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#1503756 - 04/29/03 09:01 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: grib]
#1503761 - 04/29/03 09:03 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could this be a sign that Saudi Arabia is next on our hit list?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: grib]
#1503773 - 04/29/03 09:08 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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makes sense to me. Why would we leave our people in Suadi, they don't need protecting now.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1503783 - 04/29/03 09:11 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm glad that one of the American administrations has finally realized that having our main Middle East base in a country thats one of the biggest supporters of anti-west terrorism is probably not a good thing.
Now I just wonder, why the fuck did we sink like, 100Mil into building a brand spanking new air base there?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1503795 - 04/29/03 09:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think they ever did...
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1503796 - 04/29/03 09:17 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now I just wonder, why the fuck did we sink like, 100Mil into building a brand spanking new air base there?
Have you heard the term, 'Military Industrial Complex?' How about 'Political Cronyism?'
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Rono]
#1503801 - 04/29/03 09:21 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah. We spent some insane amount of money a few years back to build a Combined Air Operations Center south of Riyadh. I'll post a link when I can find the elusive little thing....
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Rono]
#1503806 - 04/29/03 09:24 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think they ever did...
ever did what?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1503818 - 04/29/03 09:30 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ever did spend a bunch of money a base, is what she was saying, I *believe*
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1503853 - 04/29/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heres a quote from the International Herald Tribune.....Not paste-able..Damn copyrighters...
The United States has approximately 5,500 troops based at Prince Sultan, a sprawling tract of desert that was little more than an air strip during the Gulf War, when Americans began spending hundreds of millions of dollars to transform it into one of its largest bases of operations in the Middle East.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1503854 - 04/29/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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No...I was responding to Invertigo...I was saying that I don't believe they ever did need "protection"...
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1503895 - 04/29/03 10:01 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why would we leave our people in Suadi, they don't need protecting now.
The true reason for the move is because the US has it's own Middle Eastern country now.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: grib]
#1503985 - 04/29/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats amazing news.
Isn't that one of Bin Laden's greivances, that Americans were in Saudi Arabia?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Rono]
#1503990 - 04/29/03 10:44 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was saying that I don't believe they ever did need "protection"...
That's funny, the next thing you're going to say is that Iraq never invaded Kuwait nor Saudi Arabia....i wonder why i was over there then?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: grib]
#1503993 - 04/29/03 10:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its about fucking time we left. We protect their resources and they finance terror, but do we criticize them? Do we say anything about Wahhabism? Do we call them out on human rights viollations? How about the abscence of religious freedom? How about the plight of women and their abscence of rights? I think they are a much worthier of a "hit" than Iraq, there are actual reasons to attack them other than oil, which makes me wonder who might be next, because Syria doesnt have that much oil.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: grib]
#1503996 - 04/29/03 10:45 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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The true reason for the move is because the US has it's own Middle Eastern country now.
yeah that's it...
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1504000 - 04/29/03 10:47 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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he invaded Saudi Arabia? I thought the sat photos of troops on the border were faked, addmitted by the man himself, Norman Swarchkopff (i know i didnt spell that right)
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Buddha5254]
#1504009 - 04/29/03 10:51 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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they invaded the border cities and no they weren't faked (we were the Artillery support) where did you see that it was faked?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1504162 - 04/29/03 11:39 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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"he invaded Saudi Arabia? I thought the sat photos of troops on the border were faked, addmitted by the man himself, Norman Swarchkopff"
No, Saddam Hussein most certainly DID invade Saudi Arabia...For about a day, before he got his ass whooped....i think the deepest penetration was 8 miles?
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Innvertigo]
#1504188 - 04/29/03 11:46 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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If it doesn't support my position, then it was faked.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
#1505787 - 04/29/03 07:24 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: wingnutx]
#1505908 - 04/29/03 08:08 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I didnt say that anything contrary to what I think was faked and I am offended. I should clarify however. After shitloads of our troops were there, he did (saddam) little penetrations to test the Americans, like in Khafji (sp?). This hardly constitutes an invasion, and as it was said he got his ass "whooped" What I was referring to was the photos the Americans showed the Saudis of Iraqi forces massing on the border of Saudi Arabia, which were later admitted to be faked.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: pattern]
#1507555 - 04/30/03 12:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Isn't that one of Bin Laden's greivances, that Americans were in Saudi Arabia?
Certainly was.
Looks like it's Bin Laden 1, US 0.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Xlea321]
#1507587 - 04/30/03 12:36 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dont forget the downfall of Saddam, another check on Bin Ladens wishlist.
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 Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: pattern]
#1508440 - 04/30/03 04:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bin Laden sure seems to be getting his way lately. He's forever changed the American way of life after 9/11, Saddam is out of power, the U.S. is moving out of Saudi Arabia, and we still can't find him(and we don't even seem to be trying anymore).
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
#1508549 - 04/30/03 05:09 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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How are you saying that he's changed American life? I see no changes in my day to day living. I'm not saying you wrong, just asking for examples...And He'll be happy Saddam is out of power, but he wont be happy unless the government replacing him is a Theocratic Islamic State, which wont happen.
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 Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: Madtowntripper]
#1508588 - 04/30/03 05:20 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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How are you saying that he's changed American life? I see no changes in my day to day living. I'm not saying you wrong, just asking for examples...
Well, people are seem to be more afraid of terror nowadays, and more willing to give up their rights in order to feel safe. People are also more afraid to speak out against their government's actions, lest they be labeled a traitor.
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And He'll be happy Saddam is out of power, but he wont be happy unless the government replacing him is a Theocratic Islamic State, which wont happen.
It'll probably be either that or a U.S. puppet government, in which case there'll be even more people pissed off at America and joining Al Queda.
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
#1508689 - 04/30/03 06:08 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll buy those first things. Makes sense to me, although I dont see how it helps him.
"It'll probably be either that or a U.S. puppet government, in which case there'll be even more people pissed off at America and joining Al Queda. "
I wish I could say you were wrong. Its painful to say. The U.S. cant afford to hold REAL elections, because a radical muslim would win. Ouch. Now you have me thinking...
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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: US moving bases from Saudi Arabia to Iraq [Re: silversoul7]
#1508892 - 04/30/03 07:21 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bin Laden sure seems to be getting his way lately. He's forever changed the American way of life after 9/11, Saddam is out of power, the U.S. is moving out of Saudi Arabia, and we still can't find him(and we don't even seem to be trying anymore).
Yeah, my count is
Bin Laden 3 USA 0
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