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Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still?
    #1499163 - 04/28/03 12:16 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

He was diagnosed with Alzheimers disease last year and is finishing his reign as NRA president. Should people with this kind of disease be allowed to posess guns? Not just trying to rag on Heston here but on people who suffer from these types of problems.

I remember my next door neighbor who had it chasing these poor Chinese kids down the street cause he thought they were stealing his hose, in reality they were using their own hose. It wasn't his fault cause he couldnt realy help it.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1499180 - 04/28/03 12:20 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

"...from my cold, dead...uh...what's the word again?"


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1500031 - 04/28/03 06:51 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

kick em when he's down.....


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500698 - 04/28/03 03:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Yep, before he gets even crazier and starts shooting.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1500704 - 04/28/03 03:07 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

at least you're consistant i suppose....


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500715 - 04/28/03 03:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Actually I think it's a valid question...What is the current law concerning people with a metally debilitating disease and gun ownership? Is there one? or is the onus on the individual himself?


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Rono]
    #1500735 - 04/28/03 03:19 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Well...Theres no law against being crazy, so I dont see how there can be a law against having a gun when your crazy. Theres a big difference between alzheimers and psychosis...I mean, just 'cause you have a bad memory doesnt mean your gonna start shooting anything that moves, eh?


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1500745 - 04/28/03 03:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You have obviously never met a person with Alzheimers...it's not pretty and there is far more involved than just being forgetful.

And I'm pretty sure there is a law banning "crazy" people from owning firearms...


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500851 - 04/28/03 03:55 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Blind people should be allowed to drive.

It's their civil right.

People with infectous T.B. should be allowed to work in school caffeterias too.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Rono]
    #1500911 - 04/28/03 04:11 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

oh, don't get me wrong he shouldn't have a gun if he's been dianosed with Alzheimers disease. I was just making a comment about kicking him when he's down.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1500959 - 04/28/03 04:31 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

He's Charlton Heston, he's one of the most respected actors of all time, and he's rich as fuck.

He may have Alzheimer's, but he's certainly not "down".


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Phluck]
    #1500976 - 04/28/03 04:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

all the money in the world couldn't make me feel better if i had Alzheimer's...i was refering to him on a personal level, not monatary.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1502876 - 04/29/03 01:38 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Showing up at Littleton a week after the shooting was kicking them when they were down and as well.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1503288 - 04/29/03 04:52 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

They should let him keep his gun on the chance that he kills himself.

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    #1503353 - 04/29/03 05:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

They should let him keep his gun on the chance that he kills himself.



Or better yet, John Ashcroft.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1503775 - 04/29/03 11:09 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Quote:

They should let him keep his gun on the chance that he kills himself.



Or better yet, John Ashcroft.



Best response yet.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1503811 - 04/29/03 11:26 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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Showing up at Littleton a week after the shooting was kicking them when they were down and as well.




Apples and Oranges my man..and you know it.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1503897 - 04/29/03 12:02 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. What are a few grieving families whose children were killed by gun violence compared to an aging celebrity who's losing his memory?


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1503983 - 04/29/03 12:41 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

well for starters he has a disease and the others were killed by a PERSON with a gun....unless they came out with that gun that kills on its own.....


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1503992 - 04/29/03 12:45 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

hahahahahh

Conservatives vs liberals. Its like Crossfire in here, remember ten years ago when that show was still good. I loved watching that every day.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: pattern]
    #1503999 - 04/29/03 12:46 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Crosstalk? Never heard of it.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1504052 - 04/29/03 01:06 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Dont you mean "Crossfire"?  :tongue:


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1504062 - 04/29/03 01:08 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

If he is found to be legally incompetent then they can take his weapons. Someone would have to file a motion to have him declared so, and go through the process. That would be fine with me.

Like Rono said, Alzheimer's is a lot more than losing your memory. A friend of mine worked in the 'combative ward' of an alzheimer's clinic, and she would come home with black eyes from old geezers suddenly freaking out.



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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1504073 - 04/29/03 01:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I have no doubt Charlton makes more sense now than he ever did as NRA president.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1504083 - 04/29/03 01:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Did he make any sense when he was marching alongside Martin Luther King?


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1504191 - 04/29/03 01:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Did he make any sense by not eating babies?No one has said he is the antichrist who has done nothing but wrong.. Not that I think he is pure evil but when you're gonna talk about this issue why not talk about a prime example.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1504200 - 04/29/03 01:49 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

OK, fair enough.


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1506466 - 04/30/03 02:04 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

What the hell did he think he was doing in Littleton.

Is he insane, or just mean?


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1506487 - 04/30/03 02:17 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)


Here's a dicussion topic: If Alois Shicklgruber didn't constantly beat the shit out of Baby Hitler would their have been a WW II? Discuss


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    #1506932 - 04/30/03 08:41 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Talk amongst yourselves..


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Re: Should Charelton Heston be allowed to have a gun still? [Re: Innvertigo]
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    #1507401 - 04/30/03 01:22 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

we have a winner...

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