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the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on.......
    #9785311 - 02/12/09 02:51 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

so to not Jade this in any way where i got the idea will be a secret  (you know who you are but Shhhhhhhh !! for now)(chime in on the debate)

so i took 6 BRF cakes and went 2 ways....

first........ way was RR's Dunk & Roll followed Videos even while doing process for reminders and somthin to listen/watch. the full 24 hour dunk baked verm. then rolled and into FC. as RR said to me in previous post if you roll the tiny or even large .5-1.25 inch pins will probably be ruined. some recovered some aborted then growth ensued few days later.


second..... the other 3 cakes and after birthing cleaned them up took regular size grocery store flexy straw and cut away flex to leave a point and stabbed it into the top of the cake about half inch or more if you leak put in FC and filled the straw. 1 i had to jam the straw in deeper cause it keep leaking out. once in worked like a water tower !!!  for a couple of hours the straws empty once and a while but eventually they hold and only drink as absorbed/needed.


the Dunk & Roll 3 were given straws days later and look well i like the straw idea.

still Fan & Mist a bunch.

what are peoples thoughts on this ??? anyone else use this method ????



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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: smily]
    #9790798 - 02/13/09 02:31 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

sticking a straw in the cake works much better than soaking the cake in water over night. The cakes can absorb 5-10 cc's of water daily through the straw but only gets one shot at water with a dunk.

Everyone should try out both methods and see which works better.
It also might be best to roll the cake in verm also. 99% of the folks here have not the slightest idea how high the humidity should be so a layer of wet verm on the cake will help with that.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: tahoe]
    #9790830 - 02/13/09 02:44 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard of the straw method... on my first grow haven't had a chance to try it.

Tahoe:  Would you suggest using that method or would you suggest the dunk-n-roll?


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9790899 - 02/13/09 03:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

try it works great


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9792236 - 02/13/09 07:27 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
sticking a straw in the cake works much better than soaking the cake in water over night. The cakes can absorb 5-10 cc's of water daily through the straw but only gets one shot at water with a dunk.

Everyone should try out both methods and see which works better.
It also might be best to roll the cake in verm also. 99% of the folks here have not the slightest idea how high the humidity should be so a layer of wet verm on the cake will help with that.





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littleapplemm said:
I've heard of the straw method... on my first grow haven't had a chance to try it.

Tahoe:  Would you suggest using that method or would you suggest the dunk-n-roll?




is this some sort of trick question. The answer is blue


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: tahoe]
    #9795818 - 02/14/09 01:45 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think I'm gonna do the dunk-n-roll then after a couple days do the straw thing.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9864224 - 02/25/09 04:41 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

I just put straws in mine today... I did dunk them all for 24 hrs and I mist/fan several times a day.

Anyone else ever try this?  I know it's listed as one of the adaptations in the MMGG.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9864311 - 02/25/09 04:52 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

you can really see when they are fruiting the straw water level drops more rapidly

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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: smily]
    #9864330 - 02/25/09 04:55 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

Right now I'm waiting for them to pin, but one of my cakes has already drained a cc or two from the straw.  Took me a while to figure out how to fill the straws but I grabbed an eyedropper and all is good now.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9864343 - 02/25/09 04:56 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

or point the spray bottle at it and squirt it in

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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: smily]
    #9865106 - 02/25/09 07:04 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

or a syringe would be gold as well.  Is anyone using iodine water for this.  never done cakes just bulk but am experimenting with high humidity uncased manure tubs so supplementing water is a must as I have seen.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: JSshroom]
    #9865118 - 02/25/09 07:07 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

I'm just using straight tap water... No idea what adding iodine would do for the shrooms.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9865177 - 02/25/09 07:15 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

i use RO water

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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: smily]
    #9866347 - 02/25/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 25 days ago)

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i use RO water

:smile:




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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: littleapplemm]
    #9870877 - 02/26/09 04:44 PM (15 years, 24 days ago)

RO = reverse osmosis.

I use straight tap water with 1-2 drops of iodine added per gallon.  It is a long term contaminant control that will not affect the shrooms like peroxide or bleach.  When using large humidifiers like I do 18 gallon reservoir.  I fill them 1-2x a week.  If you dont do that then mold will grow in my fogger floats on the Styrofoam and in the air stone.  Also the water that pools under the greenhouses in the catch pan is contam resistant and usually just dries out with all the crazy fae my fan creates.

Do some searches on RO water purification.  That stuff is way over rated in my opinion.  It works great when you first get it but depending on the amount of filtering it is doing the membrane rapidly clogs reducing its efficiency.  Thus money and time replacing filters. 

if interested read up on all the types of filtered water.  Personally I prefer distilled or spring over anything else.


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    #14997727 - 08/29/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Was looking at some old posts to remember a few things and thought this was worth posting for a new generation of fungal farmer's to play with.


Enjoy
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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: tahoe]
    #14997821 - 08/29/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

tahoe said:
sticking a straw in the cake works much better than soaking the cake in water over night.




i totally disagree

putting holes in a substrate is never a good thing.

we spray our substrates with water to replenish the water used in the mushroom production.


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Re: the Straw vs. the Dunk & Roll..................anybody???????this thing on....... [Re: k00laid]
    #14997868 - 08/29/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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sticking a straw in the cake works much better than soaking the cake in water over night.




i totally disagree

putting holes in a substrate is never a good thing.

we spray our substrates with water to replenish the water used in the mushroom production.






Don't knock it till ya tried it .... Straw acts like a fuel Gage  in my experience bothwork fine I do like the straw personally though.


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    #14997900 - 08/29/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ive tried it.

the hole caught trichoderma in a few days


due to the standing water as well as the hole in the substrate

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    #14997918 - 08/29/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Ok well sorry for yer misfortune, I've had good luck with it and thought I'd share


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