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Acceptance of what is
    #1499405 - 04/28/03 01:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Is not all of our suffering caused by resistance to what is? Im not talking about physical pain - because this in itself is not suffering. This is just pain on the physical level. Its a good thing, in itself.

The mind is the cause of suffering, simply because of our own clinging and resistence to what is. The moment we accept our situation and our inner body and mind is the moment we are filled with an inncer peace.

If you dont believe me, try it yourself.


What do you guys think?


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1499435 - 04/28/03 01:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

how could there be anything but.

The mind of man is compelled to make all sorts of illusionary distractions.
Desire...
er...
you may find that the more people look for something other, they'll become more and more distracted from the peace that's always there and available...

the only thing that ever changes is our perceptions..

maybe..

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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1499469 - 04/28/03 01:45 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

im glad you can see my view!



But, if humans suddenly realize the peace that already exists within, that would be bad, right?

What would become of the american economy, of all the enterainment machines and what not - when we realize we already have peace.

Consumerism and a wide-scale Enlightenment cannot exist together. The question is, which one is going to prevail in the long run?

Will humans fully awaken from our state of unconsciousness?


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1499488 - 04/28/03 01:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

accept what you cannot change, like suffering.

but progress is made by those who refuse to accept.


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1499534 - 04/28/03 02:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree.


Acceptence does not mean a cease to progress, in fact the best progress can come by someone who fully surrenders and accepts what is.


This does not mean not changing things externally - it just means having no resistance to what is.


You can still disagree what what is happening, and make changes accordingly - but your inner peace is no longer effected by it. You accept the presence , and the current situation - and then you change it or progress based on that acceptance.



Many people confuse acceptence and surrending with giving in, but in reality true surrender and true acceptence are just facing reality, and having the mentality of "This is how it is happening right now". That doesnt mean you cant make changes accordingly.


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1499555 - 04/28/03 02:11 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

can you accept that you might be wrong?
can you accept that progress is made by those who refuse to accept?
can you accept that there are certain things where we should lose our cool, lose our peace and say to hell with this! I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!!! I will not accept this BULLSHIT!!!!!

can you accept that?


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1499612 - 04/28/03 02:29 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

sure I can accept that you may do all of that



Everyone can do what they wish.



But I have a question for you.


If you have anger or unwanted feelings inside of you because of your very own unacceptence, yet you are trying to fight against or stop the very thing you believe to cause this anger - are you not trying to bite your own tail?


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1499640 - 04/28/03 02:36 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I have anger. I have unwanted feelings inside. This is totally natural... can you accept THAT?


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1499671 - 04/28/03 02:43 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I think they are very little people who can truely devote themselves to acceptance. Everyone has their boundaries of what they can and cannot accept. One might be able to accept who he/she is, but the human mind is full of too many questions to accept the universe they live in.


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: djd586]
    #1499843 - 04/28/03 04:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"Is not all of our suffering caused by resistance to what is? "

no, lots of our suffering is caused by things that shouldnt exist, and that can be stopped and avoided. like war.

if someone bombs your house and kills your family, you will suffer.

if your family was murdered in such a way, would you just accept "what is"?

no, you wouldnt, you would cling to your memories of them, and seek vengence. which is a healthy thing to do. there are a lot of things in reality people dont have to accept.


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1500883 - 04/28/03 04:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree again.


Recently my grandfather passed away, with who I was very close to. I very, very easily accepted it, and didnt resist it at all.

Now of course I cried, and felt bad - but I showed nonresistance to what is.

If anyone else close to me died, I would do the same. I would cry, let the real intense emotions come - but not resist them.

Remember, the ONLY true way to handle things like this is acceptence, all other forms are illusions. Having the emotions, no matter how strong - is not bad at all. But letting them control you, that brings you into an illusion, and clouds your mind. It is VERY unhealthy, in my opinion


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: tekramrepus]
    #1500887 - 04/28/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Wise words friend


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Re: Acceptance of what is [Re: Shroomism]
    #1501308 - 04/28/03 06:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

okay, supermerket....we are talking about too very different examples here, you are arguing my example of uneeded death, with an example of a death that everyone experiences.

the difference is, that one didnt have to happen, while the other was going to happen no matter what, and this difference complicates a persons ability to "accept what is". of course, maybe my example could be seen as extreme if you live in a war-free country, where bombs arent dropped on a regular basis. but in many regions of the world......peoples lives are over-run by these uneeded deaths....which fuels alot of hatred and anger....but its not as if they can just "accept" their reality....they have to fight it.


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