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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15116520 - 09/22/11 12:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

more updates as these babies progress.

Bag 2- already made a partial harvest


Bag 3-runt of the family


Bag 4- newest of the final 2 bags


Bag 5-


Recovered tray-i thought they were goners-once placed into the enclosed room with the others they revived-2nd tray is still very slow, but she may yet produce some pins


enjoy,--taste test coming soon-
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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15128730 - 09/24/11 07:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

still growing like weeds--i really need a better humidity control. finally, my last tray is actually showing s/o pins. it's about time. they were left in the dust. like i said earlier, it was my fault- i messed up the growth cycle by letting them dry out too much.

bag 4


bag 5


tray 1


tray 2


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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15131287 - 09/25/11 11:43 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I want to experiment with these to see if cutting smaller fruits lets the bigger get bigger.

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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: lipa]
    #15147088 - 09/28/11 03:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

these are the latest and greatest picts.
everything is still producing except bag one which i cased last week. it should be ready by the end of this week with new pins.

Bag 2


Bag 5


Tray 1-the very slowest of the Mohicans


Tray 2


temps still 90-100 in daytime-80's at night--everything still parked in plastic tub FCs inside my plastic tent. It is the only way for me to maintain any semblance of high humidity. these guys do not like to dry out much.

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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15158839 - 09/30/11 06:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

well guys-this grow has done well and shown me some things i needed to know about Tricholoma crassum.

1. One of those things is: this mushroom does not have to be grown on wood as I was earlier informed-to reinforce, I used Spanish cane, Arundo donax to achieve this without supplementation except gypsum.
2. It has a significant potential range of temps for growing at different periods in its life cycle, mostly on the high side. 80-100°F
3. It really likes very high humidity at all phases of growth.
4. Watering the casing and fruit during fruit maturation is acceptable-just provide drainage holes.
5. You will probably lose all your first set of pins after the first harvest if everything matures on time-nothing should remain for the 2nd harvest for the most part-this is similar for Calocybe indica as well.

Now here's the last of the pictures I will post for this grow-I appreciate everyone visiting and talking.

Bag 5
Now Here's the Best of the Bunch!! I made tissue transfers from this bunch as this was the best symmetry and height achieved by any of the bags or trays. This phenotype looked good.



Big un! from bag 2



thanks all,
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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15159971 - 09/30/11 10:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you H.

I have saved that data to my data folder.

Take care,

JD

P.S. Those look delicious!


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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: Javadog]
    #15160899 - 10/01/11 03:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Houdinihar,
Congrats on growing these, the grow was really wonderful. Can you share something about its taste? Does it resembles to Calocybe Indica? It looks very close relative of Calocybe:smile:
Cheers,
Vishal.


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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: vishal779]
    #15171705 - 10/03/11 02:59 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

quote]vishal779 said:
Hi Houdinihar,
Congrats on growing these, the grow was really wonderful. Can you share something about its taste? Does it resembles to Calocybe Indica? It looks very close relative of Calocybe:)
Cheers,
Vishal.




Hi Vishal,

Thanks for the compliments. The taste can go from bitter in the older browner mushrooms to very palatable in the almost mature specimens. The ones I picked from bag 5 above just after i took the picture are very good. If you wait too long, like i did earlier to get better prints, then you will encounter a significant bitterness.
of course, that made me think of a potential for beta glucans present, but i have no data on that and would have to find a reference lab to actually analyze that for me.

so many things about this mushroom resemble the Calocybe indica a lot. it has practically the same color and almost identical growth characteristics--, casing and pinning follow almost the exact same times and methods--i did not try the wheat straw substrate yet. I was so into proving that Arundo donax would be a potentially good substrate that i spent more time with it. i still have quite a few pounds of grain spawn of the Tricholoma crassum left and my temps are still warm enough that i might attempt another grow on straw, even though all the sources and people i have spoken with say this is a wood-lover. we'll see.
i already have quite a few bags of my Calocybe indica cased and some are at the stage of pin production. most of these are using Arundo donax as my substrate, but the first 2 bags are regular wheat straw. i'm interested to see how these all develop, Vishal,
FYI-atm i have several other edible grows going on including: multiple shiiatake strains, pioppino, king oyster, and volvariella bombycina-all in various stages of development-space is a premium for me right now. i am limited on my experiments.

take care, and thanks for stopping by,

houdinihar


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Re: Tricholoma crassum, aka Macrocybe crassa cultivation [Re: houdinihar]
    #15174970 - 10/04/11 03:41 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Hi Houdinihar,
Great to see that you have turned a weed plant into a tasty mushroom, also I saw somewhere you grew out Ganoderma from them. Thinking out of box is what I always wish to do, maybe in coming months I will be doing that too:smile: I will have lots of space and proper equipments for that.
That is really lots of species at a time, I wish you get 100% success with them, Best of luck buddy.
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