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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15010909 - 09/01/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"A day will dawn when you will yourself laugh at your past efforts. That which will be on the day you laugh is also here and now."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: HeartAndMind]
#15011009 - 09/01/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"It's History that's caused all the troubles in the past."
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make the changa you wish to see in the world gnome sayin'?
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Primal Glitch]
#15011014 - 09/01/11 09:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15011439 - 09/01/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
dustinthewind13 said: "If you can't win with the truth then you better start lying"
until you can work out how to win with the truth
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy]
#15011571 - 09/01/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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A worthy goal and imo the one that ultimately frees. One step at a time however. And when lying I try never to dramatically hurt anyone. Usually not worth it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15011786 - 09/01/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Love cannot save you from your own fate."
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Icelander
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Lion]
#15011898 - 09/01/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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No it sure can't but it can make the ride more enjoyable.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Lion]
#15011910 - 09/01/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lion said: "Love cannot save you from your own fate."
Perhaps love alters our fate.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15011913 - 09/01/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or the the way we experience our fate.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15011919 - 09/01/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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exactly
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15011972 - 09/01/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's another one I like:
"Things are more likely now than they ever were before."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#15012123 - 09/01/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like this thread.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15012478 - 09/01/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Noteworthy]
#15012521 - 09/01/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Noteworthy said:
Quote:
dustinthewind13 said: "If you can't win with the truth then you better start lying"
until you can work out how to win with the truth
The only way I can see someone winning in such a situation is by admitting they are wrong.
-------------------- "It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "A room without books is like a body without a soul." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15012772 - 09/01/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your name inspired me to post this famous quote
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude. Dust. Wind. Dude."
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: White Beard]
#15012954 - 09/01/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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To me it represents how small and insignificant each individuals life is. No matter how important me or someone else thinks we are, the fact that our lives are short and unimportant in the whole of the space-time continuum doesn't change. If life on earth lives in a positive or negative utopia might be important to people, but no matter which one we live in we are still only a very very... very small part of the universe. If we become extinct the universe will keep on keeping on. IMO forever.
"The dinosaurs became extinct and so can we" or something like that.
-------------------- "It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "A room without books is like a body without a soul." - Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: blewmeanie]
#15013438 - 09/01/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
I'm in big trouble dood.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: dustinthewind13]
#15013447 - 09/01/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
dustinthewind13 said: To me it represents how small and insignificant each individuals life is. No matter how important me or someone else thinks we are, the fact that our lives are short and unimportant in the whole of the space-time continuum doesn't change. If life on earth lives in a positive or negative utopia might be important to people, but no matter which one we live in we are still only a very very... very small part of the universe. If we become extinct the universe will keep on keeping on. IMO forever.
"The dinosaurs became extinct and so can we" or something like that.
Our little garage band loved that song.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Icelander]
#15013603 - 09/01/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
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blewmeanie said: Consequently he who wishes to attain to human perfection, must therefore first study Logic, next the various branches of Mathematics in their proper order, then Physics, and lastly Metaphysics.
I'm in big trouble dood.

Here's a rather strange one that stirs something peculiar and rather eerie within me.
Oh, grassy glades! oh, ever vernal endless landscapes in the soul; in ye, — though long parched by the dead drought of the earthy life, — in ye, men yet may roll, like young horses in new morning clover; and for some few fleeting moments, feel the cool dew of the life immortal on them. Would to God these blessed calms would last. But the mingled, mingling threads of life are woven by warp and woof: calms crossed by storms, a storm for every calm. There is no steady unretracing progress in this life; we do not advance through fixed gradations, and at the last one pause: — through infancy’s unconscious spell, boyhood’s thoughtless faith, adolescence’ doubt (the common doom), then scepticism, then disbelief, resting at last in manhood’s pondering repose of If. But once gone through, we trace the round again; and are infants, boys, and men, and Ifs eternally. Where lies the final harbor, whence we unmoor no more? In what rapt ether sails the world, of which the weariest will never weary? Where is the foundling’s father hidden? Our souls are like those orphans whose unwedded mothers die in bearing them: the secret of our paternity lies in their grave, and we must there to learn it.
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Re: Does who said it make it true or untrue? [Re: Grapefruit]
#15013674 - 09/01/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow
That reminds me of a little ditty that had meaning for me at one time.
And unmoored souls might be overthrown by winds that would not even stir a hair
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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