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Most Infamous Right-Winger
#1511332 - 05/01/03 12:23 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thought I'd do this to supplement the other poll.
I probably left out a few people, and maybe I mislabeled a few, but I hope it's complete enough.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: silversoul7]
#1511340 - 05/01/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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i was going to do this tommarrow...glad you did it first.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: silversoul7]
#1511485 - 05/01/03 01:34 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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who gave the 2 votes for pinksharkmark? he's one of the brightest minds here....
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: ]
#1511490 - 05/01/03 01:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who said this had anything to do with intelligence? If I said DUMBEST right-winger, I would've voted for JohnnyRespect, rather than luvdemshrooms.
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Edited by silversoul7 (05/01/03 01:37 PM)
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: ]
#1511495 - 05/01/03 01:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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who gave the 2 votes for pinksharkmark? he's one of the brightest minds here....
I voted for him because of his uncanny ability to destroy most liberal arguments (and some conservative ones as well).
-------------------- "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: silversoul7]
#1511504 - 05/01/03 01:40 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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i dunno... i had just suspected that in this "flame-free" zone of a political forum, "infamous" was to mean something along those lines.... i guess not...
Edited by mushmaster (05/01/03 01:41 PM)
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: silversoul7]
#1511590 - 05/01/03 02:11 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry, but I ain't no right-winger. Neither is Evolving, or wingnutx and probably some others.
I won't speak for the rest, but I am a Laissez-faire Capitalist.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: Phred]
#1511607 - 05/01/03 02:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't consider myself left wing either..but that's how I am percieved. Having said that, Call yourself what you will...but you are perceived as Right wing.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: z@z.com]
#1511611 - 05/01/03 02:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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who gave the 2 votes for pinksharkmark? he's one of the brightest minds here....
I voted for him because of his uncanny ability to destroy most liberal arguments (and some conservative ones as well).
Well nobody said you had to have intelligence to vote for the poll either. You do know what infamous means don't you? It's not a good thing.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: Rono]
#1511619 - 05/01/03 02:20 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The left wing and the right wing are appendages of the same beast, the statist vulture. What's frightening about this particular species is that it feeds on the living and it's appetite is never satisfied.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
#1511622 - 05/01/03 02:20 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was thinking about how those who oppose him may feel about it. That and I have slept like 4 hours in three days. Plus I'm not all that bright anyway.
-------------------- "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
#1511623 - 05/01/03 02:21 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do know what infamous means don't you? It's not a good thing
It depends on who is saying it. If a libbie says it to me i consider that a compliment. I think this thread is being taken too seriously, it's not like any of the "who's more infamous" is equating anyone to being hitler or Stalin...some of you people need to relax.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: Innvertigo]
#1511630 - 05/01/03 02:24 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do know what infamous means don't you? It's not a good thing
It depends on who is saying it. If a libbie says it to me i consider that a compliment. I think this thread is being taken too seriously, it's not like any of the "who's more infamous" is equating anyone to being hitler or Stalin...some of you people need to relax.
No. You are wrong. It is so that we can identify and mock those who are different.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: Phred]
#1511635 - 05/01/03 02:26 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right and left wing describe free verus planned economies, or capitalists versus socialists. Libertarians are generally considered right wing. Only after that were cultural conservatives lumped into the right category, diluting it's meaning.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: wingnutx]
#1511647 - 05/01/03 02:30 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah. So those who hold individual rights to be the highest of all things, and believe in the miminal possible amount of government necessary to get by, are Righties?
Well, by THAT definition, then I am indeed a Rightie. As were virtually all of the major Enlightenment political thinkers and all the Founding Fathers.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
#1511650 - 05/01/03 02:31 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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No. You are wrong. It is so that we can identify and mock those who are different.
oh.....now i'm pissed
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: wingnutx]
#1511668 - 05/01/03 02:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right and left wing describe free verus planned economies, or capitalists versus socialists....
I think you're leaving out controls on victimless behavior versus the subsidizing of irresponsible (albeit victimless) behavior. I do not perceive the political spectrum as merely running along lines of left and right, I find this too simple to explain a variety of political beliefs.
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Edited by Evolving (05/01/03 02:38 PM)
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: silversoul7]
#1511729 - 05/01/03 03:05 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm just pissed I didn't make it on the list.
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: Evolving]
#1511731 - 05/01/03 03:06 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's why you really need an X/Y chart instead of just left/right.
There are plenty of statists on either side.
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Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort. - R. A. Heinlein
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Re: Most Infamous Right-Winger [Re: wingnutx]
#1511736 - 05/01/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's one of my favorite Heinlein quotes.
-------------------- To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.' Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence. Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains. Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.
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