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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy] 1
#15039754 - 09/06/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heat water in a kettle, like for any other tea. Put powdered shrooms in a cup with a bag of mint tea. Steep for ten minutes, strain through a coffee filter, drink. You can repeat like kyguy guy said for a second cup, but one cup's enough. After taking them a bunch of different ways, this is by far my favorite.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen] 1
#15046940 - 09/08/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man. Makes sense.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99] 1
#15061165 - 09/11/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know, I don't mind the flavor of mushrooms at all. Fresh, dry... whatever. I'll eat 'em straight. From the looks on my friend's faces when we do eat the shrooms straight, I'm in the minority.
There is no denying tea tastes better. I have problems with shrooms & oj (Diff'rent strokes I guess...) those flavors don't mix well for me. But I just love the taste of tea.
Fortunately for me, I have a fictional friend by the name of Don Quixote. Don is a shroom chef of sorts. Don Quixote is a smart guy but he always thinks with his stomach. Even better for me, Don Quixote is always up for an adventure.
Don highly suggests mint tea. Although he has succeeded with many different types of tea (licorice comes in 2nd), mint manages to completely cover the flavor of the mushrooms, while still tasting very mild. Mint tea, also, sooths the stomach. Don puts the shroom tea in empty, individual sized, Snapple Iced Tea Bottles. If he can't have it hot, Don Quixote likes his tea cold. Lukewarm tea isn't very enjoyable.
This ain't no sippin' tea.
Make sure you don't use too much water or you won't be able to fit it all into your individual sized Snapple bottles. To prepare water to boil or cold filter, Don uses a Snapple bottle filled 2/3, per adventurer, per batch of tea. This will be enough water to hold any sized dose.
You have options when you make tea, you can strain the shrooms out or grind them up and leave them in. Rule of thumb, if you are making a batch of tea for a bunch of friends, strain it. You want to minimize their stomach discomfort. It also, looks more palatable. If you are making tea for yourself or for experienced shroomers, there is nothing wrong with grinding the shrooms and just leaving them in. In fact, it may be a little more potent.
If the shrooms are dry, the psylocin is mostly gone. Don, usually makes his tea with dry mushies because the process is MUCH faster than with fresh shrooms... you can dry fresh shrooms yourself and get hot tea quicker than you can cold-filter it. Still cold-filtered tea is certainly worth trying. For dry mushrooms, DQ just boils some lemon water. Lemon can be very helpful when you want to make sure you extract the most from your dried shrooms in the shortest amount of time. You don't want so much lemon that the tea is overpowered by the flavor. He then adds shrooms in a tea ball right after his water has been brought to a boil and the stove is shut off. Don adds 1 or 2 bags of mint tea per adventurer. Don says mint tea soothes the stomach, tastes great AND it is less filling. He steeps for 10-15 minutes and pours the servings into their respective bottles. Psylocybin can handle this short burst of heat. Don Quixote has NEVER noticed a drop in potency from cooking tea unless he used fresh shrooms. When using dry shrooms, DQ doesn't mind using shroom powder. This way you injest the entire shroom but it makes the tea a little cloudy. It is little more potent and a little less discrete.
With fresh shrooms, Don likes cold-filtering his tea with lemon water. Don puts enough lemon juice in the water to taste it. The lemon juice will put the lemon's acids to work for you. Psylocybin will extract in straight water but Don likes to get everything he can from his mushies. Lemon speeds up the extraction process. Don adds his chopped, fresh mushrooms. Add all the shrooms you will use (5g of shrooms extracted into tea is still as potent as 5g of shrooms). Don adds the tea bags. Don Quixote lets the shroom and lemon water sit in the fridge 24-48 hours, then he strains the slimy shrooms out before pouring each serving into the Snapple bottles. Clean fingers make a great strainer... just don't tell your friends. In theory, Don preserves the psylocin from the fresh shrooms by cold-filtering them in the fridge. This is a pretty slow and simple process. Be sure to stir your tea a few times while you cold filter.
Fresh mushies and oj is a quicker and simpler tek. Eating the shrooms straight is the simplest and fastet tek... but if you want something that REALY tastes good, try the tea.
I don't mind the taste of shrooms but I love the taste of Don Quixote's mint & mushroom tea. Mint covers any hint of mushroom in the tea, yet mint has a very mild flavor.
Don's stomach loves honey (I wonder if Winnie the Pooh likes chasing windmills... er, fighting giants as much as Don Quixote enjoys honey). Don suggests you add honey to any and all shroom tea. Hey, shrooms like honey and honey likes shrooms. Don likes to think mushrooms begin and end with honey. Don Quixote is a big fan of the honeywater tek.
The beauty of the Don's mint tea is you can make a batch that is perfectly potent for everyone who drinks it. All you have to do is measure each person's dose in their own personalized Snapple Iced Tea bottle (write each tripper's name on their bottle so you can keep track of whose is whose... this is especially important if some adventurers are taking larger doses than others). If you put the mushroom tea in a measured pitcher, and you know how many mushrooms were used in the tea, it is very easy to figure out how many grams each adventurer will be taking.
Don Quixote says you can make another batch of mint tea (without mushrooms) to fill the remainder of each Snapple bottle so it looks like the Snapple just came off a store's shelf. Once all the Snapple bottles are full (Snapple sells Mint Iced Tea hehehe), refrigerate until cold and give to your friends.
Drinking tip: If you drink your tea over the course of 30-45 minutes, you can extend your peak for up to an hour. 
Snapple bottles are very inconspicuous and omnipotent. They do not draw undesired attention in public. Even if they do, I imagine this is what might happen.
Officer: What is that?
Don Quixote: Mint Snapple
Officer: May I taste it?
Don Quixote: But of course.
(Officer sips)
Officer: Now THAT'S good Snapple!
(Officer does cheesy Mentos-style smile for the camera)
Play music.
Voice Over: Snapple, made from the best stuff on Earth.
Roll credits.
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Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea?
#15039636 - 09/06/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039657 - 09/06/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not in my experience. In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: mundane]
#15039693 - 09/06/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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mundane said: Not in my experience. In fact, tea hits me harder and faster, making it seem more potent.
So, do you put your shrooms in the boiling water? Or do you boil the water and then take it off the heat and then put your shrooms in?
Also, how long do you let them sit in the water?
Thanks.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039712 - 09/06/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil water in a cup in the microwave. Then I take powered shrooms and add to the water. I let them steep for about 15mins then strain. I then add instant apple cider mix. (of course you can flavor however you like)
While I'm chugging down that cup I repeat the process with the same shroom powder to make sure I got all the goodies.
This is now the only way I consume mushrooms. Its awesome and has never let me down!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039776 - 09/06/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15039814 - 09/06/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Wow guys, thanks for those ideas. I will be trying both methods. Thanks.
np man, enjoy! Let us know how you like it.
I think for my next trip I'll try it with mint tea. I'm getting kinda burnt out on apple cider.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: kyguy]
#15040521 - 09/06/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil the water and then turn it down to simmer on the lowest setting. I then toss in chopped up fresh mushroom pieces and let steep for 20 minutes. I strain this through a mesh strainer I have and then I strain that into a coffee filter. This filters all the bits and even the verm that gets stuck to the stems. Pour into a glass and add sugar and vanilla extract to taste. The less water you use, the less you'll have to drink, but the darker the tea will taste. At any point after the tea is made you can mix your choice of ingredients such as ginger, lemon, or mint.
With tea, I've found that very little potency is lost, but the trip comes on much quicker and much harder, but doesn't last as long as eating the caps.
Once the tea is finished steeping, it should have a nice golden color. The darker the tea, the more potent it will be. I've done this with as little as ~1 gram and as much as ~10 grams (split between two people)
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: carnage11]
#15040862 - 09/07/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grinding your mushrooms in a coffee grinder is the way to go! Just started recently and I love it. Fast easy and efficient!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: clarenceecho]
#15041722 - 09/07/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, thanks for those ideas.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15041997 - 09/07/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
Actually none at all if you do it right. And that means adding some fruit acid to the steep - you need this to keep from degrading the psilocin and to pull it into solution - psilocybin is readily soluble in hot tap water but psilocin is not (see Gold). A bit of citric acid (cheap at any natural food store) or some lemon juice will do it.
Check my sig's tea tek for a sure fire method that I use all the time. Strain all the spent shrooms out, you don't need or want to ingest the indigestible chitin. Since you get no nausea you can up the dose to where it lasts longer - it's already much more peaky.
Enjoy!
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#15042179 - 09/07/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Think you loose a little... But probably not enough to notice if you do it right
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: HarryL]
#15045872 - 09/07/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man, I am gonna try and find some citric acid for my tea.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15046366 - 09/08/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMHO, tea is the best way to injest, hands down. I've found that eating whole fruits can cause my stomach to turn, where as finely ground powders that I can break down fast don't give my guts a workover... just gas usually. But then to make tea from the powder, is tops. You don't have the shitty cardboard flavor, and it kicks in faster because digesting tea is easier and quicker than fruitbodies.
But in regards to potency? Well consider that the active ingredients are hydrophillic and practically melt into the hot water upon contact. They much prefer an environment of water than dried out fungus, as thats how they grew. I think of the fruitbody as merely a vessel and not a necessary thing.
Oh, and toss the leftover garbage, you got your fun out of them
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15048779 - 09/08/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049067 - 09/08/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I boil water in the microwave and pour it into a mason jar. I add 3.5 grams dries cubensis to a mesh tea-ball (available for 99c at wal-mart) I add tea ball to boiling water ensuring it gets soaked and sinks. I let steep for 1 hour with metal lid on jar allowing just a small vent. I remove tea ball and squeeze remaining juice from mushrooms. Discard mushrooms. Tea is light yellowish or brownish. Mix with a bit of pre-made grape kool-aid mix. Chill. Enjoy 
Hope that helps in some way. I usually bottle 12oz at a time in grape gatorade mini bottles
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049073 - 09/08/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Han Jeremy said:
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
some people prefer tea,some just eating em, some chocolate. i'd try all the suggestions you get at different times with the same dose, same shrooms, and pick what you liked most. people i know prefer powdering the dry mushrooms and making chocolate. no taste,no waste,and chocolate is a mild maoi, so it will add to the trip a little. btw, i think the person that said add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Yes, I forgot to mention I always add a good amount of lemon juice to my tea.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049300 - 09/08/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water. Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. 
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