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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15041997 - 09/07/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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BTL99 said: Just wondering if you lose a lot of potency when making tea out of your mushrooms?
Actually none at all if you do it right. And that means adding some fruit acid to the steep - you need this to keep from degrading the psilocin and to pull it into solution - psilocybin is readily soluble in hot tap water but psilocin is not (see Gold). A bit of citric acid (cheap at any natural food store) or some lemon juice will do it.
Check my sig's tea tek for a sure fire method that I use all the time. Strain all the spent shrooms out, you don't need or want to ingest the indigestible chitin. Since you get no nausea you can up the dose to where it lasts longer - it's already much more peaky.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Han Jeremy]
#15049300 - 09/08/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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add food grade citric acid when making tea is on the right track, it'll bring the ph down and make the alkaoids more water soluble.
Only needed for the psilocin, which you will otherwise completely waste making tea with neutral pH water. Boil to excess and steep as long as possible, you won't regret it. 
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Toofpaste]
#15050928 - 09/08/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So um... Would using a water filter at the faucet fix this problem? Cuz I seem to notice that my tea is stronger here than it was in my old apartment without a filter. Never thought of it til now though.
No, we're talking pH as in making the tea water acidic with some citric acid or lemon juice. Just try it once and you'll see the difference. 
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15050945 - 09/08/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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How much citric acid do you like to put in your tea? Also, do you put it in the water before you add the mushrooms or after?
A few gms for tea made from a couple hundred gms of fresh shrooms and maybe 50 ccs of water. Definitely add it first, if you don't the oxidation of bluing fruits goes to completion before the psilocin gets into the solution and you lose it. The extraction starts to work at room temp but boiling increases the speed greatly while not hurting any of the actives.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Munchauzen]
#15052587 - 09/09/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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A couple hundred fresh grams for .21 cups of tea?
Well maybe I didn't explain that fully - you start with fresh (200g) and add water (50g) and you get a lot of the water from the mushrooms (about 100g) and the tea water for a total of around 150g after straining and pressing the shrooms in the strainer. So that's a half cup of tea to scarf down - it's only overkill if you don't have my daily tolerance.
It works out to 3-4 shots with a fruit juice chaser, and then it's off to the races. 
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: intelligentlife]
#15052963 - 09/09/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't actually know what happens to psilocybine if it is too long in hot water.
Nothing happens to it. It's stable far above boiling.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15056676 - 09/10/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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An easy question. As long as possible. If I'm going to dose on 'em then it's maybe 5 minutes, but up to 30 works fine IME. I don't detect much difference, so the first few minutes do the main work I think.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: DemonicDonut]
#15060329 - 09/10/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I could not physically eat the amount of shrooms I do as tea in an ordinary week.
But I've had 8 hour trips on tea, with peak plateaus lasting at least a couple hours.
And double dosing can be wicked incredible, had one of those last summer that was definitely out there.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: PocketRevolution]
#15068109 - 09/12/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup. Good on burgers too on the open grill, I've heard.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: BTL99]
#15070741 - 09/12/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good on ya.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: intelligentlife]
#15072297 - 09/13/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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LC tea tastes a LOT better than cube tea, fo' sho.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: JERSEYGROWN]
#15209740 - 10/11/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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For the best results make tea from fresh picked shrooms.
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Re: Do You Lose Potency When Making Mushroom Tea? [Re: Hwy61Meg]
#17314399 - 12/01/12 11:52 AM (11 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been reading a lot that making tea with very hot water destroys the potency,
Don't read everything you believe. 
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