

Some plants are so toxic that if you chew a little bit for a second and spit it out, it creates painful and long lasting blisters on your tongue.  By contrast, there are no mushrooms that are so toxic that it is dangerous to taste a bit and spit it out.

There is a plant in Mexico that has the same toxins as poison ivy, but it is on the tip of large thorns.  If you grab one accidentally, it takes years for the wounds to heal.  Often they never really do.

But by far the most dangerous plant in the world is Tobacco, responsible for the deaths of 435,000 people per year in the USA alone.  By contrast, all legal and illegal drugs combined kill less than 40,000 people per year.

The castor plant contains ricin, a toxin so potent that only a couple milligrams kills a person.  There is no known antidote.

I know of several more examples of dangerous plants and I will list them here if you can convince me that the above plants, by their nature are harmless.

Regarding your recent petition on whitehouse.gov:

https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/reschedule-cannabis/Yh6C8dLj?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl (or maybe a better link is http://wh.gov/4it)

Please check the grammar of your writing before you submit to a government website for public consumption.  Your petition is worded in such a manner that it makes the comsumers of marijuana look stupid.    Now you and I both know that the consumers of the cannabis plant are the smartest, most effectual, and most hardworking group of people in the world.  Lets make sure that the writing we put up on whitehouse.gov reflects that. 


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15129440 - 09/24/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
blah blah blah blah blah 




half a million tho that is quite something


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap]
    #15129565 - 09/24/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

http://wh.gov/431

this is the latest link anyway


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #15129656 - 09/24/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:
blah blah blah blah blah 




half a million tho that is quite something





Piss of.  Ignorance is ugly.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Konyap]
    #15129770 - 09/24/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
http://wh.gov/431

this is the latest link anyway




That isn't much different than the last version.  I am honestly not an expert on English but I will point out the things I would fix. 

You might want to post the proposed text here since some of the posters in in this forum know English pretty well.

You know how stoners use quiet voices, weak phrases and don't often stand up for themselves?  That is exactly how you don't want to come across.  Your writing style should imply that you have researched the issues and have a strong grasp of the English language.

Are you trying to get marijuana moved into a different schedule, or out of the scheduling system entirely?  Different arguments are required depending on which direction you want to go.  Your current revision suggests that you want it to be a prescription medication, but this thread suggests that you want it to be legal for anyone to grow in their yard.  Both outcomes are positive but you need to pick one.  I'll assume you want medical marijuana for now since that is much more realistic and is an easier argument to make.  If you want full legalization you'll want to rely more on freedom and criminal justice based arguments.

Quote:

We believe marijuana should be rescheduled on the DEA's controlled substance list, because we believe it has medicinal properties.




The comma should be removed because it is not needed and extra commas are awkward and weaken the sentence.  "We believe" is a weak phrase.

Quote:

Marijuana smoking is an effective way to receive treatment, due to the receptiveness and we feel as such, that it is at the user's discretion how they use it.




That sentence is very awkward as well, and the last bit doesn't fit very well with the first part.  You don't want to call attention to smoking as there are healthier ways to ingest it, and you don't want to call attention to the fact that people should be able to use medical marijauana in any way they think is cool at the time.  Even though they should be able to.  "The receptiveness" is a weak phrase.

I would say "Marijuana is a safe and effective treatment for many debilitating medical conditions
and should be a medicine that doctors are allowed to prescribe."

Quote:

Cannabis has been known to have a variety of benefits including treating Epilepsy, Chron's Disease, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Stroke, Nausea, Suppress' HIV, halts Cancer growth, is an MSRA antibiotic and its long term cognitive effects are reversible.




"Independant peer reviewed studies have shown that cannabis is an effective treatment for Epilepsy, Chron's Disease, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Stroke, Nausea, Suppress' HIV, and is an MSRA antibiotic.  In addition, multiple studies have shown that cannabis can halt cancer growth.  Cannabis is an effective and healthier alternative to many of the prescription medications which are currently being used to treat these conditions."

Quote:

It is also gives pregnant mothers a better chance of a live birth, isn't effectual on driving capabilities and forms no chemical dependence.




Drugs+pregnancy is a touchy subject and you probably should not mention cannabis and pregnancy in the same sentence.  Effectual is misused, it means effective.

"New research indicates that mothers who use cannabis while pregnant have babies with higher birth weight and less miscarriages than mothers who abstain from cannabis." 

"Several studies have shown that the use of cannabis does not have a significant negative impact road safety, and that it does not cause long term cognitive impairment or chemical dependence."


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Re: We should draw up a petition to liberate plant cultivation. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15130275 - 09/25/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

.up top


Edited by Konyap (09/25/11 01:47 AM)


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Re: Petition to Reschedule cannabis into schedule 3 Topic (moved) [Re: Konyap]
    #15131305 - 09/25/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This thread was moved from Political Discussion.

Reason:
This is a perfect example of a topic belonging in the "Drug Policy Reform" forum


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Re: Petition to Reschedule cannabis into schedule 3 Topic (moved) [Re: Phred]
    #15134083 - 09/25/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

the best i could do

http://wh.gov/44v


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