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OfflineDaniel420

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Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) *DELETED*
    #14428488 - 05/10/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: Found my answer, Thanks.


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OfflineDaniel420

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428516 - 05/10/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Alright, Thanks everybody.

Edited by Daniel420 (05/10/11 08:45 AM)

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428539 - 05/10/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

whats ED?

i wouldnt have thought you'd be screwed for life, dan. lay off the drugs. all of them. prescribed and not.

prolly worth a trip to the doctors regarding the hearing thing. it may be something else. infact its prolly worth talking to him about the whole issue.
i think if anyone here tries to advise you it will all be 'best guess' as no-one can properly diagnose without an examination.

what do you think, dan?

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428544 - 05/10/11 07:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't the slightest clue what advice anyone could possibly give you based on your post...


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428566 - 05/10/11 07:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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All it really did was give me ED




erectile dysfunction? Yeah I've heard this is common on antipsychotics, personally I think antipsychotics are bad news even for many people with mental illness. I'm not saying they don't have their place, just that they're over prescribed and are more often than not used to control people rather than help people.

But enough of that.

Unfortunately I don't really know much about your mental state so I can't make any experienced recommendations. My advice would be to just go with the flow and take whatever feels right.

I'm not going to say "take shrooms and they'll fix everything", but I do recommend delving into psychedelics. Just take it slow. Don't jump straight into a heroic dose. Having super strong trip without preparation could exacerbate any psychosis and leave you feeling worse off.  Work your way up from small doses of shrooms and see how you go. At worst you'll just trip. At most they may even help you to feel better down the road.

If you're getting bad vibes from the weed or liquor then just lay off it. In fact lay of alcohol altogether  - it's nasty for your brain  :puke:

If you find that you're mental state starts to deteriorate and it's really affecting you than you best lay off all the drugs and see a doctor. But for now you seem okay, so take it one step at a time and see how it works out :grin:

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: LSDylan]
    #14428579 - 05/10/11 07:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd get back on the schizo drugs. Lots of people who have this problem think they don't. There is a reason you were given the prescription, though the problem is if you ARE you won't listen to this advice anyways...

When you get bad trips on everything and your mind feels fried, take a break.

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428598 - 05/10/11 07:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Most people who claim to take these drugs for medicinal purposes are probably batshit insane from the viewpoint of western consensus reality.  I don't know where you live, but unless you are an Amazonian jungle dweller, I'd shitcan the purported medicinal claims about these drugs.  I don't know if conventional medicine can help you or if qualified doctors can make you better, but I'd have more faith in them than ingesting psychedelic drugs in the hopes that they can somehow stitch your mental well being back  together.  I hope you find your peace.


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: LSDylan]
    #14428618 - 05/10/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks again.

Edited by Daniel420 (05/10/11 08:45 AM)

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428648 - 05/10/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Daniel420 said:

Idk, I feel like my world kinda reset after taking drugs and realizing alot more of the world. Now I feel like I am mentaly retarded and I need to re learn everything.




You probably didn't learn or realize anything about the world that you didn't already know.  Don't give these wacky drugs that type of credit because it reinforces the delusion that they are some type of benign medicinal tool.  Look at what the ultimate consequences are for your experiences with them.  They added to your mental anguish, confusion, and despair.  I don't know how you were before psychedelics, but although they can be fun, they scramble your eggs and your eggs don't need anymore scrambling.


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OfflineDaniel420

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428649 - 05/10/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.

Edited by Daniel420 (05/10/11 08:46 AM)

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Daniel420]
    #14428712 - 05/10/11 08:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mate... I agree with the above

Stop all drugs and alcohol... Find a hobby... Exercize

See your doctor.... No way for any of us to know what is temporary or permanent, but the fact is you can probably stop it from getting worse at least.... Take care of yourself...

Peace


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: HarryL]
    #14428837 - 05/10/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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HarryL said:
Mate... I agree with the above

Stop all drugs and alcohol... Find a hobby... Exercize

See your doctor.... No way for any of us to know what is temporary or permanent, but the fact is you can probably stop it from getting worse at least.... Take care of yourself...

Peace



:whathesaid:
What exactly are you self medicating with weed for? Although it can be beneficial for some, it isn't for everyone (including yourself from what I can tell). It will only make you less motivated and put you in a deeper rut than you are already in!

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) *DELETED* [Re: Daniel420]
    #15124590 - 09/23/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well I am doing amazing everyone! My name is completely cleared and I am smarter then ever. Thanks for everyones input on my situation, after smoking 4-5grams of medical marijuana a week I my head is clearer then my parents. Now I can put up with their shit and they get pissed because I am so calm and understanding.

SHROOoooOOOO∞∞0000000ooooOOooOo()))()()()()mmmmmmsssss

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) *DELETED* [Re: Daniel420]
    #15124594 - 09/23/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ill get back to you guys later, im gonna go smoke some pot and post tomorrow or somethin:wink:

Edited by Daniel420 (09/23/11 07:58 PM)

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) *DELETED* [Re: Daniel420]
    #15124640 - 09/23/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I diddn't take shroom yet, but it feels like the trip finally ended.
I think the ecstacy tripped the shrooms back up, i remember sometimes I would get flashbacks of smelling the baggy of shrooms.

Might do shrooms in a year or two. Without hard liquor this time.


Sorry for bumping like a noob... peace out every1

Edited by Daniel420 (09/23/11 08:00 PM)

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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: joemolloy]
    #15124767 - 09/23/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
Most people who claim to take these drugs for medicinal purposes are probably batshit insane from the viewpoint of western consensus reality.  I don't know where you live, but unless you are an Amazonian jungle dweller, I'd shitcan the purported medicinal claims about these drugs.  I don't know if conventional medicine can help you or if qualified doctors can make you better, but I'd have more faith in them than ingesting psychedelic drugs in the hopes that they can somehow stitch your mental well being back  together.  I hope you find your peace.




Psychedelics have proven greatly beneficial in the treatment of OCD, alcoholism, and various forms of depression. Ask any OCD sufferer who is experienced with psychedelics and they will tell you that psychedelics are the magic bullet.

I'm not even getting started on migraines and cluster headaches. Or PTSD.

You never answered the question I posed you the other day, by the way, joemolloy. Do you perhaps not have an answer?


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15124810 - 09/23/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh, sorry, I had a three day ban from TPE.  (For making fun of the rapper in the special high school who was telling us how famous he was going to be.)

I think the vast majority of users take these drugs for hedonistic purposes and rationalize and justify their usage by blindly swallowing psychedelic myth and lore from websites like this.  I believe these drugs scramble shit up, add some euphoria, peace, and love, and then gently place you back down on earth.  The price for the trip is usually a slow and subtle drift into a strange type of mysticism, spirituality, and philosophical pretzel bending.  Ultimately I feel the promise of psychedelic healing is overblown and their potential for habitual and obsessive use understated.


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: joemolloy] * 1
    #15124826 - 09/23/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with you overall, but I think you're overstating the risks and understating the benefits. I think it would be more responsible to advertise the dangers of psychedelics in a more moderate way. People who can tell (for better or for worse) that there legitimately is more to psychedelics than addiction and escape would also take you more seriously.

:2cents:


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15124859 - 09/23/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Tchan, I think that if cocaine had the years of propaganda, the usual suspects of PHDs, and the good music touting its benefits, it would be just as useful to people as psychedelics.  And that's the heart of my argument, these drugs are basically useless in any functional or utilitarian sense and any benefits derived are in spite of their use, not caused by it.  Its an extreme position with little space for wiggle room, but that's my stubborn conclusion.


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Re: Taking a psycedelic for medicinal purposes(?) [Re: joemolloy]
    #15124911 - 09/23/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Cocaine fared better than psychedelics in the PR battle. Cocaine-like stimulants are prescribed for medical problems today. Cocaine itself is not used, because we have found many longer-lasting drugs with the same basic pharmacology (methylphenidate is the prime suspect, though amphetamines also have similar effects to cocaine).

The same type of pharmacological maturation has not taken place with psychedelics.

I disagree with you pretty strongly, but I still understand where you're coming from. I hope you mellow out someday because I feel like you go overboard combating the excessive optimism a lot of people have about psychedelics. :shrug:


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