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First Time Making Agar. Quick Question.
    #15059151 - 09/10/11 08:04 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys, I followed the Grocery Store Tek and did everything as it says but this stuff does not look right to me.  It's like the consistency of some really thick apple sauce.  Not clear whatsoever and not runny.  Like I imagine if I dumped this into my petri dishes it would splatter everywhere, it's THICK.

Does it change consistency after you PC it or something?  Even as I read the recipe, 1 cup of water did not seem like much especially because he said it's enough to fill 20 dishes.  1 cup of water really ain't shit, and all of it immediately got absorbed by the 1/4 cup of agar.

Is it supposed to be this way at this stage??


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059325 - 09/10/11 08:47 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Did your agar come already powdered, or did you have to grind it yourself like in the Grocery Store Agar Tek?

If its already powdered its much more accurate to just weigh out 4.5 g.

If you look close at the pic in the Tek, that 1/4 cup is actually still pretty large flakes.
1/4 cup of powder is way more agar than 1/4 cup of flakes.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: SKrink]
    #15059385 - 09/10/11 09:01 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Damn.  Yeah mine was already powdered and I did 1/4 cup.  I guess that could have something to do with it.  Hopefully it works out fine.  It's in the cooker now so we'll see.  I was going to wait for a response on here but wasn't sure if it would come and I was told in the chat on here that after it's pc'd it will be much less viscous.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059409 - 09/10/11 09:06 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

start over and do it again.  that's like enough agar for like 2 liters.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15059499 - 09/10/11 09:20 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Wtf... Please tell me you're kidding!

I thought that tek was supposed to be on point?  When he said grind it in to a powder I was like, shit I'm already there.  God damn it.  I hope I can make it work as is.  Not like it was hard but the only agar I could find was like $7 and I used a good chunk of it.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059526 - 09/10/11 09:26 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

except you're not using the same type of agar.

1 liter of liquid calls for 2 tbsps of agar. 

1/4 cup has 4 tbsps


and you're only using a cup of liquid?


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15059539 - 09/10/11 09:29 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I use:

10 Grams Agar Powder
10 Grams Light Malt Extract
500ML water

This is enough to fill 20 plates if I pour fairly thin.

Just as a bit of a guide, in the back The Mushroom Cultivator(If I remember
correctly)
Paul says that one leveled off tbs of agar powder is = to 7 grams.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15059555 - 09/10/11 09:33 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

So agar ground to a powder and agar that comes powdered is that different when it comes to weighing it out?

Son of a bitch...  Agar I grinded and agar that came ground....  Fuck.  I'm more bummed about wasting the majority of a $7 bottle than I am about having to start over.  Both combined though blows serious ass!


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059562 - 09/10/11 09:35 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I weigh out my agar using a precision kitchen scale. I have used both agar
flakes and powdered agar and their is no different IF you are weighing it
out on a scale.

However volume wise agar flakes take up a lot more space and look bigger
then an equal amount of agar powder.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15059585 - 09/10/11 09:40 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

you could always dilute what you've made, instead of throwing it out.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15059591 - 09/10/11 09:41 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Good to man, thank you for that info.  I wish I had realized that prior and I hope that this thread will save someone else in the future.  And I wouldn't be surprised if it does because that tek is well written but there is no clarity on this issue whatsoever.

I think what I'll do is leave the jar in the PC over night, then put the agar combo into a bowl and add water to it, then refill the jar and re-PC tomorrow and go from there.

Shouldn't be any issues with PC'ing it twice is there?

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you could always dilute what you've made, instead of throwing it out.




Bingo.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059612 - 09/10/11 09:46 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

If you leave it overnight the agar will solidify.

I would suggest letting your PC come down to atmospheric pressure, letting
it cool a bit and then taking your bottle out. Take that bottle and dilute
it down to make 2-3 500ml bottles of agar. Re- PC tonight and then pour
what you can and store the rest of the jars in the refrigerator.

I personally have PC'd a few batches of agar twice in my earlier days and
they turned out fine. Use what you can tonight and then like I said place
the other jars in the refrigerator. When you want to use them place the
jar into a pot of boiling water and heat the agar until it solidifies. MAKE
SURE your jar has a vented cap for air exchange(Be it polyfil, synthetic
filter disc or what have you).

How much Malt Extract did you add, or what is your nutrition for your
agar?


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15059658 - 09/10/11 09:57 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I used half of what the tek called for of potato flakes because a couple people recommended doing that.  As well as honey.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #15059677 - 09/10/11 10:01 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

So you have to much agar powder, but the right amount of honey and potato flakes
that the tek calls for?

You could dilute things and try again, or just scrap it and make up a new
batch.

I have never personally PC'ed Potato honey agar for two runs so I cannot
predict if the sugars will caramelize on you.

I personally would chalk it up to a learning experience and make a new
batch.


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Re: First Time Making Agar. Quick Question. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #15059693 - 09/10/11 10:04 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Damn.  Maybe I'll just do that and wait until tomorrow because I'm pretty tired already and I don't want to get annoyed and have to pour my petri dishes and start my whole grow off with bad vibes.

Sucks but whatever it's super easy to make more.  I only really need enough for like 6 petri dishes right now anyway so diluting the hell out of this would be pointless anyway.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.


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