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Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers
    #15036839 - 09/06/11 09:48 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

http://journalstar.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_7a38c903-779d-55a7-9be5-c4262d345018.html

Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers



Kirk Naylor's client understood that he was charged with possession of marijuana with intent to deliver after police found 49.3 pounds of pot in his car last summer.

But he needed an explanation of the second count, violation of Nebraska's drug tax stamp law.

Here's a short one: People hauling drugs through Nebraska are required by law to buy stamps to affix on the packages -- even though drugs are illegal in the first place. The stamp doesn't legalize the transport, but it's illegal to not have it.

Deepa Buss, spokeswoman for the Nebraska Department of Revenue, offered a more detailed explanation.

"The 1990 Nebraska Unicameral passed and Governor Kay Orr signed LB260 establishing a state tax on illegal drugs," she wrote in an email. "The intent of the law was to give law enforcement an alternative tool against drug dealers. If a prosecutor couldn't win a conviction for selling drugs, he might be able to send the suspect to prison for failing to pay the drug tax. Or the prosecution could win a conviction on both charges, increasing the potential penalties."

Naylor, a long-time Lincoln criminal defense attorney, said he described the law to his client, who then asked: "Does anybody buy those things?"

Naylor guessed the answer was very few. And he was right.

In the past 20 years, 531 drug tax stamps have been purchased in the state's six regional Department of Revenue offices. The stamps sell for $10, $50, $100, $500 and $1,000.

State law requires dealers to pay a tax of $100 per ounce of marijuana trafficked, $150 per gram of controlled substance and $500 for 50-count units of drugs not sold by weight, such as steroids. To prove they paid, dealers must affix stamps to containers full of drugs.

Getting caught without a stamp comes with a possible penalty of as many as five years in prison, a $10,000 fine and payment of double the taxable amount of any seized drugs, Buss said.

Convictions are rare, Naylor said. Mostly, the charge is used as a plea-bargaining tool.

But his recent client's case went to a bench trial, and he lost. Last month, the client was sentenced to 18 to 36 months in prison for the distribution conviction and 12 months for the tax stamp violation, although the sentences are to be served at the same time.

"It didn't cost him any more time," Naylor said.

Naylor said he'd never heard of someone dodging the drug tax stamp violation because the proper labels were affixed to a brick of pot.

Buss said she has no idea why the stamps bought at the Lincoln office were purchased. Specific taxpayer information is strictly confidential, she said, meaning the identity of the person who bought the only $1,000 stamp sold remains a mystery.

The best guess is that it was a  collector.

"Purchasers of these stamps were presumed not to be drug dealers, but stamp collectors," Buss said. "The stamps are sold no questions asked and the department's records of stamp sales cannot be used as evidence against a drug dealer in any criminal action."

The stamp shows a marijuana joint and a syringe laid out, crossbones style, in front of a skull and a tombstone.

Buss said she recently found the original sketches in a folder at the Nebraska Department of Revenue's Lincoln office. The artwork was done by Mike Heil, a former forms management analyst who also designed the covers of state income tax forms but since has died.

On the Internet, his artwork remains admired.

"This is one of the best-looking stamps available," reads a description on one website that offers drug tax stamps for sale.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: dwpineal]
    #15036941 - 09/06/11 10:23 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Here's a short one: People hauling drugs through Nebraska are required by law to buy stamps to affix on the packages -- even though drugs are illegal in the first place. The stamp doesn't legalize the transport, but it's illegal to not have it.




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State law requires dealers to pay a tax of $100 per ounce of marijuana trafficked, $150 per gram of controlled substance and $500 for 50-count units of drugs not sold by weight, such as steroids. To prove they paid, dealers must affix stamps to containers full of drugs.




:awewtf:

:awenuhuh:

Yeah... make a lot of sense... taxing something illegal...

And they wonder why not so many people buy these stamps... :facepalm:

It's called the black market...

Eh.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Simplepowa]
    #15036954 - 09/06/11 10:26 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Simplepowa said:
Quote:

Here's a short one: People hauling drugs through Nebraska are required by law to buy stamps to affix on the packages -- even though drugs are illegal in the first place. The stamp doesn't legalize the transport, but it's illegal to not have it.




:dudewtf:

Quote:

State law requires dealers to pay a tax of $100 per ounce of marijuana trafficked, $150 per gram of controlled substance and $500 for 50-count units of drugs not sold by weight, such as steroids. To prove they paid, dealers must affix stamps to containers full of drugs.




:awewtf:

:awenuhuh:

Yeah... make a lot of sense... taxing something illegal...

And they wonder why not so many people buy these stamps... :facepalm:

It's called the black market...

Eh.



Local laws :confused: ah, I hate this state


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Earth Child]
    #15037172 - 09/06/11 11:39 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

LOL

The Nebraska government is pulling the same BS that the feds did back in the day. Why would any buy tax stamps, instantly incriminating themselves as a potential dealer of illegal drugs? Retarded.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #15037367 - 09/06/11 12:46 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

So, on one hand, the local government is admitting that even though these drugs are illegal, they will still be around and, on the other hand, they're making sure they get the money they would be due if these drugs weren't prohibited in the first place. :what:

That's actually pretty clever, even if brazenly corrupt.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Remix]
    #15037943 - 09/06/11 02:55 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

There is actually a lot of states that have a tax on illegalized drugs (especially weed) and yes, this questionable kind of tax evasion is in fact enforced in almost every one of those states.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15037967 - 09/06/11 03:00 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah. I think I remember it was either Kentucky or Kansas that tried enforcing these sorts of tax stamp laws when they started "cracking down" on some of the newer RCs being sold as legal highs.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Remix]
    #15038516 - 09/06/11 05:14 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

So somewhere a person has the only $1000 stamp ever sold? That really does sound like quite a collectible, could be worth quite a bit more some day.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Kizzle]
    #15038699 - 09/06/11 05:48 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Is it wrong that I want to collect them??


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: NeonLyteDayDream]
    #15038736 - 09/06/11 05:56 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

My friend from NOrth Carolina said they have this law there to


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: King Cap]
    #15039759 - 09/06/11 09:52 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Do people that evade legal materials taxes in these states get a 12 month sentence for not paying them?  People get away with hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax evasion and dont get this kind of offense. 

Well...except for Wesley Snipes.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: dwpineal]
    #15040444 - 09/07/11 12:41 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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The stamp shows a marijuana joint and a syringe laid out, crossbones style, in front of a skull and a tombstone.







That is kinda stylin' in a satiric way. How ironic.


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: Toe_Jam]
    #15047479 - 09/08/11 01:14 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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Buss said she has no idea why the stamps bought at the Lincoln office were purchased. Specific taxpayer information is strictly confidential, she said, meaning the identity of the person who bought the only $1,000 stamp sold remains a mystery.

The best guess is that it was a  collector.

"Purchasers of these stamps were presumed not to be drug dealers, but stamp collectors," Buss said. "The stamps are sold no questions asked and the department's records of stamp sales cannot be used as evidence against a drug dealer in any criminal action."





I think if most people knew that lil nugget of gold they would be buying a hell of a lot more stamps. But whats the point I guess, if you cant beat the stamp charge even if you have it stamped to your drugs. :rofl2:


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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: snoot]
    #15047715 - 09/08/11 02:07 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

State law requires dealers to pay a tax of $100 per ounce of marijuana

If those are the sorts of taxes they would put on cannabis if it were legal maybe I'm better off now.


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    #15048440 - 09/08/11 04:19 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

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State law requires dealers to pay a tax of $100 per ounce of marijuana

If those are the sorts of taxes they would put on cannabis if it were legal maybe I'm better off now.




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Re: Drug tax stamps have not been hot sellers [Re: snoot]
    #15050608 - 09/08/11 11:25 PM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Its a possibility, but I know more about the man then the man does me.


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