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Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea?
    #15039636 - 09/06/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15039657 - 09/06/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Not in my experience.  In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: mundane]
    #15039693 - 09/06/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Not in my experience.  In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.




So, do you put your shrooms in the boiling water? Or do you boil the water and then take it off the heat and then put your shrooms in?

Also, how long do you let them sit in the water?

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15039712 - 09/06/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I boil water in a cup in the microwave. Then I take powered shrooms and add to the water. I let them steep for about 15mins then strain. I then add  instant apple cider mix. (of course you can flavor however you like)

While I'm chugging down that cup I repeat the process with the same shroom powder to make sure I got all the goodies.

This is now the only way I consume mushrooms. Its awesome and has never let me down!


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy] * 1
    #15039754 - 09/06/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I heat water in a kettle, like for any other tea.  Put powdered shrooms in a cup with a bag of mint tea.  Steep for ten minutes, strain through a coffee filter, drink.  You can repeat like kyguy guy said for a second cup, but one cup's enough.  After taking them a bunch of different ways, this is by far my favorite.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15039776 - 09/06/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15039814 - 09/06/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.




np man, enjoy! Let us know how you like it.

I think for my next trip I'll try it with mint tea. I'm getting kinda burnt out on apple cider.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy]
    #15040521 - 09/06/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I boil the water and then turn it down to simmer on the lowest setting.  I then toss in chopped up fresh mushroom pieces and let steep for 20 minutes.  I strain this through a mesh strainer I have and then I strain that into a coffee filter.  This filters all the bits and even the verm that gets stuck to the stems.  Pour into a glass and add sugar and vanilla extract to taste.  The less water you use, the less you'll have to drink, but the darker the tea will taste. At any point after the tea is made you can mix your choice of ingredients such as ginger, lemon, or mint.

With tea, I've found that very little potency is lost, but the trip comes on much quicker and much harder, but doesn't last as long as eating the caps.

Once the tea is finished steeping, it should have a nice golden color. The darker the tea, the more potent it will be. I've done this with as little as ~1 gram and as much as ~10 grams (split between two people)


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: carnage11]
    #15040862 - 09/07/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Grinding your mushrooms in a coffee grinder is the way to go! Just started recently and I love it. Fast easy and efficient!


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: clarenceecho]
    #15041722 - 09/07/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Cool, thanks for those ideas.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15041997 - 09/07/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?




Actually none at all if you do it right.  And that means adding some fruit acid to the steep - you need this to keep from degrading the psilocin and to pull it into solution - psilocybin is readily soluble in hot tap water but psilocin is not (see Gold).  A bit of citric acid (cheap at any natural food store) or some lemon juice will do it.

Check my sig's tea tek for a sure fire method that I use all the time.  Strain all the spent shrooms out, you don't need or want to ingest the indigestible chitin.  Since you get no nausea you can up the dose to where it lasts longer - it's already much more peaky. 

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #15042179 - 09/07/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Think you loose a little... But probably not enough to notice if you do it right


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: HarryL]
    #15045872 - 09/07/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man, I am gonna try and find some citric acid for my tea.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15046366 - 09/08/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

IMHO, tea is the best way to injest, hands down. I've found that eating whole fruits can cause my stomach to turn, where as finely ground powders that I can break down fast don't give my guts a workover... just gas usually. But then to make tea from the powder, is tops. You don't have the shitty cardboard flavor, and it kicks in faster because digesting tea is easier and quicker than fruitbodies.

But in regards to potency? Well consider that the active ingredients are hydrophillic and practically melt into the hot water upon contact. They much prefer an environment of water than dried out fungus, as thats how they grew. I think of the fruitbody as merely a vessel and not a necessary thing.

Oh, and toss the leftover garbage, you got your fun out of them :wink:


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen] * 1
    #15046940 - 09/08/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks man. Makes sense.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15048779 - 09/08/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?




some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know  prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
    #15049067 - 09/08/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I boil water in the microwave and pour it into a mason jar.
I add 3.5 grams dries cubensis to a mesh tea-ball (available for 99c at wal-mart)
I add tea ball to boiling water ensuring it gets soaked and sinks.
I let steep for 1 hour with metal lid on jar allowing just a small vent.
I remove tea ball and squeeze remaining juice from mushrooms.
Discard mushrooms.
Tea is light yellowish or brownish.
Mix with a bit of pre-made grape kool-aid mix.
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Enjoy :smile:

Hope that helps in some way. I usually bottle 12oz at a time in grape gatorade mini bottles :smirk:


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
    #15049073 - 09/08/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?




some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know  prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.




Yes, I forgot to mention I always add a good amount of lemon juice to my tea.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
    #15049300 - 09/08/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.




Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water.  Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. :awecid:

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #15049341 - 09/08/11 05:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.




Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water.  Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. :awecid:

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So um... Would using a water filter at the faucet fix this problem? Cuz I seem to notice that my tea is stronger here than it was in my old apartment without a filter. Never thought of it til now though.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Toofpaste]
    #15049704 - 09/08/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.




Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water.  Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. :awecid:

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So um... Would using a water filter at the faucet fix this problem? Cuz I seem to notice that my tea is stronger here than it was in my old apartment without a filter. Never thought of it til now though.




hummm now you got me thinking, because I always use bottled purified drinking water for no other reason than that's what my girl buys. But I have made tea without lemon juice before because I was out, and I still tripped. If I recall correctly I didn't trip as hard as I thought I should have that time though.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy]
    #15049967 - 09/08/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Time to experiment methinks... Hehehe


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Toofpaste]
    #15050113 - 09/08/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Primal,

How much citric acid do you like to put in your tea? Also, do you put it in the water before you add the mushrooms or after?

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Toofpaste]
    #15050928 - 09/08/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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So um... Would using a water filter at the faucet fix this problem? Cuz I seem to notice that my tea is stronger here than it was in my old apartment without a filter. Never thought of it til now though.




No, we're talking pH as in making the tea water acidic with some citric acid or lemon juice.  Just try it once and you'll see the difference. :Awemush:

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15050945 - 09/08/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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How much citric acid do you like to put in your tea? Also, do you put it in the water before you add the mushrooms or after?




A few gms for tea made from a couple hundred gms of fresh shrooms and maybe 50 ccs of water.  Definitely add it first, if you don't the oxidation of bluing fruits goes to completion before the psilocin gets into the solution and you lose it.  The extraction starts to work at room temp but boiling increases the speed greatly while not hurting any of the actives.

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #15051151 - 09/08/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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How much citric acid do you like to put in your tea? Also, do you put it in the water before you add the mushrooms or after?



couple hundred gms of fresh shrooms and maybe 50 ccs of water.




Jesus christ that is really strong. A couple hundred fresh grams for .21 cups of tea? sounds overkill


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #15052587 - 09/09/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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A couple hundred fresh grams for .21 cups of tea?




:lol: Well maybe I didn't explain that fully - you start with fresh (200g) and add water (50g) and you get a lot of the water from the mushrooms (about 100g) and the tea water for a total of around 150g after straining and pressing the shrooms in the strainer. So that's a half cup of tea to scarf down - it's only overkill if you don't have my daily tolerance.

It works out to 3-4 shots with a fruit juice chaser, and then it's off to the races. :Awemush:

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15052663 - 09/09/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Hi.

I have maken mushroom tea with coffee maker and I don't think there is so much of loss of potency as tea. Ofc if you eat whole mushrooms you get all psychedelics to your stomach.

Mushrooms what I have grinded and mixed with tea of coffee is local wild mushroom like p. semilanceata and p. subs. Works for me.

Hard to say how much loss of potency there is but allways my tea have given nice psychedelic effects.

I think the trick is that there is no need go boil them in a water for a long period of time like mescaline.

Easy thing to make mushroom tea is making filter and pour hot water throug from filter and the water have psilocybine on it. But my coffee maker makes that for me. Only thing what I have noticed that the spores need to be taken somehow away from mushrooms before filter them cause probably they makes coffee filters to keep liquid inside the filter and it does not drop down.

I don't know do the potency of mushrooms gone if you boil too long time them in water, but what I know is that: Hot water through the filter and here it is! I don't actually know what happens to psilocybine if it is too long in hot water.

...Still, I have maken tea and eat them as raw and dryed and i have not noticed any different of potency..


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: intelligentlife]
    #15052963 - 09/09/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't actually know what happens to psilocybine if it is too long in hot water.




Nothing happens to it.  It's stable far above boiling.

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #15053606 - 09/09/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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A couple hundred fresh grams for .21 cups of tea?



it's only overkill if you don't have my daily tolerance.





LOL well I sure don't... I usually only dose 1-1.5 dry grams or 10-15 fresh. I have high blood pressure so its kind of unpleasant to go full on. Your dose would make me go cry in a dark closest for 10 hours.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen]
    #15055546 - 09/09/11 08:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Primal,

How long do you like to leave the mushrooms in the water to steep?


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15056676 - 09/10/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

An easy question. :smile: As long as possible.  If I'm going to dose on 'em then it's maybe 5 minutes, but up to 30 works fine IME.  I don't detect much difference, so the first few minutes do the main work I think.

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15056680 - 09/10/11 03:27 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?





i think with most tea brewing methods you wont get evey single bit out of the mushrooms. so as to say, eating the same dose and making tea of it, the tea will probably be a lesser experience, however, i compensate for this by just brewing with more mushrooms to begin with.

as other people have said, the onset from tea is faster and wears off faster, but i definately think eating the mushrooms hits harder, thats just my 2 cents though


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #15057150 - 09/10/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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An easy question. :smile: As long as possible.  If I'm going to dose on 'em then it's maybe 5 minutes, but up to 30 works fine IME.  I don't detect much difference, so the first few minutes do the main work I think.

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15057155 - 09/10/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?





i think with most tea brewing methods you wont get evey single bit out of the mushrooms. so as to say, eating the same dose and making tea of it, the tea will probably be a lesser experience, however, i compensate for this by just brewing with more mushrooms to begin with.

as other people have said, the onset from tea is faster and wears off faster, but i definately think eating the mushrooms hits harder, thats just my 2 cents though




Yeah man, I feel like eating the mushrooms probably give you the longest trip possible, but I ate 7 grams of PE last week and it fucked my stomach up. So, that got me looking into the Tea.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15057163 - 09/10/11 09:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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    #15059026 - 09/10/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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jeez. 7 grams of PE is a heavy dose




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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
    #15059429 - 09/10/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I agree that tea can feel stronger because the come up is insanely fast (especially on an empty stomach. But in reality the trip is most likely 'stronger' (more good stuff absorbed) when eaten dried/raw.
Mushrooms don't last quite as long for me as my other half, after drinking tea I feel almost baseline after three or four hours, while eating lasts five to seven. A good way to potentiate a trip with tea is by drinking it more slowly. You can also re-dose two hours after you start drinking to make your plateau longer. This is what my other half and I prefer. We also break our doses up. Brew the first half, chug it. Brew the second half after, chug it. Then two hours or so later drink another full dose for another 2-3 hour extension. Of course you'll consume twice the mushies, but if your trip is worth extending go for it.
My two reasons for tea are ease of ingestion and digestion. I gag with fresh and dry, but capsules work great for me. My other half loves capsules but her stomach is terribly upset the entire trip, so we make hot chocolate for her (not a tea lover)
I always add lemon juice, people will say it makes it stronger. Whether it's placebo or not I don't know, but it seems to work so I do it.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: DemonicDonut]
    #15060329 - 09/10/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I could not physically eat the amount of shrooms I do as tea in an ordinary week. :laugh2:

But I've had 8 hour trips on tea, with peak plateaus lasting at least a couple hours.:awesomenod:

And double dosing can be wicked incredible, had one of those last summer that was definitely out there.

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    #15060339 - 09/10/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

try some caapi with ur mushrooms next time, its a secret, dont take too much though :yesnod:


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    #15061165 - 09/11/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You know, I don't mind the flavor of mushrooms at all. Fresh, dry... whatever. I'll eat 'em straight. From the looks on my friend's faces when we do eat the shrooms straight, I'm in the minority.

There is no denying tea tastes better. I have problems with shrooms & oj (Diff'rent strokes I guess...) those flavors don't mix well for me. But I just love the taste of tea.

Fortunately for me, I have a fictional friend by the name of Don Quixote. Don is a shroom chef of sorts. Don Quixote is a smart guy but he always thinks with his stomach. Even better for me, Don Quixote is always up for an adventure.

Don highly suggests mint tea. Although he has succeeded with many different types of tea (licorice comes in 2nd), mint manages to completely cover the flavor of the mushrooms, while still tasting very mild. Mint tea, also, sooths the stomach. Don puts the shroom tea in empty, individual sized, Snapple Iced Tea Bottles. If he can't have it hot, Don Quixote likes his tea cold. Lukewarm tea isn't very enjoyable.

This ain't no sippin' tea.

Make sure you don't use too much water or you won't be able to fit it all into your individual sized Snapple bottles. To prepare water to boil or cold filter, Don uses a Snapple bottle filled 2/3, per adventurer, per batch of tea. This will be enough water to hold any sized dose.

You have options when you make tea, you can strain the shrooms out or grind them up and leave them in. Rule of thumb, if you are making a batch of tea for a bunch of friends, strain it. You want to minimize their stomach discomfort. It also, looks more palatable. If you are making tea for yourself or for experienced shroomers, there is nothing wrong with grinding the shrooms and just leaving them in. In fact, it may be a little more potent.

If the shrooms are dry, the psylocin is mostly gone. Don, usually makes his tea with dry mushies because the process is MUCH faster than with fresh shrooms... you can dry fresh shrooms yourself and get hot tea quicker than you can cold-filter it. Still cold-filtered tea is certainly worth trying. For dry mushrooms, DQ just boils some lemon water. Lemon can be very helpful when you want to make sure you extract the most from your dried shrooms in the shortest amount of time. You don't want so much lemon that the tea is overpowered by the flavor. He then adds shrooms in a tea ball right after his water has been brought to a boil and the stove is shut off. Don adds 1 or 2 bags of mint tea per adventurer. Don says mint tea soothes the stomach, tastes great AND it is less filling. He steeps for 10-15 minutes and pours the servings into their respective bottles. Psylocybin can handle this short burst of heat. Don Quixote has NEVER noticed a drop in potency from cooking tea unless he used fresh shrooms. When using dry shrooms, DQ doesn't mind using shroom powder. This way you injest the entire shroom but it makes the tea a little cloudy. It is little more potent and a little less discrete.

With fresh shrooms, Don likes cold-filtering his tea with lemon water. Don puts enough lemon juice in the water to taste it. The lemon juice will put the lemon's acids to work for you. Psylocybin will extract in straight water but Don likes to get everything he can from his mushies. Lemon speeds up the extraction process. Don adds his chopped, fresh mushrooms. Add all the shrooms you will use (5g of shrooms extracted into tea is still as potent as 5g of shrooms). Don adds the tea bags. Don Quixote lets the shroom and lemon water sit in the fridge 24-48 hours, then he strains the slimy shrooms out before pouring each serving into the Snapple bottles. Clean fingers make a great strainer... just don't tell your friends. In theory, Don preserves the psylocin from the fresh shrooms by cold-filtering them in the fridge. This is a pretty slow and simple process. Be sure to stir your tea a few times while you cold filter.

Fresh mushies and oj is a quicker and simpler tek. Eating the shrooms straight is the simplest and fastet tek... but if you want something that REALY tastes good, try the tea.

I don't mind the taste of shrooms but I love the taste of Don Quixote's mint & mushroom tea. Mint covers any hint of mushroom in the tea, yet mint has a very mild flavor.

Don's stomach loves honey (I wonder if Winnie the Pooh likes chasing windmills... er, fighting giants as much as Don Quixote enjoys honey). Don suggests you add honey to any and all shroom tea. Hey, shrooms like honey and honey likes shrooms. Don likes to think mushrooms begin and end with honey. Don Quixote is a big fan of the honeywater tek.

The beauty of the Don's mint tea is you can make a batch that is perfectly potent for everyone who drinks it. All you have to do is measure each person's dose in their own personalized Snapple Iced Tea bottle (write each tripper's name on their bottle so you can keep track of whose is whose... this is especially important if some adventurers are taking larger doses than others). If you put the mushroom tea in a measured pitcher, and you know how many mushrooms were used in the tea, it is very easy to figure out how many grams each adventurer will be taking.

Don Quixote says you can make another batch of mint tea (without mushrooms) to fill the remainder of each Snapple bottle so it looks like the Snapple just came off a store's shelf. Once all the Snapple bottles are full (Snapple sells Mint Iced Tea hehehe), refrigerate until cold and give to your friends.

Drinking tip: If you drink your tea over the course of 30-45 minutes, you can extend your peak for up to an hour. :eyemouth:

Snapple bottles are very inconspicuous and omnipotent. They do not draw undesired attention in public. Even if they do, I imagine this is what might happen.

Officer: What is that?

Don Quixote: Mint Snapple

Officer: May I taste it?

Don Quixote: But of course.

(Officer sips)

Officer: Now THAT'S good Snapple!

(Officer does cheesy Mentos-style smile for the camera)

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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Rose]
    #15061819 - 09/11/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

That reminds me of a story I heard back in high school, which may or may not have been true, but was probably just a myth.  Regardless, it's a funny story.


So it starts out with a guy bringing back a jar of liquid L. He had to go to the next state over to get it, so he was on his way back.  Apparently, this guy was the biggest supplier of LSD in the state, so having a jar of liquid wasn't unbelievable. Anyways, he gets pulled over by a state trooper.  The trooper sees that the guy seems nervous so he asks to search the car.  The trooper finds the jar of Lucy, and thinking it's moonshine decides to dip his finger in and taste (you know like they do in the movies!) The cop decides that it must just be some homemade moonshine and it probably doesn't deserve all the extra paper work, so he let's the guy go.  It was said that the cop probably ingested close to 100 hits of liquid LSD. The guy never saw or heard from the cop again, and no one really knows what happened to him...


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #15062075 - 09/11/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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try some caapi with ur mushrooms next time, its a secret, dont take too much though :yesnod:




Please elaborate on the caapi? Where do you get it?

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    #15067839 - 09/12/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Once when I was making a steak sauce, I had peppers and onions but no button mushrooms.  I did however have some fresh mushrooms lying about at that time.  So I decided to use them.  I order to "destroy" the actives like I'd always heard heat does, I sliced them super thin, sauteed them in oil, then added the other veg and sauteed some more, then I deglazed with wine and added spices and water, then simmered it for an additional 20 or 30 minutes, figuring that with all that cooking, all i would get was flavour.  I was wrong.  I doubt the potency was reduced at all. The few small mushrooms I put in my sauce were more than enough to feel a definite effect a bit less than an hour later.  So don't worry about losing potency through heat-it doesn't make much difference in practical terms.  Do follow that advice above about acidifying the water though.


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PocketRevolution]
    #15068109 - 09/12/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:ilold:

Yup.  Good on burgers too on the open grill, I've heard.

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    #15070501 - 09/12/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yo Primal, I made the tea last night.

Put the juice from 1 whole lemon in the water.

Worked perfect.

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    #15070741 - 09/12/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Good on ya.

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    #15071226 - 09/13/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Super citrusy smoothies work really well too. I get this bad ass lemon and orange one from the gas station across the street, toss that with my dose in the blender, liquify, drink, trip super balls an hour later. Just an alternative to tea but still in liquid form.


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    #15071483 - 09/13/11 03:23 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have noticed about difference of taste of mushrooms teas depends where the mushrooms are come from? Example: Place where I collect P. Semilanceata mushrooms, they really don't have any taste when dryed and when I have maken tea from these (yes, I have put some real tea in to liquid) there are no mushroomlike taste at all.

I Think it's possible depends on mushroom species and place where they grow or where they have been cultivated.

When I make tea from pan. subs. The taste of mushroom comes to the tea. Same thing with P. Cubensis mushrooms what I have eaten and make tea.

Or..? Is it possible that these P. Semilanceata shrooms are so small and the potency of shrooms are like two times stronger like any other mushroom I have eaten?

There is one place I know too where grows P. Semilanceata and they taste like dung and grass. :smirk: ..Never maded tea of these.

Place where I today collect my p. semilanceata mushrooms are cool cause my friend says that liberty caps have little taste of peanuts. But I don't actually taste nothing when eating them or drinking tea from these p. semilanceatas :tongue2:

I fully enjoy of making tea from my liberty caps cause they are so potential and they really don't have a taste in tea if mixed with some real tea. I would say that if someone who don't know that the tea have mushrooms on it he/she do not even taste them. Only this one spot and one liberty cap what I have found have no taste like grass/dung/sand.. Ofcourse there is _something_ what taste but I don't even notice it, only notice that something is in my mounth.

Do anyone have noticed that tea/shrooms tastes different depends where they are from? Even if mushroom are same species taste is different or no taste at all with liberty caps cause they are so small anyway that they can maybe grind and put to capsule to get dose what makes effect. Atleast liberty caps what I have are really potential. :mushroom2:

Mushroom tea is good and fun. Drink'n'trip :thumbup:

These are my tiny shrooms what I use to make tea or eat them like they are in picture :cool:


There are about four dosages of p. semilanceata mushrooms in the picture. Caps are from 5-20mm wide only :crazy2:


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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: intelligentlife]
    #15072297 - 09/13/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

LC tea tastes a LOT better than cube tea, fo' sho.

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    #15206849 - 10/10/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

This is a great thread.  I'm relatively new to these forums and spend all my time in the cultivation section.  I was about to consume some shrooms and your thread gave me the idea of tea.

I took TWO teabags and emptied one of them.  I was feeling the cap I was about to pulverize and realized it was a tad moist.  We all know moisture is the devil when it comes to dried shrooms so I put what I was going to consume into my food dehydrator for 15 minutes and they were perfect.  My rule of thumb is properly dried shrooms should easily crumble in your hands.  Improperly dried shrooms can cause physical problems, at least from what I have read.

Took a small piece of paper and folded it in half.  Crumbled one nice sized cap and one long stem onto the paper fold which allowed me to easily pour it into the emptied teabag.  I refolded the teabag and stapled the string back to it.

This thread educated me about the citric acid and it's effects on the shrooms so I pour a half ounce of OJ into my tea cup.  Figured it's naturally sweet and will give the tea a refreshing orange flavor (and most importantly citric acid).  I put BOTH teabags into the cup and poured boiling water into it.  Let it steep for 10 minutes. Squeezed out both teabags, stirred in my usual aspartime and half 'n half. 

With the relatively small amount of shrooms and use of another teabag plus OJ, cup of tea tasted outstanding.  I wasn't looking to trip my balls off......just wanted exactly what I got.  A nice, brief very slight mind altering 2 hours.  My first time so I wanted to start slow, be in control.  Know exactly how much will do what.  I could have easily added much more to the teabag and had a much more intense, longer "trip".

I actually like the OJ add-on, especially if it helps to convert important chemicals in the shrooms.  Might start doing that to all the teas I have.....add OJ.


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    #15209740 - 10/11/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:  For the best results make tea from fresh picked shrooms.

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    #15209835 - 10/11/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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    #17314066 - 12/01/12 10:26 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

I've been reading a lot that making tea with very hot water destroys the potency, but that's the way my friend always made his tea, with fresh mushrooms. He'd steep them in very hot, not quite boiling water, on a warm burner until the water was black, using a clean sock as a teabag. Then he'd squeeze out the tea bag and throw it away. The tea was usually cut by half with some mixer or other (usually strong kool-aid) and a "red solo cup" full would keep him going for 8 hours or more sometimes. And he's also eaten dried mushrooms and had almost as much of an effect. So I guess I don't understand how almost all of the potency is gone if they're heated or dried. ? With dried, he'd usually just break them into vitamin-sized pieces and swallow them like pills, say, with orange juice.


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    #17314082 - 12/01/12 10:32 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Improperly dried shrooms can cause physical problems, at least from what I have read.






Hi! I haven't seen anything about not-quite-dry dried shrooms. I'm experimenting with drying them myself for the first time. I do not have a dehydrator. I've been spreading them out and letting them air dry until almost dry, then putting them in the oven on very low (less than 100 degrees) to dry out the rest of the way.

But what is this about the "physical problems"? Do tell.


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    #17314399 - 12/01/12 11:52 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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Don't read everything you believe. :thumbup:

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    #17314596 - 12/01/12 12:40 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

LOL, thanks. I was beginning to doubt myself. "How in the world did that work the way I did it, if I did it wrong?" lol. Cue Twilight Zone music. :eek:


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