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First timer questions
    #15084907 - 09/15/11 11:43 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I am new to the realm of psychedelics and have a few questions that need answering.

Basic info:
        -Have never taken mushrooms or any other form of psychedelic
        -Have researched extensively for many months
        -6' 155lbs (not sure if this matters, but if it does there it is)
        -Have 1.7grams of (home grown) Psilocybe Cubensis that I plan to experiment with
                                                                                          ^(maybe multiple times?)^


In my first experience I would like:
- to feel the very euphoric somewhat stoned effect that many people describe
-some slight visual changes (more vivid colors?)
-maybe some closed eye visuals?


                I have read that cubes have 6-12mg/gr Psilocybin
And have a chart to "describe" what each level would be for the mg of Psilocybin ingested.

1-2mg psilocybin = onset
2-4mg light
4-8mg mild
8-10mg transition to fullblown psychedelic effects
10-20mg range of full effects


My Questions
1. Is this chart/information correct?
2. Out of the categories on the chart which would be what? (examples of each)
3. Around what weight should I ingest for desired effects?
4. In your personal opinion what would be the best way to take them?


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Re: First timer questions [Re: bking246]
    #15085000 - 09/16/11 12:00 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well i'm not even gonna try to answer that chart question. I will just answer your more reasonable questions and provide you with good first trip advice...

1.7 grams is a very low dose, this will be good for a first time. I highly recommend you have some weed on hand. After an hour or two, if you feel you'd like a little more from your trip, smoke some. With 1.7 grams I highly doubt you'll have any real anxiety, but if you do weed can handle that nicely.

What you can expect from 1.7 (generally), is a slight body high, minor visuals, and maybe some interesting thoughts. It really shouldn't be too strong of a drug affect at that dose. It is a good starting point, after that you will know whether you'd like to take more the next time.

Wait at least 9 days between dosing, though 14 days is best. Tolerance is a big issue with tripping, so make sure to space out your trips.

Other than that, you should have some good ambient, or mellow music on hand, and maybe a few beers. Just go into it not expecting much and see what happens :thumbup:


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Re: First timer questions [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15085116 - 09/16/11 12:24 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

1.7g is a good first dose. If you fast before it will hit you a little more. Fasting for 24 hours, and then taking your sacrament with orange juice (blended helps) can give you a pretty good first time.

1. Is this chart/information correct?
  Everyone is different, and fasting, mental and physical preparedness make a difference.
2. Out of the categories on the chart which would be what? (examples of each)
  Chart is not reliable
3. Around what weight should I ingest for desired effects?
  You may want to take all of the 1.7g
4. In your personal opinion what would be the best way to take them?
  I like them in orange juice, blended in orange juice reduces nausea, improves taste, and quickens the onset.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: El Douche]
    #15085235 - 09/16/11 12:52 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I have never fasted, and never needed too. I would recommend not eating for 2 or 3 hours before you dose though.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15085276 - 09/16/11 01:00 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

1.7g is a pretty good starter dose. Having some pot on hand is a good idea if you smoke it. Some good music, snacks, and lots of fluids are good things to have on hand as well.

I don't think you have to fast necessarily, the desired result is to have an empty stomach which can be achieved in a few hours like psilocyinjunkie said.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: Devolver]
    #15085310 - 09/16/11 01:06 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

w00t another Washingtonian, that trips, we're multiplying :awecid:


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Re: First timer questions [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15085362 - 09/16/11 01:20 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: First timer questions [Re: tehdancingbear]
    #15085517 - 09/16/11 02:07 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

1.7 is a great first dose.

I tripped on 1.7 three times before I felt any effects but when I finally did, it was the most perfect trip I could possibly imagine.

Different people have different tolerance. My gf needs 1/3 as much as me. Best to play it safe at first and see how you handle it.

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Re: First timer questions [Re: Rose]
    #15085996 - 09/16/11 07:03 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

First of all I would like to say thank you all for the input.
Second; Is 1.7 enough for two people to share or keep it all for myself?


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Re: First timer questions [Re: bking246]
    #15086009 - 09/16/11 07:13 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I would keep it for yourself. You could split it and still get a decent body high for a couple first timers but it wont be near as pleasurable as 1.7 apiece.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: bking246]
    #15086013 - 09/16/11 07:16 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

All for yourself - 0.85g each would be very mild


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Re: First timer questions [Re: BigBolete]
    #15086108 - 09/16/11 08:30 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

i took an 1/8th of some homegrown amazonian cubes for my first time and it was one of the best times i have ever had on mushrooms, i wanted a full blown visual experience though, and 1.7gs is probly good for someone to introduce themselves to hallucinogens.

i would not try to split it with someone, but i would recommend to have someone fry with you it makes it much more fun unless you are a loner or prefer to be by yourself mostly.

just lemon TEK the shit out of those cubes and have a blast!


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Re: First timer questions [Re: xAbsolut Zero]
    #15086864 - 09/16/11 01:11 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Hahhahaha 1.7 is not enough for 2 people. No point in sharing that, as both of you will get no effects. Take it all by yourself, or just don't take anything.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15089327 - 09/16/11 10:42 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Dang; just siked myself out. Man I'm pissed, not really, but still kind of angry.

Had been planning on taking them tonight but then wasn't feeling it at last minute.

Is this because I really just wasn't feeling it and made the rite decision or I am subconsciencly doing this to myself because its my first time?

Does any one have any tips on relaxation and preparation?


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Re: First timer questions [Re: bking246]
    #15089351 - 09/16/11 10:48 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

The Essential Psychedelic Guide

That is a good start for reading up. Wait until you are ready.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: El Douche]
    #15089502 - 09/16/11 11:21 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Study up. If you aren't ready yet, learn more. .

The book this forum is named after is my personal favorite. You can find it at erowid.org or in one of the stickied threads on top of this page. It was written by Tim Leary.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: Rose]
    #15089834 - 09/17/11 12:35 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Good Advice from both.


Here's my advice, have a few beers, and get a little buzz going. Then after you have a buzz take the shrooms. The buzz will eliminate any anxiety or whatever, and I don't trip unless I have numerous beers on hand. :awegrow:


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Re: First timer questions [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15089906 - 09/17/11 12:52 AM (9 years, 7 months ago)

split the dosage between you an buddy suppliment it with some datura*
























*may wanna not take the datura*


Edited by Pinhead83 (09/17/11 12:54 AM)


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Re: First timer questions [Re: Pinhead83]
    #15093518 - 09/17/11 10:50 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I've read what datura does; definently staying away from that.


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Re: First timer questions [Re: bking246]
    #15103053 - 09/19/11 09:59 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Okay; quick question.. I took about 1g and lemon tek'd it, should this be good enough to feel some effects?


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