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BTL99
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Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea?
#15039636 - 09/06/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039657 - 09/06/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not in my experience. In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: mundane]
#15039693 - 09/06/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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mundane said: Not in my experience. In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.
So, do you put your shrooms in the boiling water? Or do you boil the water and then take it off the heat and then put your shrooms in?
Also, how long do you let them sit in the water?
Thanks.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039712 - 09/06/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil water in a cup in the microwave. Then I take powered shrooms and add to the water. I let them steep for about 15mins then strain. I then add instant apple cider mix. (of course you can flavor however you like)
While I'm chugging down that cup I repeat the process with the same shroom powder to make sure I got all the goodies.
This is now the only way I consume mushrooms. Its awesome and has never let me down!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy] 1
#15039754 - 09/06/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heat water in a kettle, like for any other tea. Put powdered shrooms in a cup with a bag of mint tea. Steep for ten minutes, strain through a coffee filter, drink. You can repeat like kyguy guy said for a second cup, but one cup's enough. After taking them a bunch of different ways, this is by far my favorite.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039776 - 09/06/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039814 - 09/06/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.
np man, enjoy! Let us know how you like it.
I think for my next trip I'll try it with mint tea. I'm getting kinda burnt out on apple cider.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy]
#15040521 - 09/06/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil the water and then turn it down to simmer on the lowest setting. I then toss in chopped up fresh mushroom pieces and let steep for 20 minutes. I strain this through a mesh strainer I have and then I strain that into a coffee filter. This filters all the bits and even the verm that gets stuck to the stems. Pour into a glass and add sugar and vanilla extract to taste. The less water you use, the less you'll have to drink, but the darker the tea will taste. At any point after the tea is made you can mix your choice of ingredients such as ginger, lemon, or mint.
With tea, I've found that very little potency is lost, but the trip comes on much quicker and much harder, but doesn't last as long as eating the caps.
Once the tea is finished steeping, it should have a nice golden color. The darker the tea, the more potent it will be. I've done this with as little as ~1 gram and as much as ~10 grams (split between two people)
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: carnage11]
#15040862 - 09/07/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grinding your mushrooms in a coffee grinder is the way to go! Just started recently and I love it. Fast easy and efficient!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: clarenceecho]
#15041722 - 09/07/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks for those ideas.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15041997 - 09/07/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
Actually none at all if you do it right. And that means adding some fruit acid to the steep - you need this to keep from degrading the psilocin and to pull it into solution - psilocybin is readily soluble in hot tap water but psilocin is not (see Gold). A bit of citric acid (cheap at any natural food store) or some lemon juice will do it.
Check my sig's tea tek for a sure fire method that I use all the time. Strain all the spent shrooms out, you don't need or want to ingest the indigestible chitin. Since you get no nausea you can up the dose to where it lasts longer - it's already much more peaky.
Enjoy!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15042179 - 09/07/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Think you loose a little... But probably not enough to notice if you do it right
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: HarryL]
#15045872 - 09/07/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man, I am gonna try and find some citric acid for my tea.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15046366 - 09/08/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMHO, tea is the best way to injest, hands down. I've found that eating whole fruits can cause my stomach to turn, where as finely ground powders that I can break down fast don't give my guts a workover... just gas usually. But then to make tea from the powder, is tops. You don't have the shitty cardboard flavor, and it kicks in faster because digesting tea is easier and quicker than fruitbodies.
But in regards to potency? Well consider that the active ingredients are hydrophillic and practically melt into the hot water upon contact. They much prefer an environment of water than dried out fungus, as thats how they grew. I think of the fruitbody as merely a vessel and not a necessary thing.
Oh, and toss the leftover garbage, you got your fun out of them
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen] 1
#15046940 - 09/08/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man. Makes sense.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15048779 - 09/08/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049067 - 09/08/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil water in the microwave and pour it into a mason jar. I add 3.5 grams dries cubensis to a mesh tea-ball (available for 99c at wal-mart) I add tea ball to boiling water ensuring it gets soaked and sinks. I let steep for 1 hour with metal lid on jar allowing just a small vent. I remove tea ball and squeeze remaining juice from mushrooms. Discard mushrooms. Tea is light yellowish or brownish. Mix with a bit of pre-made grape kool-aid mix. Chill. Enjoy 
Hope that helps in some way. I usually bottle 12oz at a time in grape gatorade mini bottles
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049073 - 09/08/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Han Jeremy said:
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Yes, I forgot to mention I always add a good amount of lemon juice to my tea.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049300 - 09/08/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water. Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. 
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15049341 - 09/08/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water. Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. 
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So um... Would using a water filter at the faucet fix this problem? Cuz I seem to notice that my tea is stronger here than it was in my old apartment without a filter. Never thought of it til now though.
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