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Offlinerobbyberto
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You guys are all shamans so does this describe you?
    #15029843 - 09/04/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

A shaman is a person, a designated priest or priestess, who acts as an intermediary between the physical and spiritual plains for a specific purpose. One can only become a shaman through hereditary lines or by having a calling for spiritual matters which is recognised by the community. The training required to become a shaman is physically and mentally rigorous. Potential shamans are specially trained under two disciplines. The ecstatic discipline focuses on trances, dream states, visions, and intuitions. The traditional discipline focuses on historical and sociological aspects like names, the roles of the spirits, the genealogy of the clan, proverbs, and hidden words of wisdom in secret spiritual languages.

The training involves becoming very intimate with death, pain, suffering, roles and identities of spirits, and the mysteries and legends of ones tribe. It often involves self-inflicted isolation, bodily torment, and purification. To become a shaman one must experience existential physical death and rebirth as well as experience a connection to the spirits themselves. Training is coordinated by older shamans. One cannot become a shaman without being accepted by the spirits. Helping spirits show themselves during the rebirth phase of the training and become partners to a shaman. These helping spirits are frequently animal spirits which enable special abilities for the shaman to which they are connected.

Once a shaman receives all the necessary training he will have the ability to “work in a mystical state of ecstasy, moving between ordinary and non-ordinary realities.....in order to bring back knowledge, power, or help for those who need it”. In order to enter the spiritual realms a shaman must first alter his state of consciousness. To achieve the necessary altered state of consciousness a shaman will to do a mixture of dancing, singing, drumming, and rattling. Hallucinogenic drugs are used on occasion.

In this altered state exists a channel which taps into divine power and connects the human and spirit realms. People seek the help of a shaman for a variety of reasons such as for help connecting to the spirits of departed loved ones, for retrieving a lost spirit or soul, to remove negative spirits that are causing an illness, and countless other reasons.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15029859 - 09/04/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i dont understand the point of this thread
im not a "shaman" im simply a guy who likes drugs :shrug:


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: eritas]
    #15029869 - 09/04/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nah everyone here is a shaman. If you're not then you need to leave brah.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15029887 - 09/04/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: i thought that was just the psychadelic experience


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and how beautiful it is
because freedom doesnt have a purpose

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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15029891 - 09/04/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

robbyberto said:
A shaman is a person, a designated priest or priestess, who acts as an intermediary between the physical and spiritual plains for a specific purpose. One can only become a shaman through hereditary lines or by having a calling for spiritual matters which is recognised by the community. The training required to become a shaman is physically and mentally rigorous. Potential shamans are specially trained under two disciplines. The ecstatic discipline focuses on trances, dream states, visions, and intuitions. The traditional discipline focuses on historical and sociological aspects like names, the roles of the spirits, the genealogy of the clan, proverbs, and hidden words of wisdom in secret spiritual languages.

The training involves becoming very intimate with death, pain, suffering, roles and identities of spirits, and the mysteries and legends of ones tribe. It often involves self-inflicted isolation, bodily torment, and purification. To become a shaman one must experience existential physical death and rebirth as well as experience a connection to the spirits themselves. Training is coordinated by older shamans. One cannot become a shaman without being accepted by the spirits. Helping spirits show themselves during the rebirth phase of the training and become partners to a shaman. These helping spirits are frequently animal spirits which enable special abilities for the shaman to which they are connected.

Once a shaman receives all the necessary training he will have the ability to “work in a mystical state of ecstasy, moving between ordinary and non-ordinary realities.....in order to bring back knowledge, power, or help for those who need it”. In order to enter the spiritual realms a shaman must first alter his state of consciousness. To achieve the necessary altered state of consciousness a shaman will to do a mixture of dancing, singing, drumming, and rattling. Hallucinogenic drugs are used on occasion.

In this altered state exists a channel which taps into divine power and connects the human and spirit realms. People seek the help of a shaman for a variety of reasons such as for help connecting to the spirits of departed loved ones, for retrieving a lost spirit or soul, to remove negative spirits that are causing an illness, and countless other reasons.



tldr. Too much talking for shamans. We're all about doing thangs. :strokebeard:


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15029896 - 09/04/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you think you're a shaman, you aren't a shaman. Unless you're a shaman.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #15029905 - 09/04/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Mad_Larkin said:
If you think you're a shaman, you aren't a shaman. Unless you're a shaman.



Shamans don't think.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: The_Ghost]
    #15029957 - 09/04/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Rule #1 about Shaman Club

Don't kick the turtle.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15029986 - 09/04/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a level 80 Aspirin Shaman. I do extractions by picking out the drug molecules with my bare hands.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: Remix]
    #15030007 - 09/04/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i am a shaman, i hail from the land of wal-greens.


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: ModularMind]
    #15030014 - 09/04/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

To be a shaman you must see this when you look into the mirror:



Unfortunately, when I look into the mirror all I see is:



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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: Remix]
    #15030025 - 09/04/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I poop, do shamans poop? If not, then I guess I am no shaman...., :frown: to the drugs then!


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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15030029 - 09/04/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

im the most geared shaman on my server



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Re: You guys are all shamans so does this describe you? [Re: robbyberto]
    #15030062 - 09/04/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I know I'm a shaman because I can do this,


Spirit of the Fire, Remember!
GIBIL, Spirit of the Fire, Remember!
GIRRA, Spirit of the Flames, Remember!
O God of Fire, Mighty Son of ANU, Most terrifying among Thy Brothers,
Rise!
O God of the Furnace, God of Destruction, Remember!
Rise Up, O God of Fire, GIBIL in Thy Majesty, and devour my enemies!
Rise up, O God of Fire, GIRRA in Thy Power, and burn the sorcerers who persecute me!
GIBIL GASHRU UMUNA YANDURU
TUSHTE YESH SHIR ILLANI U MA YALKI!
GISHBAR IA ZI IA
IA ZI DINGIR GIRRA KANPA!
Rise up, Son of the Flaming Disk of ANU!
Rise up, Offspring of the Golden Weapon of MARDUK!
It is not I, but ENKI, Master of the Magicians, who summons Thee!
It is not I, but MARDUK, Slayer of the Serpent, who calls Thee here now!
Burn the Evil and the Evildoer!
Burn the Sorcerer and the Sorceress!
Singe them! Burn them! Destroy them!
Consume their powers!
Carry them away!
Rise up, GISHBAR BA GIBBIL BA GIRRA ZI AGA KANPA!
Spirit of the God of Fire, Thou art Conjured!
KAKKAMMANUNU!


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