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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15052597 - 09/09/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Dr Rick Strassman's research is widely discredited by many professionals, and a lot of the conclusions he has arrived to is backed by very little or no evidence.
Also, the links you post are terrible sources of information, I don't want to even comment on the information inside them anyway.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15052602 - 09/09/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

links please
  otherwise your just another mouth to me.
  Thats what it takes then right.  We could have link wars all day long and I can deny your links

  how about the thousands of years the shamans of the Amazon have used Ayahuasca to no ill effect?? Also they live without harming our Earth.  The very thing we need to live and for our children.  Instead we need fast cars with all these plastic parts    yeah thats it.  Lets pollute and kill our unborn babies huh???? 

  WTF???  your a corporate tool

  I see plenty of scientific factual evidence of our modern way of life being the wrong way and harming our planet.
    I see the ones controlling all that totally trying to keep us dumbed down and brainwashed.  I also understand psychedelics can combat the mind control.

  I can put stuff together and knew these things before reading any of it. It should be blatantly obvious to those not dumbed down already.
     

 

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15052684 - 09/09/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What makes Dr. Strassman not "another mouth" to you? Do you want me to find some sources? Okay.
Wikipedia for example states:
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Strassman has not provided much of the explanation for the mechanism's mysterious qualities by which this synthesis could produce levels of DMT that would lead to such effects. Although the necessary constituents (see methyltransferases) needed to make DMT are found in the pineal gland, the enzyme's stereo-specificity only allows for the conversion of serotonin to melatonin and vice versa. Others in the field of neurochemistry have not accepted this explanation of DMT's role in this function due to the absence of supporting evidence (i.e. a plausible synthesis mechanism or direct evidence that DMT is found in higher concentration in the body under these circumstances).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Strassman#Clinical_research_in_Psychoactives

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Selectivity rather than sensitivity proved to be an Achilles’ heel for some TLC methods with the discovery in 1974-1975 that incubating rat blood cells or brain tissue with (14C-CH3)SAM and NMT as substrate mostly yields tetrahydro-β-carboline derivatives,and negligible amounts of DMT in brain tissue. It is indeed simultaneously realized that the TLC methods used thus far in almost all published studies on INMT and DMT biosynthesis are incapable to resolve DMT from those tetrahydro-β-carbolines. These findings are a blow for all previous claims of evidence of INMT activity and DMT biosynthesis in avian and mammalian brain,including in vivo,as they all relied upon use of the problematic TLC methods: their validity is doubted in replication studies that make use of improved TLC methods, and fail to evidence DMT-producing INMT activity in rat and human brain tissues.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine#Evidence_in_mammals

And this is a quote from infamous chemist Nick Sand "InfinitAyes" on his critisisms of Strassman's research and books :
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To hear of doctors dancing on government’s strings for carrots of money, power and prestige, while cringing from whips of criticism and disenfranchisement, during the very act of turning someone on and polluting their trip with this nonsense, strikes me as the height of unconsciousness.


I can link to the many sites that report this quote, but I am unable to find the original source.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15052705 - 09/09/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
links please
  otherwise your just another mouth to me.
  Thats what it takes then right.  We could have link wars all day long and I can deny your links

  how about the thousands of years the shamans of the Amazon have used Ayahuasca to no ill effect?? Also they live without harming our Earth.  The very thing we need to live and for our children.  Instead we need fast cars with all these plastic parts    yeah thats it.  Lets pollute and kill our unborn babies huh???? 

  WTF???  your a corporate tool

  I see plenty of scientific factual evidence of our modern way of life being the wrong way and harming our planet.
    I see the ones controlling all that totally trying to keep us dumbed down and brainwashed.  I also understand psychedelics can combat the mind control.

  I can put stuff together and knew these things before reading any of it. It should be blatantly obvious to those not dumbed down already.
     

 



Corporate tool? Did you know Rick sells his "research" in books that are made easier to read by making everything fit into one story? He makes good money from it too. If he isn't lying and actually wants to contribute to the scientific community and raise public knowledge, he should explain how he arrived to his "findings".
Stop putting words in my mouth, just because drugs don't affect me "spiritually" and I also take all pieces of research with pinches (and sometimes, hand-fulls) of salt, doesn't mean I don't have moral values.
You do also know that many people (actually, pretty much the majority of the world's population) do not give a fuck about psychedelic drugs, and also, many people who try psychedelics really dislike it's effects. Psychedelics will never change the world at such a significant level you hope for.

Edited by Fronnis (09/09/11 11:33 AM)

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15052981 - 09/09/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

like I said link wars  bla blaaaa blaaaa  this persons info is bunk blablabla
  Theres many helpfull things psychedelics can do other than the things I stated.    Dont act like its fucking satan because you know it as well as I do they can be a good thing if used the right way.
  How about cluster headaches??  DId you ever get them?? Know what the best medecine for them is??  Look into it. Find your own fucking links about it.
    Spinal arthritis??? 
  I know from personal experience what it is like and what makes me feel better.  Yeah good enough to get up and do things. Good enough to work.

    You have no fucking idea

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15052986 - 09/09/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Fronnis said:
You do also know that many people (actually, pretty much the majority of the world's population) do not give a fuck about psychedelic drugs, and also, many people who try psychedelics really dislike it's effects. Psychedelics will never change the world at such a significant level you hope for.




  Thats because they have been dumbed down.
  Who said I wanna change the world??  It will change itself and the way it is headed from pig headed disinfo agent assholes like you it is destruction. 
  Dont think so??? Look around you. Look at the plastic trash piles in the oceans. Look at the dead Gulf we ruined.  Look at the can of worms in Japan.    Overpoplulation, man made disease and plagues. Nuclear weapons and biological agents.

  Yeah  I know what most of the world is doing asshole. I see it in the news everyday. Very fucking discusting if you take a step back and look.
    Bunch of zombies
  I know what the majority of the worlds population do.
  Sickening gross fucking site.
   

Edited by cpw1971 (09/09/11 12:44 PM)

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15053004 - 09/09/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
like I said link wars  bla blaaaa blaaaa  this persons info is bunk blablabla
  Theres many helpfull things psychedelics can do other than the things I stated.    Dont act like its fucking satan because you know it as well as I do they can be a good thing if used the right way.
  How about cluster headaches??  DId you ever get them?? Know what the best medecine for them is??  Look into it. Find your own fucking links about it.
    Spinal arthritis??? 
  I know from personal experience what it is like and what makes me feel better.  Yeah good enough to get up and do things. Good enough to work.

    You have no fucking idea



You don't know my experiences, and are supposing too much from what I am saying.
I never said there are no medical benefits, actually, I get great relief of my OCD whilst tripping and it gives me temporary relief of my S.A.D during the winter, what is your point? It's not unheard of for drugs to have medical benefit, what makes psychedelics anything special?


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15053009 - 09/09/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
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Fronnis said:
You do also know that many people (actually, pretty much the majority of the world's population) do not give a fuck about psychedelic drugs, and also, many people who try psychedelics really dislike it's effects. Psychedelics will never change the world at such a significant level you hope for.




  Thats because they have been dumbed down.
  Who said I wanna change the world??  It will change itself and the way it is headed from pig headed assholes like you it is destruction.



Dumbed down for not liking a DRUG? Are you joking? Don't you think people can be happy with their lives without the drugs you like?


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15053025 - 09/09/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Fronnis said:
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cpw1971 said:
like I said link wars  bla blaaaa blaaaa  this persons info is bunk blablabla
  Theres many helpfull things psychedelics can do other than the things I stated.    Dont act like its fucking satan because you know it as well as I do they can be a good thing if used the right way.
  How about cluster headaches??  DId you ever get them?? Know what the best medecine for them is??  Look into it. Find your own fucking links about it.
    Spinal arthritis??? 
  I know from personal experience what it is like and what makes me feel better.  Yeah good enough to get up and do things. Good enough to work.

    You have no fucking idea



You don't know my experiences, and are supposing too much from what I am saying.
I never said there are no medical benefits, actually, I get great relief of my OCD whilst tripping and it gives me temporary relief of my S.A.D during the winter, what is your point? It's not unheard of for drugs to have medical benefit, what makes psychedelics anything special?



  Go ask the shamans of the amazon who have been using them for thousands of years what makes them special. Really man go do it.
    Let your big ego step aside whilst you get your answer from them.  With your big ego in the way it blocks information from coming in.

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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15053027 - 09/09/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You keep on adding new points by editing, I can't answer everything properly and it keeps on bumping this thread. If you want, we can continue this through PM'ing.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: grizzlynick]
    #15053043 - 09/09/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Fronnis said:
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cpw1971 said:
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Fronnis said:
You do also know that many people (actually, pretty much the majority of the world's population) do not give a fuck about psychedelic drugs, and also, many people who try psychedelics really dislike it's effects. Psychedelics will never change the world at such a significant level you hope for.




  Thats because they have been dumbed down.
  Who said I wanna change the world??  It will change itself and the way it is headed from pig headed assholes like you it is destruction.



Dumbed down for not liking a DRUG? Are you joking? Don't you think people can be happy with their lives without the drugs you like?



 
have you read all my posts??  I said before choose your own reality.  But to block info from others is bullshit.  You getting to be an asshole. 
    They are dumbed down yes but that doesn mean I want them to do psychedelics.  MORON
  Dont PM me  I'll block you

  done  ignore is GREAT  huh??? weeeeeeee


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15053060 - 09/09/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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cpw1971 said:
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Fronnis said:
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cpw1971 said:
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Fronnis said:
You do also know that many people (actually, pretty much the majority of the world's population) do not give a fuck about psychedelic drugs, and also, many people who try psychedelics really dislike it's effects. Psychedelics will never change the world at such a significant level you hope for.




  Thats because they have been dumbed down.
  Who said I wanna change the world??  It will change itself and the way it is headed from pig headed assholes like you it is destruction.



Dumbed down for not liking a DRUG? Are you joking? Don't you think people can be happy with their lives without the drugs you like?



 
have you read all my posts??  I said before choose your own reality.  But to block info from others is bullshit.  You getting to be an asshole. 
    They are dumbed down yes but that doesn mean I want them to do psychedelics.  MORON



I enjoy expressing my opinion, views and experiences, and you seem to enjoy it too, otherwise, why would you even bother with me? You are also "blocking" information from me, what is your point here again?
Now you are even calling me a moron! When did I say you wanted people to take psychedelics?


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: cpw1971]
    #15053069 - 09/09/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Dont PM me  I'll block you

done  ignore is GREAT  huh??? weeeeeeee





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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: Fronnis]
    #15054087 - 09/09/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Those last ten or so posts were pretty fucking funny. I love the people on this site.


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Re: JOE MOLLOY is right [Re: grizzlynick]
    #15054728 - 09/09/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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