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Siddhartha by Hesse
#13574132 - 12/02/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Any fans?
I'm about finished and this book has already elicited a profound effect on me! Perhaps it is because I seem to resonate with Siddhartha's character; his isolation, his wandering, his internal struggles. Nice little gem of a book, in my humble opinion
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: catalyst]
#13574187 - 12/02/10 04:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll look into reading it for I need a new book Tell us more. Was it just one of those things that resonated within you or was it something that you could relate to your life? I need answers.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: catalyst]
#13574196 - 12/02/10 04:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know a lot of people really love it, but it didn't really move me. It's funny how that works, you never really know what's going to push your buttons.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: blewmeanie]
#13574242 - 12/02/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I know a lot of people really love it, but it didn't really move me. It's funny how that works, you never really know what's going to push your buttons.
You're right about that. I've had books that sent me over the moon; mean nothing to me a few years later and books that were recommended to me where I thought that the people were crazy for telling me to read it that turned out to be some of my all time favorites times later. It's odd.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: blewmeanie]
#13574257 - 12/02/10 04:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely one of my favorite books.
It says just about all you need to say
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Epilson Lyrae said: I'll look into reading it for I need a new book Tell us more. Was it just one of those things that resonated within you or was it something that you could relate to your life? I need answers.

Heheh, you should just read it! I'm pretty sure it's free on Project Gutenberg.
It is one of those things where I relate to his character -- his demeanor, disposition, ideologies -- and can also integrate his understandings into my life.
I know it has a lot to do with my recent endeavors into the psychedelic mindset. Siddhartha's quest to shed the Self, the ego, and experience life again like a child is very relevant to me right now. I feel like many of his realizations about the Self and the nature of life sync very well with what I have learned from my psychedelic experiences; it is nice and relieving to see those same awakenings on paper, written from an external source
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: catalyst]
#13574342 - 12/02/10 04:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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The book had a huge influence on me when I read it in high school. It solidified my desire to, like the title character, explore many lifestyles which often appear to contradict each other and find the common threads.
I read it again recently and found it fairly simplistic, but the deeper messages are very strong.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: catalyst]
#13574358 - 12/02/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll check it out. My psychedelic experiences ALWAYS leave me with the desire to be more of what I'd like to be; but I always seem to get caught back up in the bullshit of this life and find myself looking at myself and thinking, "WTF dude, who are you?"
The hardest thing that I have learned about psychedelics is holding onto the things you learn from psychedelics.
You can quote me on that.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: catalyst]
#13574365 - 12/02/10 04:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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When I read it in High School it didn't have much of an impact on my psyche. I could really care less at the time.
After reading it later on down the line though, I really came to fully appreciate the work.
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Epilson Lyrae said: I'll check it out. My psychedelic experiences ALWAYS leave me with the desire to be more of what I'd like to be; but I always seem to get caught back up in the bullshit of this life and find myself looking at myself and thinking, "WTF dude, who are you?"
The hardest thing that I have learned about psychedelics is holding onto the things you learn from psychedelics.
You can quote me on that.
Right on, brother. I know exactly how you feel! It's refreshing to see the mindset and convictions transcribed to paper.
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Epilson Lyrae said: I'll check it out. My psychedelic experiences ALWAYS leave me with the desire to be more of what I'd like to be; but I always seem to get caught back up in the bullshit of this life and find myself looking at myself and thinking, "WTF dude, who are you?"
The hardest thing that I have learned about psychedelics is holding onto the things you learn from psychedelics.
You can quote me on that.
Then just let go Read the book and you'll understand.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: Enthrall]
#13574521 - 12/02/10 05:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea one of my all time favorite books! but then again my favs are a pretty big list haha... although probly not big compared to other's lists.
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Definitely one of my favorites. I have absolutely no idea how many times I've read it. When I'm feeling depressed I just flip through and read some random pages; it's just such a beautiful story that it always makes me feel better afterwards.
Anyone read any other novels by Hesse? I just finished Steppenwolf. It was interesting, but I just didn't connect with it for some reason. I've heard that the Glass bead game is great as well.
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: r_o_ry]
#13574704 - 12/02/10 06:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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A great book--a favourite of mine too! I've read it several times by now. It's a very simple book in literary sense, but it's messages are very deep and very true. It had a profound effect on me when I first read it back in the day.
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A true seeker could not accept any teachings, not if he sincerely wished to find something. But he who had found, could give his approval to every path, every goal; nothing separated him from all of the other thousands who lived in eternity, who breathed the Divine.
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When Siddhartha listened attentively to this river, to the song of a thousand voices; when he did not listen to the sorrow or laughter, when he did not bind his soul to any one particular voice and absorb it in his Self, but heard them all, the whole, the unity; then the great song of a thousand voices consisted of one word: Om — perfection.
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Wisdom is not communicable. The wisdom which a wise man tries to communicate always sounds foolish... Knowledge can be communicated, but not wisdom. One can find it, live it, do wonders through it, but one cannot communicate and teach it.
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Listen my friend! I am a sinner and you are a sinner, but someday the sinner will be Brahma again, will someday attain Nirvana, will someday become a Buddha. Now this "someday" is illusion; it is only a comparison. The sinner is not on his way to a Buddha-like state; he is not evolving, although our thinking cannot conceive things otherwise. No, the potential Buddha already exists in the sinner; his future is already there. The potential hidden Buddha must be recognized in him, in you, in everybody. The world, Govinda, is not imperfect or slowly evolving along a path to perfection. No, it is perfect at every moment; every sin already carries grace within it, all small children are potential old men, all sucklings have death within them, all dying people — eternal life. It is not possible for one person to see how far another is on the way; the Buddha exits in robber and the dice player; the robber exists in the Brahmin. During deep meditation it is possible to dispel time, to see simultaneously all the past, present, and future, and then everything is good, everything is perfect, everything is Brahman.
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Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little different immediately after they are expressed, a little distorted, a little foolish. And yet it also pleases me and seems right that what is of value and wisdom to one man seems nonsense to another.
So many great quotes...
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I know this is an old thread, yet I sincerely recommend this book to anyone here on the shroomery. It does not matter whether you agree with its teachings or not, but at least for me it has helped to reflect my own psychedelic experiences.
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I just popped in here to say 'I agree, this book is great'--but it looks like I beat myself to it.
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I had to read it in college and honestly it didnt do much for me at the time. I knew very little about buddhism, so it had little affect on me. Not only that, I didnt really give the books I read in school a chance! But a couple years later, I was walking a different path in my life and gave it another try.
Someone from the shroomery actually sent me a copy for free. I mentioned in a post how I wanted to read it again but lost my copy, and someone sent it to me. If you are still a member.... Thanks again
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Re: Siddhartha by Hesse [Re: danlennon3]
#15021179 - 09/03/11 04:19 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thing i find surprising about this book, is that most americans are forced to read this book at some point in their education. And yet, this story is taken merely as like mythology or something. Nobody seems to get that Buddha reached enlightenment and that it is actually possible for all of us to reach the same place. i mean obviously all of the details in the story may or may not be accurate but the central point of the story which is based of history is taken merely as fiction. but better to have the story imprinted in the minds of ppl as fiction than not at all.
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LustfulLinsanity said: The thing i find surprising about this book, is that most americans are forced to read this book at some point in their education. And yet, this story is taken merely as like mythology or something. Nobody seems to get that Buddha reached enlightenment and that it is actually possible for all of us to reach the same place. i mean obviously all of the details in the story may or may not be accurate but the central point of the story which is based of history is taken merely as fiction.
Maybe they are just bound to their ego due to their growing up in a Christian society. 
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but better to have the story imprinted in the minds of ppl as fiction than not at all.
Maybe the impact factor would be larger if the book came with an eigth of mushrooms.
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