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Another suicide bombing
    #1505955 - 04/29/03 10:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Damn extremists


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1506006 - 04/29/03 10:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Homicide bombers are scumbag pussies.... pure and simple.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1506012 - 04/29/03 10:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'd agree with scumbags but pussies? Not really. I'm sure if they had high tech fancy weapons they would be more than happy to use them. Especially if using an apache would brand them as a hero!


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1506058 - 04/29/03 11:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Pussies deliberately target innocents. I stand by the term pussies.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1506072 - 04/29/03 11:17 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I can empathize with the Palestinians, but I can in no way condone what they do.

However, I dont see how Israel bulldozing the homes of the FAMILIES of those who commit such acts will further the peace process or do anything but create more violence.

Honestly, I've given up hope for Middle East peace. Neither side WANTS peace. I dont know what it will take, but I sure hope they find it someday....


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1506083 - 04/29/03 11:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"Pussies deliberately target innocents. I stand by the term pussies."

are we pussies for dropping atomic bombs on cities?


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1506085 - 04/29/03 11:24 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The Israelis took their shit for too long. There should have been more control in Palestine, but there just wasn't, because no one cared. Well, now that Israel told them "enough is enough", NOW they care, and they have no control. Fuck them, peace is great to dream about, but in the real world, you don't let your country and family members die because of politics, and peace.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1506296 - 04/30/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The Palestinians have no other means of resistance against Israeli tyranny. Instead they target zionists, as opposed to the hard-to-kill Israeli soldier. However, terrorism is not a solution and this recent bombing was pretty pointless considering how closer the Palestinians are moving towards statehood. This bombing though was probably extremely difficult for them to pull off but they did it.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: CeeEssGee]
    #1506301 - 04/30/03 12:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, IES!


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Zahid]
    #1506595 - 04/30/03 03:06 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Uh those arent suicide bombing they are genocide bombings. Palistinians bombers are peices of shit.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1506890 - 04/30/03 07:47 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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However, I dont see how Israel bulldozing the homes of the FAMILIES of those who commit such acts will further the peace process or do anything but create more violence




But ya gotta admit, it is effective. Maybe people should think before they consider blowing up people in the name of "fill in the blank".

Homocide bombers are the scum of the Earth.

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I don't know what it will take




total annihilation of one side or the other, unfortunately


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: ]
    #1506893 - 04/30/03 07:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

most definately.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1506906 - 04/30/03 07:59 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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total annihilation of one side or the other, unfortunately




Sad, but very true.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1506928 - 04/30/03 08:32 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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However, I dont see how Israel bulldozing the homes of the FAMILIES of those who commit such acts will further the peace process or do anything but create more violence


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But ya gotta admit, it is effective. Maybe people should think before they consider blowing up people in the name of "fill in the blank".

Homocide bombers are the scum of the Earth.





Ummm are we labouring undetr the misapprehension that the Israelis only bulldoze the homes of people with links to the bombers?? Wrong.

Those evil fucks driving bulldozers through peoples lives are also the "scum of the earth"


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: CeeEssGee]
    #1506933 - 04/30/03 08:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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The Israelis took their shit for too long.




Didn't the Zionists (read: Israelis) steal the land from the Palestinians with the help of the British Empire? If that is the case, haven't the Palestinians taken $h!t for too long? Suicide bombings targeting civilians is wrong. On the other side, targeting soldiers would seem to be legitimate military targets.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: grib]
    #1506940 - 04/30/03 08:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

People who make statements like:

"The Israelis took their shit for too long."

Normally havent taken the time or trouble to discover the ins and outs of the situation. Then also normally bleat on about UN resolutions relating to Iraq blissfully unaware of the hypocrisy they are spouting!


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: GazzBut]
    #1506941 - 04/30/03 08:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Ummm are we labouring undetr the misapprehension that the Israelis only bulldoze the homes of people with links to the bombers?? Wrong.




can you tell me the REAL reason then? I'm serious because i don't know. If it turns out that the people had ANY part of the bombings then i support it 100%.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1507004 - 04/30/03 09:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"But ya gotta admit, it is effective. Maybe people should think before they consider blowing up people in the name of "fill in the blank"."

Its effective? Really? I seem to see MORE and BIGGER bombings now than before they institued this policy. All the policy, which I'll outline below, does is spread anger and resentment, and allow Israelis to feel a small measure of revenge.

"can you tell me the REAL reason then? I'm serious because i don't know. If it turns out that the people had ANY part of the bombings then i support it 100%."

Although Israel often bulldozes any settlement it deems out-of-bounds, this is the action I was reffering too, in a quote from ABCNews.com

Israel's Supreme Court has ruled in favor of a policy which allows the Israeli military to bulldoze the family homes of suspected terrorists. Since many of those targeted by Israeli army intelligence officers are teenagers still living at home with parents and siblings, the tactic has shifted the burden of the crime from the individual to the family.

If you are zealous and extreme enough in your beliefs to want to blow yourself up, do you really think your families home being destroyed is going to be a deterrent?

And just let me say once more, that I despise suicide/homicide bombings, I am in NO WAY justifying what they do.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1507068 - 04/30/03 10:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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All the policy, which I'll outline below, does is spread anger and resentment, and allow Israelis to feel a small measure of revenge.




So do the homocide bombings. I guarentee that the bulldozings will stop if the bombings do. I dare one of you to say that the bombings will stop if the bulldozing does...you can't because they won't stop.

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Israel's Supreme Court has ruled in favor of a policy which allows the Israeli military to bulldoze the family homes of suspected terrorists. Since many of those targeted by Israeli army intelligence officers are teenagers still living at home with parents and siblings, the tactic has shifted the burden of the crime from the individual to the family.




I'm failing to see the down side here....

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If you are zealous and extreme enough in your beliefs to want to blow yourself up, do you really think your families home being destroyed is going to be a deterrent?




maybe the parents should be doing their job and not praise homocide.

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And just let me say once more, that I despise suicide/ homicide bombings, I am in NO WAY justifying what they do.




which side do you suppose would stop if the other side did? I bet you Isreal would stop first. Do you think they will stop when the palestinians get their own state? I know it won't.


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Re: Another suicide bombing [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1507100 - 04/30/03 11:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,520257,00.html
http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org/israelibulldozing.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/rafah1.html - (An article by an Israeli)

The articles given here point to some of the reasons being i) Furtherment of illegal Israeli settlements ii)Reprisals for Palestinian actions N.B not targeted at specific people linked to any specific crime.


Even if it was directed in some way, would you still say it was fair to bulldoze down the house of a bombers family? How do you know the wife and children didnt beg him not to do it, were against him doing it? I know many Palestinians see it as a glorious act etc but you cant label all Palestinians because of it. Some Americans think wearing white cloaks and burning "niggers" property is acceptable behaviour. Surely you can see the flaw in the logic which implies all Americans think this is acceptable behaviour?


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