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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: Luddite]
    #15050610 - 09/08/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Physical immortality would require us to change ourselves to such an extent we wouldn't even be recognizable as humans anymore, and even then you still have to think that the universe you inhabit will one day end itself. What then? Perhaps you can find a way into a new or tangent universe, or maybe ride "the big bounce" somehow (if that theory ever turns out to be true). If such theories of the universe's death & rebirth turn out to happen, then maybe you could possibly teleport into another dimension temporarily through the interim as the universe returns to more habitable conditions. But that's if any of this is even possible at all. This is only speculation, but then so is just about everything else (at least at some point in time).

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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: soma100]
    #15051319 - 09/09/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why would physical immortality require "a change that would make us unrecognizable as humans?"

I described a way that might potentially do it by just preventing your DNA from ever aging/changing/getting ill...

Not that it's guaranteed or approved or anything, but hypothetically speaking, I can't even imagine any potential ways that would "require a change that would make us unrecognizable as humans".... I'm curious what you mean.


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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: LightShedder]
    #15058951 - 09/10/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you should read the book The Message Given To Me By Extreterestrials. Acording to Rael the elohim extraterestrials can grant people imortal life.

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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: illusionsofman]
    #15059050 - 09/10/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are the extra terrestrials immortal according to Rael? And is he referring to th eones who have the big heads and big eyes?

In the book of enoch many people believe that the entities in that book called Watchers(grigori) are actually aliens. Book of enoch is ancient jewish literature but it is not part of the official jewish body of literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(angel)

Also it is interesting to note that in the bible some people lived very long lives. Methuselah for instance lived 900 years.

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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: LightShedder]
    #15066065 - 09/12/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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LightShedder said:
Why would physical immortality require "a change that would make us unrecognizable as humans?"

I described a way that might potentially do it by just preventing your DNA from ever aging/changing/getting ill...

Not that it's guaranteed or approved or anything, but hypothetically speaking, I can't even imagine any potential ways that would "require a change that would make us unrecognizable as humans".... I'm curious what you mean.




The fact is, if you change DNA just a little you probably wouldn't be very "human."  Look at monkeys. Even though 99% of our genetic makeup is alike, there are vast differences between us and them. Any subtle shifts in DNA might result in drastic changes, and I imagine a result such as immortality would require many of these drastic changes in DNA take place seeing as how you have to overcome cellular death among other things.

Not to mention, as an immortal you would still be bound to your environment, which changes a lot and dies itself eventually, along with the entire universe. You would ultimately have to figure out a way to overcome and adapt to the very decay of matter as it exists on a quantum level itself.

Just the fact that you might have to re-engineer yourself genetically for your cells to be able to absorb more radiation than they're programmed for would probably result in a chain reaction so intense, no scientist could look at your DNA and "technically" refer to you as a human.

I strongly doubt physical immortality is even possible and even if it was, I doubt anyone would ride the storm for eternity. The psychological effects of living for such a long time and experiencing so many things is hard to comprehend. Just being able to contain that amount of memory in your brain would require significant levels of genetic tinkering, if not mechanical/nano-technological, which brings me to another point. If humans could live for forever, what makes you think they would want to spend all that time in the same body? While I understand this isn't a necessity for the actual physical immortality to take place, I do think it is worth being brought up.

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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: soma100]
    #15071957 - 09/13/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Through nanotechnology it will be possible. Kind of useless though. Once we can get our consciounesses onto computers there is no reason to use a physical body. Once you experience the eternal bliss and nirvana that the computer can bring your mind, there will be no reason to want to experience anything ever again.


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Re: Is Physical Immortality Possible? [Re: Darwin23]
    #15072328 - 09/13/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Once you experience the eternal bliss and nirvana that the computer can bring your mind, there will be no reason to want to experience anything ever again.


Oh cool, so you've tried it?

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