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OfflineAshaman
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Cactus Ident.
    #1502216 - 04/28/03 10:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, havent been here in forever it seems like. Anyway I'm going shopping tomorrow and was looking for some quick tips on San Pedro and Peruvian Torch identification. Also are these mislabelled at stores much? Thanks.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Ashaman]
    #1502255 - 04/28/03 10:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yes i would be interested too.. good details of how to pick the good from the bad...jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Ashaman]
    #1502262 - 04/28/03 10:51 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

where im from they always label every cactus as "assorted cacti" dont bother asking them...they never know anyways.




here is a peruvian torch which is usually avialable at wallyworld



here is a san pedro
ive never seen a san pedro in my area but they are supposed to be common


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Bob_J]
    #1502362 - 04/28/03 11:15 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

any details on the difference?? spine #s, certain things to look for?? jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: jojoba]
    #1503589 - 04/29/03 08:57 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ok i will say that if you go to lowes, a sure fire way to get a pedro is to read the label and if it says Candle cactus, YOU got ONe.. underneath the name it will say pachanoi  .  :smile: OFten most mistake Blue myrtle for pedro's.. I have nearly bought a blue myrtle b4, they look just alike.. Anyone know the tag name of the Trich peruvianus from the stores?? jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: jojoba]
    #1505427 - 04/29/03 07:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

c'mon guys.. i know someone knows some tale tale signs of good trich's to be found at our local stores.. my lowes is getting a shipment in tommorow.. i know what a pachanoi looks like, but dont know how to tell other's, I'll try to see if they have any peruvianus.. anyone know the common name on the plastic stake?? jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: jojoba]
    #1505466 - 04/29/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

need a closer pic, specially near the node and the area above it, including a good view of the spines.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: neuro]
    #1505705 - 04/29/03 08:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

nero, we're not trying to identify the cacti that Bob posted, we are looking for someone to give us descriptions of what to look for when trying to identify San Pedro and Peruvian Torch on our own. Thanks.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Ashaman]
    #1505712 - 04/29/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I checked my local Lowe's today and all they had were very small seedlings, but another nursery had what looked like decently large Pedros.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Ashaman]
    #1505730 - 04/29/03 09:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

oooh.. the seedlings lowes had, were they trich's..? last year i got 2 one foot pedro's for 7.95.. what a deal.. i would like to find another deal like that and hopefully get some peruvianus cactus's. heard they carry them too.. not sure on the common name ( plastic tag) though.. jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: jojoba]
    #1505739 - 04/29/03 09:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

no trichs that I could see, I was a little disapointed in their selection, they had about 40 "moon cactus" seedlings. I might check out the other two that are somewhat close to me though


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Ashaman]
    #1506065 - 04/29/03 11:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

wait a minute
Or san pedro and the torch hallucigenic?


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: tastyshroom]
    #1506573 - 04/30/03 02:55 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

san pedro and peruvian torch both contain varying amounts of mescaline.  some specimens rival even peyote in alkaloid content.  do a search :smile:


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: blaze2]
    #1509848 - 05/01/03 02:03 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

tasty:

T. pachanoi:
...Contains: mescaline (0.11 - 2.3%), 3,4-dimethoxyphenethylamine, 4-hydroxy-3-methoxyphenethylamine, 3-hydroxy-4,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, 4-hydroxy-3,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, anhalonidine, anhalinine, hordenine, tyramine, 3-methoxytyramine.

T. peruvianus:
...Contains: mescaline (0.82%), 2-chloromescaline (.02%), tyramine (.009%), 3-methoxytyramine (.01%), 3-4-dimethoxyphenethylamine, 4-hydroxy-3-5-dimethoxyphenethylamine (.004%).

note: these are the results of single assays, and alkaloid concentrations [or even presence with some] will/may not be consistent from one specimen to another.

one good identification feature of a trichocereus is the V shaped notches on the ribs above each of the aereole.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: canid]
    #1510123 - 05/01/03 03:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

if you guys dont already have a "tek", "recipe" or whatever...this is a good one  :smile:

http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/mescaline.extraction.html


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Bob_J]
    #1512257 - 05/01/03 07:57 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

omg..
Im gonna go to home depot and buy some!


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: tastyshroom]
    #1512519 - 05/01/03 09:08 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I too am pretty curious, I think it was jojoba who originally asked, about what they put on the tags of Trich peruvianus at stores like home depot, walmart, and lowes. Anyone got a clue? Someone must know.

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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: Hooty]
    #1513323 - 05/02/03 12:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

peruvian torches [T. peruvianus] are usualy labled as just that when i have found them.

i have found san pedro [T. pachanoi] labled by it's binomial before but it's usualy not labled at all.


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: canid]
    #1513439 - 05/02/03 01:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

LIke i said i found 2 cactus in 1 container for 7.95 last year at lowes, they were close to a foot tall and the label said Candle Cactus (T. Pachanoi).. hellofa deal.. I have been going back and calling but i keep getting mixed answers on when they will come in, or if they allready have come in.. jojoba


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Re: Cactus Ident. [Re: jojoba]
    #1513507 - 05/02/03 01:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, they're not the most reliable when it comes to cacti.


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