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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: ellomello]
    #13997150 - 02/20/11 06:28 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

it doesn't get less shocking every time you hear about it though


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: bigmike7104]
    #13997835 - 02/20/11 08:35 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Sounds like maybe you should do something about it? At the very least you are able to call the prosecuting lawyer and tell them that they are a fascist and evil, scumsucking lowlife, and that they deserve to be imprisoned for being a detriment to freedom and decency?

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Satival]
    #13997896 - 02/20/11 08:42 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

this will cost OK(?) taxpayers half a million $$$ to get $31 worth of marijuana off the streets.. and her case is hardly unique either...in case your wondering why the states are going broke.. its not because of the fucken teachers union...

EDIT ..fuck oklahoma...

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Satival]
    #13998156 - 02/20/11 09:16 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

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Satival said:
Sounds like maybe you should do something about it? At the very least you are able to call the prosecuting lawyer and tell them that they are a fascist and evil, scumsucking lowlife, and that they deserve to be imprisoned for being a detriment to freedom and decency?




you know if i can get the prosecuters number i think i might do that.

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: skatealex2]
    #13998865 - 02/20/11 11:22 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

So she's pretty much going to miss all 4 of her kids remaining childhood years, teenage years, college years; probably going to lose her husband, and possibly just rot in prison never to see her family again over $31 of a natural herb that shouldn't be illegal all because some cocksucking motherfucker wanted to fill a quota?

There are no words, no combination of curses that can properly convey how enraged I am.

Edit: Whoops, thought it was for longer than 10 years. Still :crankey:

Edited by sunset_mission (02/20/11 11:30 PM)

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: skatealex2]
    #13998896 - 02/20/11 11:29 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Satival said:
Sounds like maybe you should do something about it? At the very least you are able to call the prosecuting lawyer and tell them that they are a fascist and evil, scumsucking lowlife, and that they deserve to be imprisoned for being a detriment to freedom and decency?




you know if i can get the prosecuters number i think i might do that.



drop me a line with that one i'd love to do the same

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: chiquita_burrito]
    #13998903 - 02/20/11 11:30 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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mattyyy said:
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Satival said:
Sounds like maybe you should do something about it? At the very least you are able to call the prosecuting lawyer and tell them that they are a fascist and evil, scumsucking lowlife, and that they deserve to be imprisoned for being a detriment to freedom and decency?




you know if i can get the prosecuters number i think i might do that.



drop me a line with that one i'd love to do the same



Sign me up too.

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: sunset_mission]
    #13999360 - 02/21/11 01:57 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

"Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" only sells bumper-stickers and T-shirts anymore. Time's are a-moving, slowly, but we will win.
And fuck the Man.


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Darklight203]
    #14000078 - 02/21/11 09:12 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

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Darklight203 said:
"Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" only sells bumper-stickers and T-shirts anymore. Time's are a-moving, slowly, but we will win.
And fuck the Man.




Land of the Thief, Home of the Slave is more fitting these days.


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14000453 - 02/21/11 10:34 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

Well she was poor, and couldnt afford a real attorney, With enough money you can get off, especially that.  Lack of money is what it is.


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: idunno]
    #14015464 - 02/23/11 06:19 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

glad... that wretch got what she most defiantly deserves-
I wonder how she got hooked up with the informant? hmm 10 years, while huge cartels soar in profits and remain free. This woman was probably trying to support her family. :thumbdown:


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: veggie]
    #15000198 - 08/30/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Mom who sold $31 in pot seeks reduction to 12-year sentence
August 30, 2011 - tulsaworld.com

A Kingfisher County woman profiled in a Tulsa World story earlier this year examining the state's high female incarceration rate has a hearing for a sentence modification set for Oct. 6.

Patricia M. Spottedcrow, 26, received a 12-year prison sentence last October for selling a total of $31 in marijuana to a police informant in December 2009 and January 2010. Her mother, Delita Starr, 51, was also charged.

In blind guilty pleas before a judge, Spottedcrow received prison time, and her mother received a 30-year suspended sentence. Neither had prior criminal convictions.

Oklahoma City attorney Josh Welch said he has requested Spottedcrow be present to speak directly to the judge.

"Patricia wants to let the judge know what she has learned and been through," Welch said. "She wants him to know she's remorseful, accepts responsibility and it will not happen again. She doesn't want a free pass or makes excuses for her conduct.

"With all things said, we disagree with the 12-year sentence, with it being excessive for this case."

Spottedcrow was featured in a Tulsa World article on Feb. 20, published in media across the state through the nonprofit journalism group Oklahoma Watch.

The judge, who is now retired, said in a previous interview that Spottedcrow's decade-long sentence was imposed because her four young children were in the home at the time of the drug buys. She said first-time offenders usually do not go to prison and alternatives including treatment are typically sought.

When Spottedcrow was booked into the jail after sentencing, some marijuana was found in a jacket she was wearing. She pleaded guilty to a drug possession charge and was given a two-year sentence to run concurrent with her other sentence.

The judge said she gave Starr a suspended sentence so she could care for Spottedcrow's children, who are now 10, 5, 3 and 2.

In the filing, Starr reportedly earns about $800 a month from her job at a truck stop earning $8 an hour. Expenses for the children are a minimum of $500 for food, clothes, diapers and medicine, and $500 for utilities, water and home maintenance. She cannot drive because her license was revoked in her sentencing.

Starr owes $8,091 in court fees.

"It's been very, very difficult on her," Welch said. "Their living conditions are not ideal. She calls weekly asking explaining what's going on and asking when Patricia could come home. They are tough questions to answer. When judges make these decisions, there is collateral fallout."

Spottedcrow, who owes $4,026 in court costs, wrote a letter to the judge apologizing for her actions.

"This place has had a profound effect on me mentally," she wrote. "I was not thinking about how my actions would affect my children's lives or the people around me ... I made a mistake and never thought what the repercussions would be. I am missing precious time away from my children, that I can never get back. What I know now is nothing is worth the cost of my children suffering."

While in prison, Spottedcrow has taken parenting classes, finished her GED and participates in a grief/loss recovery program, a behavior course, Alcoholics Anonymous/Narcotics Anonymous and a faith-based program. She is on the waiting list for some other programs and would like to go to college for a business degree, according to her court filing.

She would have to spend at least 50 percent of her sentence in prison before being eligible for parole.

"I am asking for a second chance at life, my chance to be a positive role model and a mother to my children," she wrote.

In response filed by prosecutors, they state the sentence is within the range of punishment allowed under the law and do not feel a modification is warranted.

Spottedcrow's case led to a groundswell of support through online petitions, donations to help her children and an Oklahoma City rally featuring Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips.

Welch said her case has attracted people for different reasons such as reform of drug laws, issues surrounding incarceration of women/mothers and excessive sentencing.

A prison reform bill was signed into law by Gov. Mary Fallin in May. It will increase the eligibility for offenders who can be considered for GPS monitoring and community sentencing, enforce a 30-day deadline for the governor to sign paroles for low-risk nonviolent offenders, and add criteria for Pardon and Parole Board members.

Welch said he is not sure any of the changes would have been a benefit to Spottedcrow or Starr.

"They have to be implemented, and judges and prosecutors must believe in them," Welch said. "This is a case screaming for help. The function of a judge is not just to punish people but to help people. That was lost in her case.

"It is time to change the mentality of judges that punishment is not always the best option. It's easy to step up to the podium and say, 'I'm tough on crime.' But it has consequences."

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: veggie]
    #15000282 - 08/30/11 03:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I hope the judge gets voted out next election season. Fuck this shit.

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: veggie]
    #15000285 - 08/30/11 03:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What a sad story.

If the president wanted to get the NORML vote without having to appear soft on drugs, at the very least he could pass a bill which would limit sentences for petty drug offenses.

The punishments do not fit the crime, and is indicitive of a perverted judicial system.

It simply boggles the mind how selling a miniscule amount of marijuana can be comparable to murder or child molestation in the eyes of the law.

This article (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2003/nov/30/mushrooms_v_murder/) discusses how someone growing a small amount of mushrooms got double the sentence of someone who shot someone 18 times and killed them.

Why isn't the prison population an issue in mainstream politics?


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Green_T]
    #15000364 - 08/30/11 04:27 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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If the president wanted to get the NORML vote without having to appear soft on drugs, at the very least he could pass a bill which would limit sentences for petty drug offenses.




The executive branch, which includes the President, does not pass legislation.  That job belongs to the legislative branch, which means Congress.  About all the President can do, other than ask Congress to consider a law, is to tell federal law enforcement to stop enforcing drug laws.


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Seuss]
    #15000372 - 08/30/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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If the president wanted to get the NORML vote without having to appear soft on drugs, at the very least he could pass a bill which would limit sentences for petty drug offenses.




The executive branch, which includes the President, does not pass legislation.  That job belongs to the legislative branch, which means Congress.  About all the President can do, other than ask Congress to consider a law, is to tell federal law enforcement to stop enforcing drug laws.




:themoreyouknow:

Thanks.

looks like people should be writing their congressmen.

Also, he should be telling federal law enforcement to cease the enforcement of drug laws.


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: Green_T]
    #15000431 - 08/30/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I know a guy who was caught with a few hundred images of child porn and had admitted to molesting a few boys that served 9 years :facepalm:


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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: veggie]
    #15188255 - 10/06/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sentence Reduced to 8 Years for Patricia Spottedcrow
October 6, 2011 - change.org



Patricia Spottedcrow, the 26 year-old mother of four who was convicted of selling $31 of marijuana to a police informant, has had her 12 year prison sentence reduced to eight years with four years of probation.

While the reduction in her sentence shows understanding, it is not justice and does not go far enough. As Spottedcrow's attorney, Josh Welch puts it, she shouldn't be in jail at all:

"Nobody understands why this woman is serving this long of a sentence for this type of crime. Look at other states; you can commit this same crime and it's not illegal. That's insane. She sold $30 of marijuana for gas money and food money for her family. It's stupid. It's wrong. But you don't go to prison for eight or 12 years for that. You shouldn't go to prison period."

Spottedcrow was scheduled to have a sentence modification hearing today where Kingfisher County Associate District Judge Robert E. Davis. would hear directly from her how she has changed and is ready to return to her family. Instead of giving Ms. Spottedcrow the chance to prove herself, Davis canceled the hearing and handed down the heavy sentence of eight years. Eight years for her to be away from her children, husband, and mother. And it's eight years that Oklahoma taxpayers will be footing the bill to needlessly keep a non-violent drug offender behind bars.

In the video below, Patricia Spottedcrow states that there are women in prison with her who are convicted of manslaughter and doing less time than she is for a first time marijuana offense.

"I sleep next to this girl here. She's in on manslaughter. She did three years. She was here for a year and now she's gone. I look around at all the people around me and they are here on trafficking two and three times, busted and busted, three and four prison sentences. They don't have near as much time as I do."

 More than 30,000 people have signed the petition in support of Patricia. And they're continuing to sign. If you haven't joined her campaign yet, do so here:
http://www.change.org/petitions/hon-robert-e-davis-remove-10-year-prison-sentence-for-moms-first-time-marijuana-offense

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: veggie]
    #15188605 - 10/06/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Oh gee, ONLY 8, woo-fucking-hoo :facepalm:

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Re: [OK] How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence [Re: shLong]
    #15190749 - 10/07/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What is more harmful to society:

A) An independent, free adult buys and uses $31 worth of weed.

B) A mother is put in prison for 8 years, taking one person from being a productive member of society to a burden on taxpayers, and permanently altering the lives of four children undoubtedly for the worse.


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