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Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea)
    #15083989 - 09/15/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Albino fruits in general don't seem to be the most prolific spore droppers. Penis envy doesn't seem to drop spores well either....Put them together and your in for a headache. When I do a grow of funky/novelty shrooms, I like to print enough to both trade and give away, here at the shroomery.
  I know that the most common way of obtaining spores from a cube that doesn't drop spores well, is to swab up under the cap with a Qtip. The problem I feel I will have, when doing this with an albino fruit is that the spores will be the same color as the cotton. So I decided that I needed to use Qtips that are of a different color. Unfortunately they do not sell multicolor Qtips. To remedy the problem I decided to make my own multicolor Qtips. The picture below is the products I picked up from the store. I will be trying both paper and plastic Qtips, along with non toxic food dye, and some more serious rit fabric dye(both in black). I'm hoping that on a black background I will be able to tell if I have actually obtained spores on the end of the cotton swabs.
  If everything goes as planned, I will be holding a contest shortly in the marketplace to get some of these APE swabs off my hands, so be on the look out. You can also see the progression of the tub in my APE thread. Wish me luck.
                     

So I tried a couple different combinations and found that plastic Qtips with Rit fabric dye worked the best. I put a little bit of dye in a cup and rolled the ends of the Qtips in the dye(wear gloves, and bad clothes, shit is perminent!). Then take them out and use a paper towel to squeeze all the excess dye out of the cotton. Once that's done you can wipe off the plastic centers very easily and vvvwwwaallllaaa they are back to being all cottony and soft, just a different color. Reason I didn't use paper ones was the centers got all messed up, and the food coloring just wasn't good enough. Plus I don't know if the food coloring would hold up against alcohol sanitation. Here's a picture of the finished product, what you all think?
                     


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15084003 - 09/15/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I cant wait to see how this works out. I was hoping to see someone have an answer for you in your grow log but i like that you are just going ahead to find out for yourself :thumbup:

Off topic: what exactly do people mean when they say a "contest"? I cant access the marketplace yet and always been curious as to what that means. Like what are the contests usually about? Best looking shroom, nicest pinset, biggest flush etc?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: Fungus_monk]
    #15084116 - 09/15/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The contests are anything. The one I won a PF redspore print in, was most embarrassing story. I then held a contest with the prints from that PF redspore print and it was my favorite TV quotes, first person to name the show, the person quoted, and the recipient won. Now hopefully the people that won one of the five prints will do what I did, and what the person before me, and the person before him and hold a contest.


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15084278 - 09/15/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ok gotcha man. Thats cool.


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15084427 - 09/15/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This is a neat idea, but I don't know why you're doing it. You don't really need to see the spores.
I saved some beautiful pictures that someone posted a while back, I think they're stonesun's. Correct me if I'm wrong.



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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: prismism]
    #15084484 - 09/15/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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This is a neat idea, but I don't know why you're doing it. You don't really need to see the spores.
I saved some beautiful pictures that someone posted a while back, I think they're stonesun's. Correct me if I'm wrong.






What type of cube is that? Not all albinos are true albinos, some give off dark spores. Also I was under the impression that albino spores are white/clear and most of the time are printed on foil so you can even see them. I also don't think that every albino penis envy fruit is going to give off spores, so if I do a swab and give it away or trade it I don't want the person getting pissed because it didn't actually have spores on it. I turned the tips black so that the white spores show up on it and I can know for a fact that I actually got some. I also don't know the story behind those swabs, maybe he took that many so he could hopefully get one that actually has spores on it. If that was the case and I was going to keep them for myself, your right I wouldn't be concerned. Also I don't know anything about swabbing albino fruits, I cant find much info on my specific question. I have been asking but no one wants to answer, guess they too busy answering questions like, does this cake look ok? hahaha. Sorry if that sounded hostile it wasn't meant to be. I'm kind of asking a question with this post, on how to swab albino fruits and if my idea will work?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: prismism]
    #15084649 - 09/15/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ooo falbino, well based on the amount of prints he got, I'm guessing they are a bit better spore depositors then APE. Thanks for posting those pics tho, maybe black isn't the best color based on the amount of blue that was left on the swabs. I am wondering if that will be the factor that ruins my idea(saying APE does the same). Hmm, I guess we will just have to wait and see. Ill definitely be swabbing with both the regular white, and my dyed black ones. I thought it would be as easy as white on black, but that blue does throw a kink in my plans. Thanks for taking an interest prismism(and fungusmonk). I with I could get more input on the subject but your contribution definitely helped, thanks again.


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15084721 - 09/15/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going to stay tuned!


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: irockesp]
    #15085028 - 09/15/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone dying q tips. If you make swabs with them they are guaranteed to be contaminated. That is not a big problem when working with agar but still it is extra work. Think about it. Do you really need to see the spores to know that they are there?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: overstand]
    #15085385 - 09/15/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

How do you figure by using Rit permanent fabric dye that it will automatically be contaminated? That makes absolutely no sense? Plz back up this claim by explaining your theory behind why fabric dye will make the cotton swab a breeding ground for contams? I'm sorry but I can't see how you possibly came to this conclusion? Also you obviously didn't  read the post, all of what you said has been addressed.  First the reason I used a permanent fabric dye, is so it won't lose it's pigmentation when I pre sanitize it in alcohol. Secondly I already answered the question of why I need to see the spores. I want to trade/ do a give away. What would you do if the person you traded with sent you a swab with nothing on it? I'm sure you would be pretty pissed off. I have good trade ratings because I give people what I promise them. APE isn't the best spore dropper, and I'm sure not every swab I do will be spore covered...I had an idea in hopes of getting visual confirmation that spores had been deposited onto the swab. I'm confused what your post was getting at? That my idea makes no sense, and will contam for sure? That still gets me automatic contam haha plz.


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15085604 - 09/16/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was thinking that if you use non-sterile q tips and dip them in a non-sterile liquid you would get contams. I am no expert. That is just my assumption.

I had another idea since my last post. After you have dyed the q tips, it might be a good idea to put them in a mason jar and pressure cook them.

Oh BTW, albino spore are really hard to see. I got an Falbino "spore press" from Stonesun. It was on aluminum foil and I couldn't see anything on it. I made a syringe from it and noced up some grain jars. To my amazement, there is healthy mycelium growing from the "invisible" spores. I wonder if you could make a spore press from APE?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: overstand]
    #15086132 - 09/16/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

APE spores are clear, and when swabbing it turns the q-tip blue. The bluing is the actives oxidizing when they hit the oxygen (from what I understand) The spores are there, however few in number, but there will also be pieces of the gill tissue that will get stuck in the fibers of your q-tip.  So there is a chance you will be cloning from the tissue instead of the spores, but there's no way to really tell. The point is that the swabs will still work assuming they are sterile. I usually wrap each swab in foil and PC for at least 30 mins in a mason jar, then do all swabbing in your GB (obviously :smile: )


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: magicman1900]
    #15086513 - 09/16/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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APE spores are clear, and when swabbing it turns the q-tip blue. The bluing is the actives oxidizing when they hit the oxygen (from what I understand) The spores are there, however few in number, but there will also be pieces of the gill tissue that will get stuck in the fibers of your q-tip.  So there is a chance you will be cloning from the tissue instead of the spores, but there's no way to really tell. The point is that the swabs will still work assuming they are sterile. I usually wrap each swab in foil and PC for at least 30 mins in a mason jar, then do all swabbing in your GB (obviously :smile: )




I will definitely sterilize them, I'm just hoping that maybe by swabbing them lightly they will show there spores against the black. How to vendors sell APE spores if everyone is making them out to be impossible?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15086659 - 09/16/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Why not just print on a black surface?


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: XFINITY]
    #15086789 - 09/16/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Why not just print on a black surface?




I wish I could man. I would just print on tinfoil. The problem with PE is it doesn't open up the whole way and it doesn't drop spores well. Also the fact that it's an albino makes it even harder to get spores from. So swabbing is really the only way. Since the spores are clear/white, I decided that a dark background swab would work the best. Its only a theory tho.


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Re: Swabbing Albino Penises (dyed Qtip idea) [Re: FuckMeRunnin]
    #15086831 - 09/16/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I wish I could man. I would just print on tinfoil. The problem with PE is it doesn't open up the whole way and it doesn't drop spores well. Also the fact that it's an albino makes it even harder to get spores from. So swabbing is really the only way. Since the spores are clear/white, I decided that a dark background swab would work the best. Its only a theory tho.




You do realize you are opening up a world of trouble by dying the cotton tipped applicators and scraping for spores - contamination. I would much rather have a minimal amount of clean spores than a bunch of dirty spores. Allow the cap to dry slowly to release more spores. Albinos drop lots of spores you just can't see them well, penis envy, although small veiled, are still dropping millions of spores.


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