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InvisibleBuddha5254
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You are only criticized if you oppose
    #1507265 - 04/30/03 12:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

So why is it only the anti-war people got criticized and boycotted, while country singers can have songs about putting a boot up your ass if you mess with the US? Just goes to show you only face problems if you criticize the government. So why were hollywood stars told to stay out of politics but its ok for country singers to blast the airwaves with their political message?


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1507271 - 04/30/03 12:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You only face problems if you alienate the majority of the population.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1507323 - 04/30/03 12:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

criticism is a freedom of speech issue. Personally i don't care what the dixie chicks say, it's their right. It is also the right of those that disagree with them to stop listening to them. This argument has taken a funny turn as of late. These people that are being condemed want to be heard and NOT be responded to.

People have the right to speak but NOT a right to be heard.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1507375 - 04/30/03 01:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

lol you ask WHY to all of this phenomenon?

because THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU like you may think they do. they care about THEM, and they're willing to kill to keep their power and popularity; "KILL" financially, socially, politically, and literally.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Strumpling]
    #1507382 - 04/30/03 01:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

"So why is it only the anti-war people got criticized and boycotted, while country singers can have songs about putting a boot up your ass if you mess with the US? Just goes to show you only face problems if you criticize the government."

The Dixie Chicks new full well that putting their opinions in an open forum invites criticism. Nobody has thrown them in jail, tortured, beat, or put a muzzle on them. They're free to say what they want. No sympathy on this one, sorry...


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1507411 - 04/30/03 01:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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So why is it only the anti-war people got criticized and boycotted, while country singers can have songs about putting a boot up your ass if you mess with the US? Just goes to show you only face problems if you criticize the government. So why were hollywood stars told to stay out of politics but its ok for country singers to blast the airwaves with their political message?



What's stopping you and other like minded individuals from boycotting pro-war entertainers?


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Evolving]
    #1507435 - 04/30/03 01:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Quote:

So why is it only the anti-war people got criticized and boycotted, while country singers can have songs about putting a boot up your ass if you mess with the US? Just goes to show you only face problems if you criticize the government. So why were hollywood stars told to stay out of politics but its ok for country singers to blast the airwaves with their political message?



What's stopping you and other like minded individuals from boycotting pro-war entertainers?



I wouldn't have to. I don't listen to Country music.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1507583 - 04/30/03 02:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The latest figures i read was the BBC allowed 2% dissenting views during it's war reporting while ABC allowed 7%. Clearly anyone dissenting from the 98% view is going to get hammered.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: silversoul7]
    #1507599 - 04/30/03 02:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I wouldn't have to.  I don't listen to Country music. 




I bet the "majority" of americans do.... :smirk: while square dancin' round a pig roast too! yeeehaw!


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1507732 - 04/30/03 03:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

seal beater... :grin:

I can't stand country...that's one stereotype i don't want to be linked with.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1507736 - 04/30/03 03:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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seal beater... :grin:

I can't stand country...that's one stereotype i don't want to be linked with. 




Its my right to beat my seal! :mad:

If you dont like country....what do you square dance too?! :wink:


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1507747 - 04/30/03 03:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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what do you square dance too?!




mostly hip hop.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1508388 - 04/30/03 06:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

good points some of you, other force me conclude that the people in this country never cease to fucking amaze me...its a wonder we've made it this far. Invert, just out of curiosity, what hip hop are you into?


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1508628 - 04/30/03 07:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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good points some of you, other force me conclude that the people in this country never cease to fucking amaze me




eh?

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Invert, just out of curiosity, what hip hop are you into?




i don't like hip hop...it was a joke.


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1508693 - 04/30/03 08:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

"...its a wonder we've made it this far. "

Elaborate please? Or can we get back to the seal bashing? Now...Wheres that blasted club.....


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1510500 - 05/01/03 07:10 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

it's nice to see that all it takes is the beating of a cute innocent animal to bring us all together...i say we beat the dreaded ice weasel and call it a day.:grin:



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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1510810 - 05/01/03 11:12 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Geezus Christ. A fucking ice weasel? That sounds like a nasty fucking creature. I'm all for beating thefuckers to extinction...


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1511059 - 05/01/03 12:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

They are fucking ferocious...ask RONO, he was attacked. :grin:


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1511065 - 05/01/03 12:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yeah I saw it - Ice-weasel attacks are something nobody should ever have to see


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Re: You are only criticized if you oppose [Re: Strumpling]
    #1511072 - 05/01/03 12:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

we lost alot of good men that day.....*tips his glass*


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