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Does who said it make it true or untrue? 2
#14996861 - 08/29/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thead is for posting your favorite quotes with one stipulation. You cannot post who said it. Lets discuss these ideas without any attachment to the people behind them. Let them stand or fall on their own merits.
Now you may be able to guess who said them but please don't post it here.
I'll start and feel free to agree or disagree with any quote posted.
What, me worry?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#14997142 - 08/29/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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^ Possible confidence mask or a rhetoric question people use when someone tells them not to worry.
Your brain is god.
I have no idea who wrote this one. I just saw it on the shroomery once. Gave me a new perspective on duality, if that makes sense to anyone.
-------------------- "It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "A room without books is like a body without a soul." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#14997167 - 08/29/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Truth is relative. - Manson/Leary/Watts/McKenna/Wilson/Joyce/Dostoevsky/Huxley/Hofmann/Shakyamuni
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: The Whale]
#14997207 - 08/29/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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But some day we ought to be able to. Because it has already begun.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Man in the Box]
#14997326 - 08/29/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idle youth, enslaved to everything; by being too sensitive I have wasted my life.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: The Whale]
#14997551 - 08/29/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Whale said: Truth is relative. - Manson/Leary/Watts/McKenna/Wilson/Joyce/Dostoevsky/Huxley/Hofmann/Shakyamuni
Well it seems you can't read instructions.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#14997563 - 08/29/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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dustinthewind13 said: ^ Possible confidence mask or a rhetoric question people use when someone tells them not to worry.
Your brain is god.
I have no idea who wrote this one. I just saw it on the shroomery once. Gave me a new perspective on duality, if that makes sense to anyone.
was my sig pic for awhile back in the day.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#14997738 - 08/29/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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you're breaking tha rules too icelander!
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Now you may be able to guess who said them but please don't post it here.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#14997745 - 08/29/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you draw it or am I not allowed to ask that?
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: deff]
#14997983 - 08/29/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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deff said: you're breaking tha rules too icelander!
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Now you may be able to guess who said them but please don't post it here.

No I'm not, you cannot post your guess in the thread.
I have no idea who said that?
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#14997992 - 08/29/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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dustinthewind13 said: Did you draw it or am I not allowed to ask that? 
I did not say it or draw it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Grapefruit]
#14998198 - 08/29/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: Idle youth, enslaved to everything; by being too sensitive I have wasted my life.
"Twas ever thus."
-------------------- "It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "A room without books is like a body without a soul." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#14998349 - 08/29/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Only cowards die before they die."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#14998944 - 08/29/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
dustinthewind13 said:
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Grapefruit said: Idle youth, enslaved to everything; by being too sensitive I have wasted my life.
"Twas ever thus."
I of course know this one. Truly a powerful statement for those who are students of human nature and history.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#14999219 - 08/29/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I'll start and feel free to agree or disagree with any quote posted.
What, me worry?
I disagree.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Satyapriya]
#14999228 - 08/29/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Shrooomtastic said: "Only cowards die before they die."
well that makes little sense to me.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Kickle]
#14999238 - 08/29/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step"
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Kickle]
#14999248 - 08/29/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kickle said:
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Shrooomtastic said: "Only cowards die before they die."
well that makes little sense to me.
The person who said it is talking about having the courage to feel and not shutting out your suffering, not letting yourself become a walking zombie like much of the rest of humanity. The kind of death where the soul dies but the body and mind live on.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Satyapriya]
#14999259 - 08/29/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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i see
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Kickle]
#14999300 - 08/29/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am jesus
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy] 1
#14999339 - 08/29/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Believe in those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who claim to have found it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Drum]
#14999588 - 08/29/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice one
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy]
#15000019 - 08/30/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here are 3 that I like a lot:
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive and then go do that. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
"If you deliberately plan to be less than you are capable of becoming then youβll be deeply unhappy for the rest of your life. You will be evading your own capacities, your own possibilities."
"A new scientific truth does not trump by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it."
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- Too close, you can't recognize it.
- Too profound, you can't appreciate it.
- Too simple, you can't believe it.
- Too good, you can't accept it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: smiro]
#15000109 - 08/30/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really like that first one.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15000130 - 08/30/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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How is it possible that a being with such sensitive jewels as the eyes, such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and such fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself anything less than a god.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: PatrickKn]
#15005045 - 08/31/11 03:20 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no good and evil, there is only power... and those too weak to seek it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: deCypher] 1
#15005364 - 08/31/11 07:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow
This is a great example of what I'm talking about. Due to the fact I don't know who said this somewhat inflammatory quote I really get to focus on what's being said and if I believe it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: deCypher]
#15005642 - 08/31/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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deCypher said: There is no good and evil, there is only power... and those too weak to seek it.
"Ultimate power is the ability to transcend society and culture."
Edited by dustinthewind13 (08/31/11 08:59 AM)
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15005768 - 08/31/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Most all humans believe history begins and ends with their lifetime."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15005813 - 08/31/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"If, in the course of a thousand or two thousand years, science arrives at the necessity of renewing its points of view, that will not mean that science is a liar. Science cannot lie, for it's always striving, according to the momentary state of knowledge, to deduce what is true. When it makes a mistake, it does so in good faith. It is Christianity that is the liar. It's in perpetual conflict with itself."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Poid]
#15005838 - 08/31/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Poid]
#15005982 - 08/31/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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killer quote
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15005989 - 08/31/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"If you can't win with the truth then you better start lying"
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15006042 - 08/31/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I learned that as a young boy dealing with Mom and Dad.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15006064 - 08/31/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- "It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "A room without books is like a body without a soul." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#15006357 - 08/31/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
FishOilTheKid said:
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
The person who said this is the reason i put my hands in the honey jar 
-------------------- The 4 slogans of Your already-enlightened Self:
- Too close, you can't recognize it.
- Too profound, you can't appreciate it.
- Too simple, you can't believe it.
- Too good, you can't accept it.
-------------------------------------------------------- Subject becomes object - Ken Wilber [VIDEO] | Your Mission - Terrance Mckenna [VIDEO] "The giants know that this stuff is animate. This is not a drug. Itβs something thatβs disguising itself as a drug in order not to spread alarm." - Terence McKenna
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
#15006435 - 08/31/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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FishOilTheKid said:
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"We have to create culture, don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are now is the most immediate sector of your universe, and if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are disempowered, you're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion, and what is real is you and your friends and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral. 'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.' And then you're a player, you don't want to even play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world."
Wow I missed this one.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander] 1
#15006478 - 08/31/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Reality is an inside joke."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: smiro]
#15006567 - 08/31/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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...cast your nets down did ya...??
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15010909 - 09/01/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"A day will dawn when you will yourself laugh at your past efforts. That which will be on the day you laugh is also here and now."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: HeartAndMind]
#15011009 - 09/01/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"It's History that's caused all the troubles in the past."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Primal Glitch]
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15011439 - 09/01/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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dustinthewind13 said: "If you can't win with the truth then you better start lying"
until you can work out how to win with the truth
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy]
#15011571 - 09/01/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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A worthy goal and imo the one that ultimately frees. One step at a time however. And when lying I try never to dramatically hurt anyone. Usually not worth it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15011786 - 09/01/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Love cannot save you from your own fate."
-------------------- βStrengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that Iβve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I willβ and I will have the will, strengthened as Iβll be with contemplation and studyβ at the crucial moments Iβll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.β
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Lion]
#15011898 - 09/01/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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No it sure can't but it can make the ride more enjoyable.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Lion]
#15011910 - 09/01/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lion said: "Love cannot save you from your own fate."
Perhaps love alters our fate.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15011913 - 09/01/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or the the way we experience our fate.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15011919 - 09/01/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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exactly
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15011972 - 09/01/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's another one I like:
"Things are more likely now than they ever were before."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15012123 - 09/01/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like this thread.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15012478 - 09/01/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy]
#15012521 - 09/01/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Noteworthy said:
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dustinthewind13 said: "If you can't win with the truth then you better start lying"
until you can work out how to win with the truth
The only way I can see someone winning in such a situation is by admitting they are wrong.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15012772 - 09/01/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your name inspired me to post this famous quote
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude. Dust. Wind. Dude."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: White Beard]
#15012954 - 09/01/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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To me it represents how small and insignificant each individuals life is. No matter how important me or someone else thinks we are, the fact that our lives are short and unimportant in the whole of the space-time continuum doesn't change. If life on earth lives in a positive or negative utopia might be important to people, but no matter which one we live in we are still only a very very... very small part of the universe. If we become extinct the universe will keep on keeping on. IMO forever.
"The dinosaurs became extinct and so can we" or something like that.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: blewmeanie]
#15013438 - 09/01/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
I'm in big trouble dood.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15013447 - 09/01/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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dustinthewind13 said: To me it represents how small and insignificant each individuals life is. No matter how important me or someone else thinks we are, the fact that our lives are short and unimportant in the whole of the space-time continuum doesn't change. If life on earth lives in a positive or negative utopia might be important to people, but no matter which one we live in we are still only a very very... very small part of the universe. If we become extinct the universe will keep on keeping on. IMO forever.
"The dinosaurs became extinct and so can we" or something like that.
Our little garage band loved that song.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15013603 - 09/01/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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blewmeanie said: Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
I'm in big trouble dood.

Here's a rather strange one that stirs something peculiar and rather eerie within me.
Oh, grassy glades! oh, ever vernal endless landscapes in the soul; in ye, β though long parched by the dead drought of the earthy life, β in ye, men yet may roll, like young horses in new morning clover; and for some few fleeting moments, feel the cool dew of the life immortal on them. Would to God these blessed calms would last. But the mingled, mingling threads of life are woven by warp and woof: calms crossed by storms, a storm for every calm. There is no steady unretracing progress in this life; we do not advance through fixed gradations, and at the last one pause: β through infancyβs unconscious spell, boyhoodβs thoughtless faith, adolescenceβ doubt (the common doom), then scepticism, then disbelief, resting at last in manhoodβs pondering repose of If. But once gone through, we trace the round again; and are infants, boys, and men, and Ifs eternally. Where lies the final harbor, whence we unmoor no more? In what rapt ether sails the world, of which the weariest will never weary? Where is the foundlingβs father hidden? Our souls are like those orphans whose unwedded mothers die in bearing them: the secret of our paternity lies in their grave, and we must there to learn it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Grapefruit]
#15013674 - 09/01/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow
That reminds me of a little ditty that had meaning for me at one time.
And unmoored souls might be overthrown by winds that would not even stir a hair
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15013723 - 09/01/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's similar indeed. I like prose when it doesn't quite make sense but seems to connect somewhere, makes a book a bit more of a trip.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15013732 - 09/01/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"History is lies agreed upon."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Scarab74]
#15013754 - 09/01/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scarab74 said: "History is lies agreed upon."
Sounds Orwellian.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15016549 - 09/02/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"You know what thought did? Thought he had to fart and shit his pants."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Kickle]
#15018423 - 09/02/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"All religions will pass, but this will remain: simply sitting in a chair and looking in the distance."
As true for religions as it is about the sequence of moments that make up my own life. Is it really almost a decade ago I registered at the Shroomery as a lost 16-year-old looking for some truth in his shitty world? Goddamnit. I'm still looking, not that much closer but honestly a hell of a lot more comfortable with the chase This is a beautiful place, I need to start coming back here
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: mr_kite]
#15018439 - 09/02/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please do.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: mr_kite]
#15018656 - 09/02/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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mr_kite said: "All religions will pass, but this will remain: simply sitting in a chair and looking in the distance."
As true for religions as it is about the sequence of moments that make up my own life. Is it really almost a decade ago I registered at the Shroomery as a lost 16-year-old looking for some truth in his shitty world? Goddamnit. I'm still looking, not that much closer but honestly a hell of a lot more comfortable with the chase This is a beautiful place, I need to start coming back here
Yea. I first came here somewhere around that age too. I was mostly a lurker and my rare posts were just to try and be part of the Shroomery and pretty stupid if you ask me . Don't know how much smarter they are now, but I'm guessing it couldn't be worse than back then .
This place was as big of a mind fuck as mushrooms were. I was actually skeptic and thought that this place was run by the government for a while. A Big Brotherish paranoia . I even got so paranoid that I started deleting all of my posts in my previous account. Like you I also believe I'm much less troubled and comfortable than I was back then. The Shroomery among other things has a lot to do with this IMO. That is what it's all about right? people trying to steer others towards the light (of course I'm right ). With the exception of trolls of course.
Anyway. I'm not leaving this place until I die.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15018692 - 09/02/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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See not that it is a part of you, but you a part of it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: teknix]
#15018712 - 09/02/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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teknix said: See not that it is a part of you, but you a part of it.
Oh. I meant the posts I used to post. Hehe. Should have worded that better. Isn't it a part of me, if I am a part of it though?
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