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First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid]
#15061388 - 09/11/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey hey I recently tried shrooms with a friend for my first time. The Experience was like nothing i had ever experienced in my life. They were kabenzi mushrooms and we each had over an 8th. Here is a link... It is kind of long but i just want some insight on if anyone can explain the mind spirals i was having.
It is kind of long but just to sum things up i was hospitalized =). i wouldnt take back this experience for the world.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15061396 - 09/11/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Think i might have posted this in the wrong place. After looking around on this sight I seems like a level 5 tripping level. Should i move my post?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Psilicubes]
#15061404 - 09/11/11 06:56 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.youtube dot com/watch?v=6j3t0zIX7mA
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Psilicubes]
#15061407 - 09/11/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Welcome to your new existence! See the world as it was meant to be seen... With magic and wonder. Also, welcome to the site. You'll like it here
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: joshisstoned]
#15061416 - 09/11/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Haha Thank you. That night really has opened my mind of to... well just SOOO MUCH.... i cant stop thinking about it. It was freaky as hell... but mind opening. I keep having bits of that night come back to me. Seeing the universe as one whole being. It is still so hard to explain the state of mind i was in.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15061834 - 09/11/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Public masterbation for the win!
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: joshisstoned]
#15061908 - 09/11/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You start an account today then post this?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: HarryL]
#15062618 - 09/11/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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why not? this experience is what brought me to this site. Wanted others insight on what i experienced.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15062806 - 09/11/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Johnny Depp]
#15063181 - 09/11/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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going into the trip with the idea about my mothers cancer? was that a bad idea? or can that almost amplify a mind trip?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063203 - 09/11/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not at all man, shrooms are powerfull stuff, they can mess with your mind but in the end they show you yourself just like every other psychedelic out there. What feelings and thoughts did you end up with/right now?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15063249 - 09/11/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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I keep having the idea that the universe is one whole being.And that everything is riding a spiral of feelings feelings, colors, and emotions. Those three things are what is hiding myself from seeing a bigger picture. No clue what it was.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063276 - 09/11/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrk said: I keep having the idea that the universe is one whole being.And that everything is riding a spiral of feelings feelings, colors, and emotions. Those three things are what is hiding myself from seeing a bigger picture. No clue what it was.
Hehe, i know the feeling man, its hard and difficult/impossible to comprehend.
I personally dont look for things i cant understand or know when i consume psychedelics. Maybe you should focus more on the reality when you trip?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15063291 - 09/11/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was my first time. I was focusing on trying not to freak out and to stay with reality. I also felt like this whole life situation was a plotted out reality from god. And that this was the end. My friend was dressed in a bunch of colorful cloths and that she was the gateway to a new life. >.<
Shrooms are a hell of a drug.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063311 - 09/11/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrk said: It was my first time. I was focusing on trying not to freak out and to stay with reality. I also felt like this whole life situation was a plotted out reality from god. And that this was the end. My friend was dressed in a bunch of colorful cloths and that she was the gateway to a new life. >.<
Shrooms are a hell of a drug.
You said it yourself. In the end its almost only a drug but fortunately shrooms are psychedelic and have enlightenment inside them. The question is, did you consume them as a drug? Do you know why you decided to trip?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15063321 - 09/11/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The reason i consumed them was because i watched entourage and they took tham as a way of reasoning. I am at a moment in life were I'm about o transfer to a 4 year university and I felt somewhat lost in life not knowing which path to take.
Figured maybe shrooms might help out.
they did. they really opened my mind up to a bigger picture relizing and almost understanding that there are higher powers unexplainable in the universe. I just need to enjoy myself and ride this twisted ride.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063412 - 09/11/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063416 - 09/11/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you know what path to take now after your trip?
Is this: I keep having the idea that the universe is one whole being.And that everything is riding a spiral of feelings feelings, colors, and emotions. Those three things are what is hiding myself from seeing a bigger picture. No clue what it was. The reason why you think there are higher powers up there and its all because of that one shroom trip?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063561 - 09/11/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrooms spin all the dials and throw all the levers in your brain. This can be good if you realize that your thoughts and feelings, on shrooms or off, are just a result of your brain; it can be bad if you think that shrooms show you a "real" reality, and being sober is an inferior reality. In truth both the psychedelic state and the sober state of mind are a part of reality. My rule is that psychedelic insights have to be integrated into the sober world, or they are just a product of a tripping brain.
Death is an important contemplation in spiritual practices. The Buddha encouraged people to meditate on corpses in various stages of decay, so that they could come to terms with and accept death. Ramana Maharshi realized enlightenment when he simulated the death of his body by mimicking the state of a corpse. You had the potential death of your mother in mind, that explains the trip to me.
Don't believe that psychedelics have shown you the truth, and don't believe that your sober mind has either. You should be the one who decides what reality should be.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15063706 - 09/11/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: Do you know what path to take now after your trip?
Is this: I keep having the idea that the universe is one whole being.And that everything is riding a spiral of feelings feelings, colors, and emotions. Those three things are what is hiding myself from seeing a bigger picture. No clue what it was. The reason why you think there are higher powers up there and its all because of that one shroom trip?
Well I have only been on this one trip. I don't believe I have found the meaning of life cause in the end when I saw my mom walk into the hospital room. I just relized that this was all just in my head. But it opened doors to alot of "what Ifs". I feel like I leveled up in life.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Hygrocybe]
#15063930 - 09/11/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hygrocybe said: Shrooms spin all the dials and throw all the levers in your brain. This can be good if you realize that your thoughts and feelings, on shrooms or off, are just a result of your brain; it can be bad if you think that shrooms show you a "real" reality, and being sober is an inferior reality. In truth both the psychedelic state and the sober state of mind are a part of reality. My rule is that psychedelic insights have to be integrated into the sober world, or they are just a product of a tripping brain.
Death is an important contemplation in spiritual practices. The Buddha encouraged people to meditate on corpses in various stages of decay, so that they could come to terms with and accept death. Ramana Maharshi realized enlightenment when he simulated the death of his body by mimicking the state of a corpse. You had the potential death of your mother in mind, that explains the trip to me.
Don't believe that psychedelics have shown you the truth, and don't believe that your sober mind has either. You should be the one who decides what reality should be.
It was so real. I do relize that it sad all in my head. But it just Telly opened my mind to more answers to life. My mind was not capable of thinking in these ways before the trip.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15063951 - 09/11/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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liquidlounge said: Do you know what path to take now after your trip?
Is this: I keep having the idea that the universe is one whole being.And that everything is riding a spiral of feelings feelings, colors, and emotions. Those three things are what is hiding myself from seeing a bigger picture. No clue what it was. The reason why you think there are higher powers up there and its all because of that one shroom trip?
Well I have only been on this one trip. I don't believe I have found the meaning of life cause in the end when I saw my mom walk into the hospital room. I just relized that this was all just in my head. But it opened doors to alot of "what Ifs". I feel like I leveled up in life.
True, but where do these "what if" end? There is no ending to it. Did you really level up in life or make it even more complicated (exciting in the start but maybe complicated in the long run...?)?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15064147 - 09/11/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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The what ifs go no were : /
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15064274 - 09/11/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shrk said: The what ifs go no were : /
I personally dont look for things i cant understand or know when i consume psychedelics. Maybe you should focus more on the reality the next time you decide to trip (and stop chasing that insane visual/thoughts/feelings/life changing experience etc, its a trap most fall into...)?
Look into phenetylamines and low-medium dosing...
Thats how i started gaining enlightenment from psychedelic tools.
(Dont take my word for it, im sure there are hundreds of experienced trippers on here that would disagree...)
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15064593 - 09/11/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are on the right track by saying you feel like the whole universe is one being. You should study religion and spirituality, i think you'd a lot of it will make sense to you know. Hinduism teaches that everything is one being.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: porcupine]
#15065084 - 09/11/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holy Shit man that's a wild first trip. And quite the PSA for why first timers should have sitters! What's your folks reaction to the situation? Things weird between you and mandy now? What was the hospital bill? And how'd you get there? Police, ambulance, family?
Welcome to the shroomery man!
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
#15065094 - 09/11/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shoot I just relized all the misspelled words. I'm going to wait till I'm off work and not on an iPhone.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15065161 - 09/11/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are hot.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Rewindicus]
#15065533 - 09/11/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: Holy Shit man that's a wild first trip. And quite the PSA for why first timers should have sitters! What's your folks reaction to the situation? Things weird between you and mandy now? What was the hospital bill? And how'd you get there? Police, ambulance, family?
Welcome to the shroomery man!
Hey hey still on iPhone sorry if I misspell anything. I vividly remember kissing Mandy. It's like trying to remember a dream. Things are great with us though! We really connected spiritually that night, it made us closer friends. My mom got her kidney taken out today. The tumor was 3in and consumed the kidney making it useless. They are currently testing it for cancer. She gets out of the hospital tomorrow. Things are great with the folks though! They know I'm studying hard in college and also know that my curiosity tends to seduce me into weird things.
I think my mother was somewhat of a hippy in the 60s and 70s I think that's why she laughed at me. The hospital bill was 1500 because of the ambulance ride that I don't remember.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15065574 - 09/11/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: Holy Shit man that's a wild first trip. And quite the PSA for why first timers should have sitters! What's your folks reaction to the situation? Things weird between you and mandy now? What was the hospital bill? And how'd you get there? Police, ambulance, family?
Welcome to the shroomery man!
Hey hey still on iPhone sorry if I misspell anything. I vividly remember kissing Mandy. It's like trying to remember a dream. Things are great with us though! We really connected spiritually that night, it made us closer friends. My mom got her kidney taken out today. The tumor was 3in and consumed the kidney making it useless. They are currently testing it for cancer. She gets out of the hospital tomorrow. Things are great with the folks though! They know I'm studying hard in college and also know that my curiosity tends to seduce me into weird things.
I think my mother was somewhat of a hippy in the 60s and 70s I think that's why she laughed at me. The hospital bill was 1500 because of the ambulance ride that I don't remember.
hope she's doin all right dude
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15065688 - 09/11/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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you never said if you would try them again, the masturbation thing is worth looking into,what was that all about, you dont want something like that on your record, sounds like they were potent shrooms, how long did all this last .
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: ant61]
#15065741 - 09/11/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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ant61 said: you never said if you would try them again, the masturbation thing is worth looking into,what was that all about, you dont want something like that on your record, sounds like they were potent shrooms, how long did all this last .
Hahaha the next day I tracked down the officer who apprehended me. I apologized and told him that was not me. Its crazy that he told me he understood o.O... No charges were pressed against me and he's happy that I was responsible at trying to clean up my mess. Not sure how long it lasted because they sedated me in the ambulance. In the end I had consumed alittle more then and 8th and when I took the last 2 grams I did smoke half a bowl. I think that might have triggered the spiral sensation.
I do plan on tripping again. We want to go camping this time. Away from people and in nature.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15065849 - 09/12/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good shit man. I would definitely say that recently finding out about your mom's cancer made the trip more intense. I wouldn't say it was a bad idea, it was an idea and it brought up some real shit pretty quickly. A lot of people are more careful and start with smaller doses with only good vibes going on and it takes a while to really get to the deep end of what shrooms have to show us. It seems like you can take it, well not to say that you didn't loose your shit because you definitely did. But you don't look back at it as a terrible experience that you would never try again. So for that reason I would say it was a perfect time to take them. But next time try it when your in a more stable place emotionally, because if you keep pulling that shit your gonna run out of tripping buddies fast haha!
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
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ant61 said: you never said if you would try them again, the masturbation thing is worth looking into,what was that all about, you dont want something like that on your record, sounds like they were potent shrooms, how long did all this last .
Hahaha the next day I tracked down the officer who apprehended me. I apologized and told him that was not me. Its crazy that he told me he understood o.O... No charges were pressed against me and he's happy that I was responsible at trying to clean up my mess. Not sure how long it lasted because they sedated me in the ambulance. In the end I had consumed alittle more then and 8th and when I took the last 2 grams I did smoke half a bowl. I think that might have triggered the spiral sensation.
I do plan on tripping again. We want to go camping this time. Away from people and in nature.
yah an maybe have someone sober around or a veteran to keep you from jumping into the fire or scaring other campers if you happen to go into public beat off mode again. Whats funny though is yours isnt the first story ive heard/read about people getting fuckedup and taking all their clothes off and trying to hump or beat off. kinda wild how a drug can make you get all primal down to the very core motivators - feed and breed!
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Rewindicus]
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ant61 said: you never said if you would try them again, the masturbation thing is worth looking into,what was that all about, you dont want something like that on your record, sounds like they were potent shrooms, how long did all this last .
Hahaha the next day I tracked down the officer who apprehended me. I apologized and told him that was not me. Its crazy that he told me he understood o.O... No charges were pressed against me and he's happy that I was responsible at trying to clean up my mess. Not sure how long it lasted because they sedated me in the ambulance. In the end I had consumed alittle more then and 8th and when I took the last 2 grams I did smoke half a bowl. I think that might have triggered the spiral sensation.
I do plan on tripping again. We want to go camping this time. Away from people and in nature.
yah an maybe have someone sober around or a veteran to keep you from jumping into the fire or scaring other campers if you happen to go into public beat off mode again. Whats funny though is yours isnt the first story ive heard/read about people getting fuckedup and taking all their clothes off and trying to hump or beat off. kinda wild how a drug can make you get all primal down to the very core motivators - feed and breed!
shoot lol. Yes next time there is going to be about 6 of us and 3 of us are going to trip.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15066396 - 09/12/11 05:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the responses. Im glad to see other people POVs about this.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15066864 - 09/12/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds like a crazy trip! Glad you're ok though.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: TurkeyTom]
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Hey man, I had a pretty similar trip to you. You're lucky you didn't get arrested (and charged, I mean). I also had the whole strip naked thing going down and thought this was a simulation for god. be careful with that shit man. it's just the drugs fucking with your brain. I hope you exercise more caution in the future
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15250946 - 10/20/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just wanted to update this forum.
About three weeks ago i smoked with my friend. I expieranced the exact same feeling i did that shroom night. The same spiraling and sensation that everything is me. It felt as if god was talking to me saying that this is heaven. there is no after life nor is there a hell. I will never experience true pain in a lake of fire in hell. Nor forever happiness in heaven. What i have at this very moment is the answer to life. - About 3 weeks pass and im laying in bed. I hadn't smoked since that night. I was watching my screen saver on my monitor and it hit me again. The Full effect of that spiraling sensation of life. What is this. Something might have messed up in my mind but it still felt as if god was talking to me. I felt music was talking to me as i listened to it. Its just nuts. Im looking into a psychiatrist to press this thoughts on cause its freaking me out. Every now and then i have these jolts of fear hit me. The same spiral for like a second.
How is it possible for something to have hit me like that completely sober.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15250983 - 10/20/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Welcome to shroomery. Yeah this stuff is all common with psychedelics.
If you thought the shroom trip was of another realm, you should look into DMT.
Also just a heads up, there are many conflicting views about psychedelics on this forum. Some people consider them religious and spiritual sacraments here, or a medicine. Others here view them as not much more then recreational substances and disregard the experiences as simply mental masturbation no matter how spiritually or religious inclined the experiences are, thus shrugging most of these kind of insights, feelings and "lessons". Which isn't a bad thing nor to say it makes the experiences just some meaningless illusion. It can help to actually stay sane in consensus reality after diving deep into the psychedelic realm. Myself, I linger in the middle and so do alot of other people. Not a total skeptic but if it has no real use or can't be integrated in a healthy logical way to my sober living that makes sense. Then chances are its over powered metaphorical bullshit.
Hope you stick around the shroomery yo.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#15251003 - 10/20/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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please define "The Full Effect" of that spiraling sensation of life, further.
are you saying identical, like full on trip? or just the mindset? and how long?
Also I loved what this person said. Quote:
Hygrocybe said: Shrooms spin all the dials and throw all the levers in your brain. This can be good if you realize that your thoughts and feelings, on shrooms or off, are just a result of your brain; it can be bad if you think that shrooms show you a "real" reality, and being sober is an inferior reality. In truth both the psychedelic state and the sober state of mind are a part of reality. My rule is that psychedelic insights have to be integrated into the sober world, or they are just a product of a tripping brain.
Death is an important contemplation in spiritual practices. The Buddha encouraged people to meditate on corpses in various stages of decay, so that they could come to terms with and accept death. Ramana Maharshi realized enlightenment when he simulated the death of his body by mimicking the state of a corpse. You had the potential death of your mother in mind, that explains the trip to me.
Don't believe that psychedelics have shown you the truth, and don't believe that your sober mind has either. You should be the one who decides what reality should be.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: JilPil]
#15251927 - 10/20/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't openly put your face on a website devoted to discussing ILLEGAL drug use...
noob
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Angel_Above]
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Angel_Above said: Don't openly put your face on a website devoted to discussing ILLEGAL drug use...
noob
Such judgemental, i was kinda hoping after 4500 posts on shroomery + a couple of hundred trips (?) you would be able to understand that maybe this is what the world needs more of?
Whos the real noob?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#15251969 - 10/20/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Spiraling every emotion i have ever felt every color i have ever seen into like a message. I'm not really even seeing this at all nor am i hearing it. More so Feeling all this. Ill feel pain for a second then arousal then full of happiness. I also cant seem to control my sight as it bounces around the room. Black to white to black to white.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
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Shrk said: Spiraling every emotion i have ever felt every color i have ever seen into like a message. I'm not really even seeing this at all nor am i hearing it. More so Feeling all this. Ill feel pain for a second then arousal then full of happiness. I also cant seem to control my sight as it bounces around the room. Black to white to black to white.
If your brain was running computer binary, would you say that you were all 1s? As if everything you could ever experience was happening all at once? Not a single 0 on that sequence.
I agree with you to go see someone. (I'v seen tons of shitty doctors too, so dont let one tell you everything) because any advice I give you, isn't backed up by phds, only a high school diploma.
edit: But only you know for sure how bad it is to you.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: liquidlounge]
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liquidlounge said:
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Angel_Above said: Don't openly put your face on a website devoted to discussing ILLEGAL drug use...
noob
Such judgemental, i was kinda hoping after 4500 posts on shroomery + a couple of hundred trips (?) you would be able to understand that maybe this is what the world needs more of?
Whos the real noob?
there are literally 1000's of trip/reaction videos on youtube and none of those people seem to be ending up in jail whats the problem if this guy put a youtube link on a site? Theres plenty of threads you got posted admitting to drug use kinda n00bish to me.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: JilPil]
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You did too much.
I watched your vid. after finding it during random searchings before you posted it here. I appreciate your sharing.
The spiraling will get less and go away eventually I'd bet.
Lower doses are useful. You just had one memorable introduction.
Blessings.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#15252698 - 10/20/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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But can anyone explain possibly why im feeling these same sensations sober. They overwhelm me and Its mind blowing. Its like random every thing i have ever known seen or felt is being spiraled into a box. Its not really "bad". At first its really freaky but it all comes together and even gets so far to seeing messages on walls and on TV. When people say that everything is here for a reason... I am a huge believer in that now. Just small things seem to be placed there for me. And songs are referring to the moment I was in. Freak occurrences idk. Im just freaking out i guess.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
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Well, not to freak you out but this COULD be a kindling of an underlying mental issue.
Theres also the fact that when people have super profound experiences on these chemicals some people start seeing things in a very different way. Sometimes they think that they are being spoken to by other entities or god or the elves or whatever. once you step into that territory be real careful bout the messages and what they are tellin you.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Rewindicus]
#15252899 - 10/20/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rewindicus said: Well, not to freak you out but this COULD be a kindling of an underlying mental issue.
Theres also the fact that when people have super profound experiences on these chemicals some people start seeing things in a very different way. Sometimes they think that they are being spoken to by other entities or god or the elves or whatever. once you step into that territory be real careful bout the messages and what they are tellin you.
But Shrk will make it through this!
Won't ya Shrk.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Rewindicus]
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Shrk said: But can anyone explain possibly why im feeling these same sensations sober. They overwhelm me and Its mind blowing. Its like random every thing i have ever known seen or felt is being spiraled into a box. Its not really "bad". At first its really freaky but it all comes together and even gets so far to seeing messages on walls and on TV. When people say that everything is here for a reason... I am a huge believer in that now. Just small things seem to be placed there for me. And songs are referring to the moment I was in. Freak occurrences idk. Im just freaking out i guess.
Dude, You just had your perspective shattered, changed, and broadened. Psychedelics often do this to people. It can be a little I guess, overwhelming the first time it happens to you and can make you feel very very different then you did prior to the experience, some people refer to this as an "afterglow". Over time with out more psychedelic use this feeling your going through can fade.
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Rewindicus said: Well, not to freak you out but this COULD be a kindling of an underlying mental issue.
Possible, I just think he tripped face for his first time. For the anyones first time, OPs reaction is pretty spot on for alot of people.
Edit: Oh damn I didnt even see you explain what I did in your second paragraph, time to change the status to stoned lol.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
#15253143 - 10/20/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Abstrakt just posted a lot of truth.
Because really you are everything.
You have lived numerous past lives and will die and continue into another being.
That really nice guy at the post office you get along with so well probably is a member of your soul family and was your father or son or sister in some life.
And yes, religion is a facade meant to control the masses. It's losing it's effect on newer generations so we have replaced church with TV, video games, Justin Bieber etc.
Once the church told you how to live and who to follow, now it's other icons on the TV and on the iPod.
Finding these things out consciously and understanding is not a comfortable feeling. In fact, it's VERY uncomfortable.
It took many times seeing what I already know, and going through some very difficult times before I accepted what I already knew as truth in my heart.
Why do you think these substances are kept illegal? Who made them illegal in the first place?
The powers that be certainly don't want you eating a magic fungi that allows you to see the truth in the universe. Then you wouldn't follow their ridiculous rules, you wouldn't think and act how you were conditioned at birth to act.
So, make it illegal, attach ugly social stigmas to it, make people SCARED of it and the truth.
There are definitely reasons why you are having such uncomfortable feelings of euphoria.
Psychosis isn't one of them I believe, waking up is most likely the answer.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: GrandfatheredInn]
#15253260 - 10/20/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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GrandfatheredInn said: Abstrakt just posted a lot of truth.
Because really you are everything.
You have lived numerous past lives and will die and continue into another being.
That really nice guy at the post office you get along with so well probably is a member of your soul family and was your father or son or sister in some life.
And yes, religion is a facade meant to control the masses. It's losing it's effect on newer generations so we have replaced church with TV, video games, Justin Bieber etc.
Once the church told you how to live and who to follow, now it's other icons on the TV and on the iPod.
Finding these things out consciously and understanding is not a comfortable feeling. In fact, it's VERY uncomfortable.
It took many times seeing what I already know, and going through some very difficult times before I accepted what I already knew as truth in my heart.
Why do you think these substances are kept illegal? Who made them illegal in the first place?
The powers that be certainly don't want you eating a magic fungi that allows you to see the truth in the universe. Then you wouldn't follow their ridiculous rules, you wouldn't think and act how you were conditioned at birth to act.
So, make it illegal, attach ugly social stigmas to it, make people SCARED of it and the truth.
There are definitely reasons why you are having such uncomfortable feelings of euphoria.
Psychosis isn't one of them I believe, waking up is most likely the answer.
uhh son!
very true!
Talking to doctors will help... if you believe talking to doctors will help. Talking to your dog can also help. or even your close, open friends.
Edited by JilPil (10/20/11 05:54 PM)
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: GrandfatheredInn]
#15253312 - 10/20/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I feel ya; I've never seen messages on walls but everything else...
It has gotten less "in-your-face" as time goes on; but my perceptions of reality remain expanded.
Blessings.
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#15254202 - 10/20/11 08:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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i watched your video. much of it resounded with my experiences with shrooms, early on.
i'll comment:
your trip was a strong 3. not to discredit the immensity of your experience... believe me, i understand how overwhelming it can be to go through what you've gone through. but a level 5 is just... at least one order of magnitude different. it's okay, not a criticism, not a dare. not me saying "my trip was more than thou" kind of thing... if you ever feel that it's important to have a level 5, i'll say it's just... a goddamned mindfuck and a half further.
yes, we are all one being. it's strange when you feel isolated to say such a thing. but wisdom that comes from the mushroom shows us that we are all connected. we are part of an infinite action/reaction sequence between ourselves and the rest of the universe. measuring becomes less important than the realization that even though you may seem insignificant in a moment the effects of what you do will multiply over time if you are clever and powerful in your implementation. on the opposite end of this spectrum, if you are full of ego and seem important because of your "wealth" or "power" the reality is that you are actually much closer to the masses in your efficacy than your bloated self-assessment might convey to you.
my first mushroom experience was years ago, but i think about it EVERY - SINGLE - DAY.
i've had more since, and they all become singular and important and profound, but i'll never forget the day this door was opened.
don't worry about the getting naked and jerking it thing. mushrooms remind us that we are all sexual creatures, and that sex creates life, and that since all organisms are in the business of creating life - all the pleasure and nakedness and fun that comes with it is nature's way of rewarding us for doing our business. many, MANY times on shrooms... around others or alone have i had the profound compulsion to stop messing around and get real with my nakedness. some of my best sexual experiences happened on low to medium levels of shrooms... absolutely explosive, shuddering, connected-with-god orgasms. and she felt it too. i think it's no accident that the earth teacher gives us wisdom and then motivates us to fuck... since after all, it is in the benefit of nature and life that wise, responsible human beings outnumber the narrow-minded, gullible, fascist, murdering, polluting fuck-tards.
this is not a "drug." better words are "medicine" and "sacrament" and "communion with god." our culture teaches us to stuff ideas into boxes. this thing is so much more than that. in my opinion, the mushroom is a catalyst for the purpose of exchange of knowlege. its creator is so goddamned smart that it knows how to communicate with organisms so utterly different that biology places them in entirely different kingdoms. what you must realize is that the essence of the spirit that works through the mushroom is studying you at least as much as you are studying it. the force of nature is guided by its assessment of the organisms which engage in communication with it. it is such a strong, brilliant, wise, and ancient of a thing that when you confront it you often swear you are in the presence of a god. but this "god" is honest and humble enough to have told me that it is not "God" but rather an emissary higher up in the order of things.
since i first took mushrooms, i have noticed that everything i think/see/perceive is processed through a new intellectual filter in my mind. i have not changed, but i have gained new abilities. i don't find it unusual at all that you can find yourself perceiving the world through new glasses, and being able to bring yourself into a somewhat psychedelic state even when you're not "on drugs." i am capable today, in the right circumstances, to bring about a sense of mind that is quite remniscient of being on shrooms, even when i'm not. it does make changes to your mind, but i think it only does it with your permission, and cooperation. as you grow, you incorporate what the mushroom has to say into the vocabulary of your thought. you can choose to think it, or you can choose to ignore it. but you can never forget it.
all of the things we experience that we cannot understand are given to us for two reasons, i think. first, for the mushroom to gauge how much you can handle. as it talks to you, it determines the facility of your mind, and then makes adjustments to its message. the second reason is to give us ideas and thought-patterns just on the edge of what we can hold on to, so that we might work our brain-muscles to get stronger, and do new things. the mushroom is a catalyst for newness, and though it can gift you new thought, the greatest thing it can offer to you is an ability to think in new ways. what it gains from communicating with us is the occasional surprise.
i once had a conversation with the mushroom in which it reacted to me in astonishment. i came up with an idea that it had never seen before, and it rewarded me with a fullbody orgasm. i literally came. total shudder throughout my body, cum all over everything, super-bliss high like i had never experience before. the mushroom is a kind of technology, a kind of internet communication, crafted by beings so alien and intelligent and different from ourselves that the best word we have for them is "vegetable." not: "hyperdimensional sporulated pan-spermic etherial genetically-engineered self-reflecting interwoven super-luminal communicating fourier mathematical galactic neural-network." or something like that.
as i'm falling asleep... if i catch myself before i become unaware that i am dreaming, i can consciously direct my mental state into that of mushrooms or ayahuasca. and then i have a really interesting night... because i am playing consciously on the magic and machine of the universe, feeling every feedback with my fingers on the buttons and keys. i have made this happen perhaps 6 or 8 times, but everyone at work tells me i look different, younger than the day before. if they had any clue how deep i have gone with psychedelics they would throw me into the category of the hippies, homeless, and insane. though i am not!
back in my college days i spoke to a couple of counselors about my experiences with "psychedelics," and they had very little to say that was of value. they recited the textbook response which i had already understood and heard a million times before. it was brutally clear to me that they had no f&1!ng idea because they had never had the experience before. how can you comment intelligently on a subject you have never actually studied?
as far as the "spiral" goes... i think it has something to do with the golden mean, that everything in nature seeks itself toward something beautiful in the end... and that the process is the refinement of that which exists in the crude form toward that which can exist in the divine form. otherness falls by the wayside. the representation of beauty can be described mathematically, in the mathematics of the spiral.
i realize this is a lot to read. and a lot to assimilate without a grain of salt. it is the state of understanding i have reached after years of trying to come to an understanding of the mushroom.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: markhammond]
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Nice first post!
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: GrandfatheredInn]
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Always interesting hearing about people's trips. Props on the Helios too. Quality post.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: JilPil]
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Rewindicus said: Well, not to freak you out but this COULD be a kindling of an underlying mental issue.
Theres also the fact that when people have super profound experiences on these chemicals some people start seeing things in a very different way. Sometimes they think that they are being spoken to by other entities or god or the elves or whatever. once you step into that territory be real careful bout the messages and what they are tellin you.
spooky I dont plan on taking anything for awhile.Quote:
markhammond said: i watched your video. much of it resounded with my experiences with shrooms, early on.
i'll comment:
your trip was a strong 3. not to discredit the immensity of your experience... believe me, i understand how overwhelming it can be to go through what you've gone through. but a level 5 is just... at least one order of magnitude different. it's okay, not a criticism, not a dare. not me saying "my trip was more than thou" kind of thing... if you ever feel that it's important to have a level 5, i'll say it's just... a goddamned mindfuck and a half further.
yes, we are all one being. it's strange when you feel isolated to say such a thing. but wisdom that comes from the mushroom shows us that we are all connected. we are part of an infinite action/reaction sequence between ourselves and the rest of the universe. measuring becomes less important than the realization that even though you may seem insignificant in a moment the effects of what you do will multiply over time if you are clever and powerful in your implementation. on the opposite end of this spectrum, if you are full of ego and seem important because of your "wealth" or "power" the reality is that you are actually much closer to the masses in your efficacy than your bloated self-assessment might convey to you.
my first mushroom experience was years ago, but i think about it EVERY - SINGLE - DAY.
i've had more since, and they all become singular and important and profound, but i'll never forget the day this door was opened.
don't worry about the getting naked and jerking it thing. mushrooms remind us that we are all sexual creatures, and that sex creates life, and that since all organisms are in the business of creating life - all the pleasure and nakedness and fun that comes with it is nature's way of rewarding us for doing our business. many, MANY times on shrooms... around others or alone have i had the profound compulsion to stop messing around and get real with my nakedness. some of my best sexual experiences happened on low to medium levels of shrooms... absolutely explosive, shuddering, connected-with-god orgasms. and she felt it too. i think it's no accident that the earth teacher gives us wisdom and then motivates us to fuck... since after all, it is in the benefit of nature and life that wise, responsible human beings outnumber the narrow-minded, gullible, fascist, murdering, polluting fuck-tards.
this is not a "drug." better words are "medicine" and "sacrament" and "communion with god." our culture teaches us to stuff ideas into boxes. this thing is so much more than that. in my opinion, the mushroom is a catalyst for the purpose of exchange of knowlege. its creator is so goddamned smart that it knows how to communicate with organisms so utterly different that biology places them in entirely different kingdoms. what you must realize is that the essence of the spirit that works through the mushroom is studying you at least as much as you are studying it. the force of nature is guided by its assessment of the organisms which engage in communication with it. it is such a strong, brilliant, wise, and ancient of a thing that when you confront it you often swear you are in the presence of a god. but this "god" is honest and humble enough to have told me that it is not "God" but rather an emissary higher up in the order of things.
since i first took mushrooms, i have noticed that everything i think/see/perceive is processed through a new intellectual filter in my mind. i have not changed, but i have gained new abilities. i don't find it unusual at all that you can find yourself perceiving the world through new glasses, and being able to bring yourself into a somewhat psychedelic state even when you're not "on drugs." i am capable today, in the right circumstances, to bring about a sense of mind that is quite remniscient of being on shrooms, even when i'm not. it does make changes to your mind, but i think it only does it with your permission, and cooperation. as you grow, you incorporate what the mushroom has to say into the vocabulary of your thought. you can choose to think it, or you can choose to ignore it. but you can never forget it.
all of the things we experience that we cannot understand are given to us for two reasons, i think. first, for the mushroom to gauge how much you can handle. as it talks to you, it determines the facility of your mind, and then makes adjustments to its message. the second reason is to give us ideas and thought-patterns just on the edge of what we can hold on to, so that we might work our brain-muscles to get stronger, and do new things. the mushroom is a catalyst for newness, and though it can gift you new thought, the greatest thing it can offer to you is an ability to think in new ways. what it gains from communicating with us is the occasional surprise.
i once had a conversation with the mushroom in which it reacted to me in astonishment. i came up with an idea that it had never seen before, and it rewarded me with a fullbody orgasm. i literally came. total shudder throughout my body, cum all over everything, super-bliss high like i had never experience before. the mushroom is a kind of technology, a kind of internet communication, crafted by beings so alien and intelligent and different from ourselves that the best word we have for them is "vegetable." not: "hyperdimensional sporulated pan-spermic etherial genetically-engineered self-reflecting interwoven super-luminal communicating fourier mathematical galactic neural-network." or something like that.
as i'm falling asleep... if i catch myself before i become unaware that i am dreaming, i can consciously direct my mental state into that of mushrooms or ayahuasca. and then i have a really interesting night... because i am playing consciously on the magic and machine of the universe, feeling every feedback with my fingers on the buttons and keys. i have made this happen perhaps 6 or 8 times, but everyone at work tells me i look different, younger than the day before. if they had any clue how deep i have gone with psychedelics they would throw me into the category of the hippies, homeless, and insane. though i am not!
back in my college days i spoke to a couple of counselors about my experiences with "psychedelics," and they had very little to say that was of value. they recited the textbook response which i had already understood and heard a million times before. it was brutally clear to me that they had no f&1!ng idea because they had never had the experience before. how can you comment intelligently on a subject you have never actually studied?
as far as the "spiral" goes... i think it has something to do with the golden mean, that everything in nature seeks itself toward something beautiful in the end... and that the process is the refinement of that which exists in the crude form toward that which can exist in the divine form. otherness falls by the wayside. the representation of beauty can be described mathematically, in the mathematics of the spiral.
i realize this is a lot to read. and a lot to assimilate without a grain of salt. it is the state of understanding i have reached after years of trying to come to an understanding of the mushroom.
Wow thank you so much for the insight on all of this. I can really see maybe that everything is not really me but that everything is connected. That helps me realize that i am not a god or what not. I kepted getting the sense that everyone was almost made of in my mind and that everything was under me. I thought it would be impossible to get that out of my mind because i would never be able to... i don't know... get proof that there are other living conscious.
I am so terrible at trying to explain this.
I also liked how you described this as a "Communion with god". You think.... maaaybe... the last supper consisted a drug? to enter this realm? "Take this shroom all of you and eat from it" And maybe generations to come changed that drug to the bread or body of christ.
All of this is just so surreal its hard to believe. But im really back down to earth now and have accepted this. Toward the end of each, so called, Episodes i get the conclusion that in the end i need to be happy. And also... Married >.< The biggest upset feeling i kepted getting was loneliness.
The Full body Orgasm you experience i recall i was teased with. This was the second episode were i smoked with my friend and was sent through the spiral. All my feelings went straight to my feel good nerves and my dick sprouted straight up >.< But as religion kicked in the knowledge of ejaculation damages the soul came into mind and backed it down.
The Bible shelters us from evil. I do see now why these are illegal. Cause its a lot to handle.
And i mention in the text on the youtube video. You mention that at the end of the spiral is something magnificent. I keep feeling this spiral as the Fibonacci sequence.
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GrandfatheredInn said: Abstrakt just posted a lot of truth.
Because really you are everything.
You have lived numerous past lives and will die and continue into another being.
That really nice guy at the post office you get along with so well probably is a member of your soul family and was your father or son or sister in some life.
And yes, religion is a facade meant to control the masses. It's losing it's effect on newer generations so we have replaced church with TV, video games, Justin Bieber etc.
Once the church told you how to live and who to follow, now it's other icons on the TV and on the iPod.
Finding these things out consciously and understanding is not a comfortable feeling. In fact, it's VERY uncomfortable.
It took many times seeing what I already know, and going through some very difficult times before I accepted what I already knew as truth in my heart.
Why do you think these substances are kept illegal? Who made them illegal in the first place?
The powers that be certainly don't want you eating a magic fungi that allows you to see the truth in the universe. Then you wouldn't follow their ridiculous rules, you wouldn't think and act how you were conditioned at birth to act.
So, make it illegal, attach ugly social stigmas to it, make people SCARED of it and the truth.
There are definitely reasons why you are having such uncomfortable feelings of euphoria.
Psychosis isn't one of them I believe, waking up is most likely the answer.
uhh son!
very true!
Talking to doctors will help... if you believe talking to doctors will help. Talking to your dog can also help. or even your close, open friends.
Its crazy that you mention dogs. My dog Chewie has been there for every episode. And the spiraling from black to white always lead me to see him. He got me through alot of this. I vent on him alot.
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Shrk said: Spiraling every emotion i have ever felt every color i have ever seen into like a message. I'm not really even seeing this at all nor am i hearing it. More so Feeling all this. Ill feel pain for a second then arousal then full of happiness. I also cant seem to control my sight as it bounces around the room. Black to white to black to white.
If your brain was running computer binary, would you say that you were all 1s? As if everything you could ever experience was happening all at once? Not a single 0 on that sequence.
I agree with you to go see someone. (I'v seen tons of shitty doctors too, so dont let one tell you everything) because any advice I give you, isn't backed up by phds, only a high school diploma.
edit: But only you know for sure how bad it is to you.
About the binary. I would say absolutly. Because Binary really consist of alot of switches yes and no kind of. And the shroom was throwing all the levers (As i quote a post from earlier) I Could not control what lever was to be thrown next.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
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I cracked up at the "just started jerkin it" part
Sounds like a fucking nuts trip though, glad it all turned out alright!
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#15255534 - 10/21/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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You need to take more drugs in general. You'll build up a slight tolerance and it will be overall more pleasurable. Worked for me.
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#15343169 - 11/09/11 03:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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It hit me again... This time not so overwhelming but more understanding. When people say that they have found god or that they had a spiritual awakening... I did. It is so unimaginably amazing sensation I fell. But im not feeling nor and i hearing this... I had questioned my belief in any higher gods or power but i understand life now. I can not really say i know the meaning of life nor do i have an answer. Life is like a song Life is all the colors around us Life is all the feelings and emotions that we experience there are reasons for everything in the world.
Just smile and be happy with what you have. You can do anything you want. cause everything is connected. Love your family and friends cause it is just so amazing.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
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Just smile and be happy with what you have. You can do anything you want. cause everything is connected. Love your family and friends cause it is just so amazing.
Some very amazing, and spot on words.
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#15484332 - 12/08/11 04:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just got done reading two books called "Illusions" and "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" by Richard Bach.
Has Anyone read these?
These books really helped me... i don't know... understand what i was going through. Finding faith within myself instead of following a religion. Everyone is a Messiah they just need to understand the meaning of life....
"Here's the test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: If you're alive, it isn't.."
I learned that no one makes mistakes in life. They are the steps to help us go to were we are supposed to go.
If you haven't read these books i really recommend them if you are ever lost in a point in your life with your inner fire. These helped me relight my soul.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15638477 - 01/09/12 04:22 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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hi shrk, i had the same trip the first time i tried. here was my explanation to a friend i tripped with:
I think I'm finally finding the words to express what I experienced. The beginning of the trip was pretty wild: starring into that blue cup and perceiving something like infinite depth, not understanding what the f&ck what was happening in that room of yours, constantly compressing and expanding, losing grasp of what depth is, The space between the couch and the tv was constantly changing, the width of the couch kept changing, starring at my hands covered in hair, putting my hands into my pockets and thinking they were made out of sand paper. Then i get my ass handed to me on a silver platter. at the time, I believed all of this 100%...
you leaned over and said to me," you think you can control me?" "you think you can control this trip?", with that passive, rhetorical-question-voice you always use when getting mockingly philosophical. then you handed me the remote to the tv. those 2 questions and that action flipped a switch in the entire experience, I immediately stopped believing that you were you. My internal dialogue was something like 'wait... I'm not doing mush? wait wait.... what the hell is going on.'
I felt like my entire life had led up to this point, regardless of me doing shrooms. I thought that 'you' were in disguise. 'you' were a sort of insane quantum being pleased with your creation of madness, understanding that everything you had made was lie, that once the lie was discovered by 'me', it would annihilate my sense of reason and purpose in my 'life'.
this is why i never responded you anything you said to me during the trip and why i just sat there with my chin on my fist. i was going insane.
Everything I had thought I experienced in my life never happened. All of my relationships and friends and family never existed. Anything related to 'my self' never was. I didn't believe in matter, time, and the idea of families relationships and ultimately person-hood. then, when I stopped believing in my internal voice that was analyzing all this making these decisions about what was truth. then i thought, 'wait, nothing was ever meant to exist?' That's when I thought I was permanently insane, never to return. Lost forever in the quantum wilderness of infinitely meaningless illusion-realities 'you' had constructed for 'me'. I was stuck in non-existence. in that place, even the idea of non-existence wasn't supposed to exist.
coming back was the fucking grace of god. I kept trying to come back but couldn't shake the belief that everything never was. every time i tried, it felt like i just kept winding up in another parallel 'universe'. like 'you' had drawn 'me' on every page of an infinite post-it note stack, every time i tried to come back was you flipping to the next page of this sad animation of me never finding truth, taking quantum wave after quantum wave.
somehow i got back, it was very sudden. then i proceeded to hug your couch in joy of existence, on the verge of tears.
i couldn't sleep that night. too shook up. the entire next week i was trying to crystallize any lessons i could from the negative experience. all i got was life/existence is a holy gift. ***** then one night (about a full week later) i wake up in the middle of the night and get the same bad trip experience. i dont hear or see anything that would indicate 'tripping', it was just a feeling. 'you' were back again, you were observing 'me' all that week, laughing at me thinking that i could get away. it lasted only a few seconds. ***** this resulted in a month of panic attacks thinking i was slowly going insane. being TERRIFIED of falling asleep, leading to very irregular sleep schedules. staying up for 48 hours at a time. being afraid of the fear of thinking the same thing for eternity.
the only thing that brought closure to what i consider a month long bad trip was thinking about the concept of love. awww, a happy ending
i've done research since then, this type of experience is called depersonalization and derealization. consistant experience when you take a class of drugs termed deliriants and dissociatives. rare when you take psilocybin.
hope this helps shrk
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15648231 - 01/11/12 12:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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One thing that is for sure is whenever SWIM look back at a fry, Swim always feel amazing giddiness and just think of all the amazement that night. also, NEVER EVER go into a trip with any bad things on your mind, itll always f**k you over. Another thing is, the only way to people can ever slightly relate a trip, or explain is to experiance it together, Good vibes always make it a day to remember
But thats just Swims opinion
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: 3p0]
#15686392 - 01/19/12 12:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I will honestly say i could not finish reading you passage. Almost as if i read that it was meant... I dont know what im saying just shaky because you understand entirely.
When you said that life was a lie and that regardless of taking shrooms or not. Everything action that i did lead up to this moment.
I still have yet to touch any type of drug since then. Don't plan on it either because i don't need them to experience the spirals.
I keep seeing it as God. The higher power in his workings.
I have felt "it" a few times when typing this very reply.
I'm very shaky right now. Thank you for the reply 3p0.
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: 3p0]
#15686398 - 01/19/12 12:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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The joy of existence =) is phenomenal
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15730796 - 01/28/12 07:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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it's been about a year now since I tripped and I definitely have closure on the experience. If you don't, then I guess I would have 2 suggestions for you:
1. Don't feel like you're the only one who has had this happen to them on mushrooms. It will increased your sense of isolation and provide ammo for your fears to be rationalized as true. like my thought process the day after was: "it's impossible for mushrooms to do that, it must have been real". a number of people have these types of trips. I'm not saying its common by any means, but as powerful as it is, it's more common than is comfortable, for sure.
If you go to the bad trip or trainwreck trip section in erowid you can find a few trip reports that show the hallmarks of this derealization/depersonalization experience. Resist any awe at the fact that i "understand entirely". I'm just part of the club that got dealt a shitty hand on my first round of shroom poker, as it were.
The trip we had would basically be solipsism. but whats the main motivator for keeping that belief? the last half of a trip gone wrong and a few flashbacks? so, basically fear. in my opinion, any belief that denies truth denies itself. even if it were true, what are we gonna do? bust out of this shit hole tomorrow?
2. The best thing for me was reading/watching about psychology: Deliriants and depersonalization/derealization on wiki Michael Persinger-Spirit Drugs The Awakening on youtube (there are 5 parts) There's another video that describes the parts of the lymbic system go out of phase with the rest of the brain and triggers either total unreality(meaningless delusion world) or total reality(God) depending on whether its the right side or left side, respectively. it might be described in that video, i forget.
if I remember correctly, you mentioned in a previous post on this thread that these flashbacks started being positive? are they no longer that feeling of dread/forever-alone-ness?
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Re: First Time with shrooms.... it opened my mind [Youtube Vid] [Re: Shrk]
#15730946 - 01/28/12 07:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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according to a Johns Hopkins study, there is sweet spot dosage that is psychologically medicinal, i.e. dealing with dying if your a terminal cancer patient, obsessive-compulsive disorder, cluster headache, general emotional baggage, etc. just search johns hopkins psilocybin study 2011 http://www.newswise.com/articles/study-probes-sacred-mushroom-chemical http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/sebin/s/m/GriffithsPsilocybin.pdf http://csp.org/psilocybin/SciAmHallucinogens201012.pdf
obviously it's all about dosage. too much ethyl(beer) and you cant function in any positive capacity. with the right dosage, you're more honest about your emotions and are more amicable. too much THC and paranoia can occur and memory is jacked. with the right dosage, again, you're more honest about your emotions and are more amicable. too much ibuprofen and your god damned stomach bleeds. right dosage, effect commercial anti-inflammatory. too much psilocyben and you get a big fuckin THE END. the right amount, you can do some do some serious metaphoric house cleaning in you life.
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Reality of the sober mind is a persistent hallucination. Psychedelics alter this state and therefore change our reality. Just because a sober person can see you're trippin' that doesn't mean that your experience isnt real.
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#24321912 - 05/15/17 05:33 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did anyone happen to save this video? I deleted the video years ago and I really want to... undelete it. Im Shrk and i created the video and started this post.
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