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brettobean25
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bad trichoderma after first flush
#15099838 - 09/19/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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sorry for the double post here and the contamination forum but no one ever views the contam. forum. so here is the question
I had no problems with trich. during the first flush, about 45 grams fresh each cake but after soaking for the second flush(SORRY HAD TO EDIT, i DID GET SOME GOOD MUSHIES OUT OF SECOND FLUSH THIS WAS THIRD FLUSH) I had one of 5 cakes grow mushrooms and stay trich free and two more start to pin with about 2 pins then get trich and the others got trich with no pins. Could this be an infestation maybe because of fungus gnats(there are gnats but I wouldn't call it an infestation about 20 or so)carrying it in. I was thinking that they are just exhausted of nutrients enough to grow mushrooms and the trich is taking over. Please let me know what you all think ASAP because I have two mazatapec tat have been consolidating for 6 days now and are ready to go in but I am worried about putting the in the FC if it is a trich infestation.
Edited by brettobean25 (09/19/11 08:29 AM)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: brettobean25]
#15099865 - 09/19/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't hang out in the contamination forum much because I've answered every single possible contamination question so many times with pictures and full descriptions of what went wrong, that it's retarded to waste time repeating myself to enable new growers to avoid using the search engine to find their detailed answer.
That said, I suspect you waited too long to pick your first flush. Once mushrooms fruit and drop spores, the mycelium goes into die-back mode. If you'll pick just as or before the veil tears, you'll prevent spore drop and subsequent loss of vigor, which opens the gate for the trich to take over the substrate. RR
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brettobean25
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: RogerRabbit]
#15099888 - 09/19/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know, I'm sorry for posting but I have no internet at my house and have to use the time I have to post a question one day and if I don't get an answer within about 30 minutes I have to go to work and look at the answer the next day. And I know you will be viewing RogerRabit and I trust your answers because I said nothing about how long I waited to pick my first flush and you hit it on the head because my perlite was all purple so I did wait too long and the spores did drop. I did not know anything about the die back mode or anything like that so thank you even though it annoys you to answer questions more than once it is appreciated.
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brettobean25
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: brettobean25]
#15099907 - 09/19/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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so is it dangerous to put new cakes in or are they more than likely safe. I tried the search and there is nothing that answers that.
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k00laid
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: brettobean25]
#15099984 - 09/19/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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the search engine says that a fully colonized and consolidated substrate is very resistant to contamination until it fruits and begins to die.
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ccshroom
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: brettobean25]
#15099994 - 09/19/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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What kind of fruiting chamber are you using? Do you have perlite in the bottom?
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brettobean25
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Re: bad trichoderma after first flush [Re: ccshroom]
#15105154 - 09/20/11 08:04 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a SGFC with perlite, 6 inches of perlite. I tried to build it exactly like the let's grow mushrooms video but used no tape measure so the holes are 2 and 1/2 inches apart in some cases but all in all it's just like the one on the video, same size and all but see through green.
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