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InvisibleInnvertigo
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1503794 - 04/29/03 09:16 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Top performers in almost every market lose stores and marketshare from time to time. It's called making adjustments. GM does it all the time. I know this sounds weird but losing is all part of gaining. You find where your product is consuming the most resources and when it is found the company makes a re-adjustment into a market that is more efficient. It's all part of the business world, ya win some market share and ya lose some market share. Besides Coca-cola is the largest beverage distributer in the world i believe. It's bound to go down from time to time.


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Offlinejimsuzo
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: wingnutx]
    #1503810 - 04/29/03 09:25 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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fast food is just the favorite whipping boy of anti-Americans.




Not surprisingly, I disagree. Fast food is the whipping boy of anybody with more than half a brain. If that makes us anti-American, what's it say about all you 'patriots' that eat that shit?

fast food = fast death.


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InvisibleInnvertigo
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1503821 - 04/29/03 09:31 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

What is the big deal with fast food anyway? Sure it's bad for you if that's all you eat but unlike many ignorant (meaning that you don't know, so don't start your whining) foreigners just assume that that's all we eat. I bet ya that i'm in better shape than a lot of you. I play hockey a couple times a week, i'm active, i ski both water and snow, and many other activities and eat at a fastfood place at least once a week or so...maybe twice depending on the situation.


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Invisiblewingnutx

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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1503892 - 04/29/03 10:01 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

For the record, I am a health nut. I just don't feel the need to demonize a burger-selling clown, like I don't feel the need to demonize tobacco or marijuana, even though I use neither.

I do go slumming and eat McDonalds about once a month.


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: wingnutx]
    #1504372 - 04/29/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

My dog will NOT eat mcdonalds...everything else though....?!.....


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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1504540 - 04/29/03 01:15 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

----foreigners just assume that that's all we eat

more than half of the american population is obese. not overweight....obese. so its very easy to assume things that are obviously true.


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1504590 - 04/29/03 01:31 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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not overweight....obese.




F-A-T. :grin:


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OfflineCeeEssGee
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1504612 - 04/29/03 01:38 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Parting is such sweet sorrow.


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1504623 - 04/29/03 01:41 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Inny, you have shown that you are an ANECDOTE, and if to be believed (and I believe you), that you are a healthy exception--an American who has managed to achieve that delicate balance between too many empty, fat-laden calories and an active lifestyle plus a healtheir diet, then Good on ya!

Consider, though that if everyone ate at fast-food places at the rate you claim to, we we wouldn't be inundated with them!

But if you stand at just about any given spot in any given U.S. city, you will see, with only the minimal pivoting of the neck or torso, a wide range of fast-food restaurants offering their own versions of an unhealthy diet. AND, you will see a line-up at the drive-through, and plenty of follks, many of whom are tagged along by nagging kids of ten years and younger.

So the question remains: how can all these various fast-food places stay in business if the average individual visits one once or twice a week???

Another question remains: Are we a "Fast-food Nation"? And if so, what effect is that having on our overall health?

Some facts to consider:

61% of adults in the United States were overweight or obese (BMI > 25)* in 1999.
13% of children aged 6 to 11 years and 14% of adolescents aged 12 to 19 years were overweight* in 1999. This prevalence has nearly tripled for adolescents in the past 2 decades.
The increases in overweight and obesity cut across all ages, racial and ethnic groups, and both genders.
300,000 deaths each year in the United States are associated with obesity.
Overweight and obesity are associated with heart disease, certain types of cancer, type 2 diabetes, stroke, arthritis, breathing problems, and psychological disorders, such as depression.
The economic cost of obesity in the United States was about $117 billion in 2000.


*BMI = Body Mass Index (I don't claim to understand this exactly)

source

Of course, fast-food places are not the cause of all this, but a factor--yet another indicator of the serious struggles facing a fast-growing, incredibly wealthy society.

hongomon

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Invisiblez@z.com
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: hongomon]
    #1504704 - 04/29/03 02:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

I will say that fastfood is a bad thing to eat frequently, but it is all simply individual choice. If a person wants to do something unhealthy for themselves who am I to stop them?


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: z@z.com]
    #1505380 - 04/29/03 05:19 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Who said anything about stopping them? In fact I agree. However, objectively speaking, don't you see how our massive support of the fast-food industry is a contributing factor to the problems I referred to?

But even there, you're right--it's our own right, and if half the population wants to eat itself into all sorts of health problems and even death, what better place to do it than in the land of the free?

This does, however, indicate, as I have suggested before, that while we have come to see our individual rights as sacrosanct (and I'm not totally against that) our concept of responsibility to society is a much more difficult one to define, let alone promote. In the current system the health problems and deaths will become, unfortunately, a burden on society. That's a reality to be concerned about, unless we live in a libertarian paradise, where a person's health burdens and/or death are his or her own problems, or that of caring family or strangers.

hongomon

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Offlinejimsuzo
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1505406 - 04/29/03 05:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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What is the big deal with fast food anyway?




Do you realize the growth hormone content in your average fast food beef (not to mention fat)?


Quote:

I bet ya that i'm in better shape than a lot of you.




cool that you're active. I bet you are in better shape than most (but not me). A water skiier as well? - maybe we can get together some time and do some skiing?

For the record, I'm not a foreigner (but I think you know that).


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1505853 - 04/29/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Do you realize the growth hormone content in your average fast food beef (not to mention fat)?




who are you trying to be? Someones nagging mom? So What?

Quote:

For the record, I'm not a foreigner (but I think you know that).




it was a general comment..


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Offlinejimsuzo
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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1506797 - 04/30/03 04:12 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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who are you trying to be? Someones nagging mom?




No, I simply answered your question, "What is the big deal with fast food anyway?" - Remember?


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So What?




You're really not very smart, are you?







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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1506807 - 04/30/03 04:29 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Bean sprouts contain Arsenic.


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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: jimsuzo]
    #1507200 - 04/30/03 09:58 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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You're really not very smart, are you?




that's an ad hominem there, sparky.

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Re: freedom = fastfood [Re: wingnutx]
    #1507289 - 04/30/03 10:40 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

he's mad because i don't agree with him, he's been following me all morning.


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