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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1501137 - 04/28/03 03:29 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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its because all the US troops were too busy guarding the oil fields.



Funny thing is, if they hadn't guarded the oil fields and they were torched, I suspect you'd bitch that the fields should have been guarded instead of the museums.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501142 - 04/28/03 03:30 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You don't find it even a little suspicious that the only building that WAS being guarded was the ministry of oil?...


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501150 - 04/28/03 03:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

No I don't as it was stated before the troops went in that the oil infrastructure was going to be looked out for. The Ministry happens to be a part of that.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501161 - 04/28/03 03:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Even after saying that you think that it's not "All about the oil"...


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501186 - 04/28/03 03:46 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Fuck ancient antiquities from the cradle of civilization....
Anyone hear of the US soldiers caught looting from a museaum? (sorry, lost source)


Oil is only the fringe benefit.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1501188 - 04/28/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

It's funny to watch people turn tail and run from this here because they've been played the fool. Oh well. You've got to have big brass ones to play in this forum. There needs to be some sort of warning "Your cajones must be this big to ride".


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501203 - 04/28/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Hey Spacely, see if you can find a post from me where I say oil is NOT a factor.

I have said that oil is, it's just not a major one.

Take off your "I hate Bush" pin for a second and give this more than a "Canadian" second worth of thought. What sources of revenue do the Iraqis have other than oil that can feed the people there? Should we have allowed the fields to be torched depriving the Iraqis of income? Should we have allowed the fields to be torched which would cause enviromental damage?

Saddam torched the fields in Kuwait the last time. Had we let that happen again you'd probably be one of the first to bitch about that. Bush stated in advance of the first soldier stepping across the border that one of the things we would do would be to protect the oil infrastructure. We did so.

Is the Ministry not a part of the oil infrastructure?

How does that make it "all aboot oil?'


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1501205 - 04/28/03 03:52 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well who seriously would think that the US would go over there to oust saddam out of the goodness of thier hearts?

Iraq shall pay for thier liberation for the next ten years out of oil money. Meanwhile american companies can well establish themselves there, so that once the bill is "paid", the puppet government can continue business as usual...



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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1501223 - 04/28/03 03:57 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Well some folks are just product of the America propoganda machine. They believe anything and everything they see on the nightly news. So it goes. Folks like that don't usually last long in here.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501253 - 04/28/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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I have said that oil is, it's just not a major one.



 
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What sources of revenue do the Iraqis have other than oil that can feed the people there? 


I see...so Oil is their only source of income and is the only thing worth protecting in Iraq yet it is not a major factor for the U.S. being there... :confused:  Oh wait..it must have been for the WMD's (and we all know how many of those have turned up thus far)


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501275 - 04/28/03 04:07 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Lame Rono, but not unexpected.

Were either of my statements inaccurate?

And where did I say it was the only thing worth protecting?


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501279 - 04/28/03 04:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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What sources of revenue do the Iraqis have other than oil that can feed the people there




My apologies if I misread that...but it would seem that the U.S. felt that the Oil was the only thing worth preserving.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501290 - 04/28/03 04:10 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Are you using that as an example of an inaccurate statement? If so, what other major sources of income do they have?


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501472 - 04/28/03 05:02 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Funny thing is, if they hadn't guarded the oil fields and they were torched, I suspect you'd bitch that the fields should have been guarded instead of the museums.




Oh haha that is a funny thing! thanks for pointing that out!!!
what a funny thing!



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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1501487 - 04/28/03 05:08 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently accurate though.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501497 - 04/28/03 05:12 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

No...I was responding to "And where did I say it was the only thing worth protecting?"...to which it would seem you answered yourself previously by saying "What sources of revenue do the Iraqis have other than oil that can feed the people there ". I took that to mean that oil was the only thing worth protecting in Iraq...would that be innaccurate?


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1501520 - 04/28/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Funny thing is, if they hadn't guarded the oil fields and they were torched, I suspect you'd bitch that the fields should have been guarded instead of the museums.



No, that would never happen because I would never be naive enough to think that they would leave the oil fields open in the first place...even you should know that I would never say that, considering I'm the one that has been saying it's all about the oil from the start. You're grasping...


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501562 - 04/28/03 05:31 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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No...I was responding to "And where did I say it was the only thing worth protecting?"...to which it would seem you answered yourself previously by saying "What sources of revenue do the Iraqis have other than oil that can feed the people there ". I took that to mean that oil was the only thing worth protecting in Iraq...would that be innaccurate?




Yes it is inaccurate. Hence the question mark at the end of my question.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: Rono]
    #1501569 - 04/28/03 05:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Funny thing is, if they hadn't guarded the oil fields and they were torched, I suspect you'd bitch that the fields should have been guarded instead of the museums.



No, that would never happen because I would never be naive enough to think that they would leave the oil fields open in the first place...even you should know that I would never say that, considering I'm the one that has been saying it's all about the oil from the start. You're grasping...



Wrong again Bucko. The only grasping was here..... "it's ALL aboot the oil.


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Re: Op:Iraqi Freedom as a push for oil money? I don't think so.. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1501580 - 04/28/03 05:36 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

And I stand by that...Oil is the MAIN reason..anything else is secondary...But it doesn't matter really, since no matter how many times you are shown that it's all about the oil, unless Dubya admits it himself you won't believe it.


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