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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1513980 - 05/02/03 04:08 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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  But if indeed the ballot counting was done illegally, and the election commission was unable to stop it, wouldnt that imply that the commision is "toothless"?



The ballot counting continued because a partisan Florida Supreme Court decided it would continue despite clearly written dates in Floridas pre-existing election laws.

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What I said would make sense is some sort of governing body that has authority.



Oh.... you mean like the Florida legislature?  :smirk:


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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1514021 - 05/02/03 05:01 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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But if indeed the ballot counting was done illegally, and the election commission was unable to stop it, wouldnt that imply that the commision is "toothless"? 




Yes and no.  It's true that they are toothless however the governing party is, like luvdem said, the florida legislature.  They had NO intention of enforcing the rule of law.

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What I said would make sense is some sort of governing body that has authority. Maybe a, although these hard to find, Bipartisan group?




I don't care if the people in charge are republican or democrate, just follow the laws that are on the books.  If you have a certain amount of days to do a job then do it.  maybe an elected group....however i bet they would screw that up as well.

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Or, we could send in United Nations election overseer's as they do in other countries that cant handle their own elections.... 




couldn't hurt i suppose...however we may need to give them directions to Florida.

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i just waxed up my beatin' club to. :grin: fresh from beatin' a baby walrus......and it's the dreaded Ice Weasel..not fox.


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Re: The Election [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1514284 - 05/02/03 08:32 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

You got me curious on the subject of vote counting...Just a few things I've found..

From RTE Internet News....

In Florida, West Palm Beach officials ended their recount of presidential election ballots half and hour before the official deadline, leaving approximately 1,000 votes uncounted. Canvassing board chairman Judge Charles Burton said that they had been forced to do so because of Secretary of State Katherine Harris? decision earlier today.

Maybe just an isolated case, I'm not sure. Also, if the law was on Bush's side, doesnt this blurb from CNN.com seem a bit suspicious?

The Bush campaign poured $13.8 million into winning the post-election battle for Florida's 25 electoral college votes, roughly four times what the Gore campaign spent, according to documents released yesterday.


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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1514316 - 05/02/03 08:57 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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In Florida, West Palm Beach officials ended their recount of presidential election ballots half and hour before the official deadline, leaving approximately 1,000 votes uncounted. Canvassing board chairman Judge Charles Burton said that they had been forced to do so because of Secretary of State Katherine Harris&#8217; decision earlier today.




this sounds a little funny because there it was understood when the deadline was. I don't know the specifics but it sounds more like they knew they wouldn't finish the counting. I can't discuss every problem in every district, It's speculation i know but who knows. It doesn't sound official.

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The Bush campaign poured $13.8 million into winning the post-election battle for Florida's 25 electoral college votes, roughly four times what the Gore campaign spent, according to documents released yesterday.




what's wrong with spending more money? Bush would of spent nothing if the judges on the Florida supreme court wouldn't of decided to scoff the election laws. If it were I in that situation i would of spent as much as i needed to win. It's more expensive to defend then to accuse. Bush also had more money throughout the election.


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Re: The Election [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1514322 - 05/02/03 08:59 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Right, Right. I agree that its all speculation. Who the fuck knows what really went on.  Maybe it'll all come public in 20 years.

And I agree, the second was just a cheap shot.  :smile:  I'll drop the subject now, if you dont mind.

Check out the News Page though. Fucking guy, sawed off his own arm?  Geezus...


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1514358 - 05/02/03 09:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Check out the News Page though. Fucking guy, sawed off his own arm? Geezus...




i heard that this morning, he used a pocket knife..yikes


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Re: The Election [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1514391 - 05/02/03 09:37 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

How the fuck does that even work? I wouldnt think a pocket knife would go through bone, unless he cut at a joint...but...shit....


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1514406 - 05/02/03 09:44 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

i don't want to think aboot it...it gives me the shivers.:crazy:  what i heard is that the rock weighed just 200 lbs, not too heavy. 


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Re: The Election [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1514412 - 05/02/03 09:45 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Enough about sawing off limbs, damnit. Get yourself into another folder, nobody else will argue with me. I....Need....Conflict.....


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: The Election [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1514425 - 05/02/03 09:51 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

it wasn't his arm..it was both legs :smirk:


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