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InvisibleMezcal
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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: schmutzen]
    #6504490 - 01/28/07 09:43 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

600mg is quite a trip- my only experience with mescaline at that dosage showed me that its something that really fits on somewhat of an annual (or even less frequent) schedule. Unwinding the experience is a task in and of itself!


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mezcal]
    #6504508 - 01/28/07 09:57 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

If you are using cactus, the alkaloids will be shuffled differently from cactus to cactus. Mescaline is not easy if you go very far with it. Divine, yes, easy no. It will mind fuck as much as mushrooms and will last three times as long. My last cactus experiences were so intense, I was scared until I just stopped fighting it. These came from one very, very powerful pachanoi. It caught me very off gaurd the first time I used that cactus. Prior to this, cactus were more of an up, energetic buzz with mild visuals. The last cactus disolved the ego. Anyone who tells you cactus are easier, has obviously not found the right cactus.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mourningdove]
    #6504515 - 01/28/07 10:03 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

I understand that now, but i still keep getting very weak cacti. The dry material thats going around on the net just sucks compared to buying the live plants.


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InvisibleMezcal
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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mourningdove]
    #6504528 - 01/28/07 10:15 AM (17 years, 29 days ago)

I think that there are two factors that contribute to the perception that mescaline is "easier" than other psychedelics;

a) It's a phenethylamine, which generally have a more comfortable profile even with increasing dosages. The mindfuck is not absent, just less intense than with other classes of drugs.

b) It's often difficult to consume a heavy dose of mescaline due to the common form of eating cactus or a tea. When dealing with a pure substance, it's not THAT hard to eat a huge dose, but certainly most people who use mescaline do so without isolating the alkaloid component from the cactus and have no real idea about how much they've taken.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mezcal]
    #6507999 - 01/29/07 10:19 AM (17 years, 28 days ago)

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snyder said:
I The mindfuck is not absent, just less intense than with other classes of drugs.






Not true! Again, if you go far enough, the comparison game is not relevant. It will be very intense.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mourningdove]
    #6508743 - 01/29/07 03:25 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

In regards to "effective dosages" I would say that it is true. There can be significant confusion on a single dose of psilocybin-containing mushrooms, whereas a dosage of peyote is highly unlikely to produce confusion. Certainly, if you take enough mescaline, you might be prone to "mindfuck" but I think it's far less likely at normal doses with many other drugs.

I've only taken mescaline about 5 times though (though I can personally attest to it's absolute purity, so I am certain that's what it was.)


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mezcal]
    #6509646 - 01/29/07 07:18 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

I am getting 80 bucks at the end of the month and wanted to learn what has more mescaline, San Pedro or Peruvian Torch. I wanted to know what's the easiest preparation. And is eighty bucks going to cover three trips worth.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Mourningdove]
    #6510045 - 01/29/07 08:53 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

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Mourningdove said:
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snyder said:
I The mindfuck is not absent, just less intense than with other classes of drugs.






Not true! Again, if you go far enough, the comparison game is not relevant. It will be very intense.



I'd love to know how you can speak for the rest of humanity in this issue. I've had many, many mescaline trips induced by methods ranging from encapsulation to alcohol extraction to full alkaloid extraction. Every single trip that I have ever had from mescaline, has been completely coherent. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. I can enjoy large doses and not worry about losing my shit because of twisted crazy thoughts. Shrooms almost always send me reeling for at least a few moment during each trip. Mescaline has never made me confused or disoriented in any way, other that blinding real visuals.

My experiences with mescaline have been the most sober trips of any drug I've tried so far.

As always, your mileage may vary. For you, mescaline could be the most mind fucking substance that's ever entered your body. But that gives you no right to say that it isgoing to be the same for everyone.

800 mgs of this

and I walked with friends to watch Victor Wooten lay down some awesome sounds with his bass. I conversed with strangers and had a great time, without the slightest bit of mind fuck.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Ekstaza]
    #6510220 - 01/29/07 09:42 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

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Ekstaza said:
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Mourningdove said:
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snyder said:
I The mindfuck is not absent, just less intense than with other classes of drugs.






Not true! Again, if you go far enough, the comparison game is not relevant. It will be very intense.



I'd love to know how you can speak for the rest of humanity in this issue. I've had many, many mescaline trips induced by methods ranging from encapsulation to alcohol extraction to full alkaloid extraction. Every single trip that I have ever had from mescaline, has been completely coherent. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. I can enjoy large doses and not worry about losing my shit because of twisted crazy thoughts. Shrooms almost always send me reeling for at least a few moment during each trip. Mescaline has never made me confused or disoriented in any way, other that blinding real visuals.

My experiences with mescaline have been the most sober trips of any drug I've tried so far.

As always, your mileage may vary. For you, mescaline could be the most mind fucking substance that's ever entered your body. But that gives you no right to say that it isgoing to be the same for everyone.

800 mgs of this

and I walked with friends to watch Victor Wooten lay down some awesome sounds with his bass. I conversed with strangers and had a great time, without the slightest bit of mind fuck.


That's one of the things I heard that mescaline is pretty easy to handle.


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: etard2]
    #6510507 - 01/29/07 10:48 PM (17 years, 28 days ago)

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That's one of the things I heard that mescaline is pretty easy to handle.




too the experienced tripper, sure, but it can still throw you for a loop if your not careful


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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Ekstaza]
    #6512079 - 01/30/07 11:55 AM (17 years, 27 days ago)

If you paid attention, you would notice that I never said it would be the same for everyone! Perhaps for you it is a breeze, but I am getting the impression that a lot of the guys on this board have not gone very far with it and write it off as a mild high. That just is not the case for everyone. And I'll bet you never tried my holy grail Pedro...

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Ekstaza said:
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Mourningdove said:
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snyder said:
I The mindfuck is not absent, just less intense than with other classes of drugs.






Not true! Again, if you go far enough, the comparison game is not relevant. It will be very intense.



I'd love to know how you can speak for the rest of humanity in this issue. I've had many, many mescaline trips induced by methods ranging from encapsulation to alcohol extraction to full alkaloid extraction. Every single trip that I have ever had from mescaline, has been completely coherent. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. I can enjoy large doses and not worry about losing my shit because of twisted crazy thoughts. Shrooms almost always send me reeling for at least a few moment during each trip. Mescaline has never made me confused or disoriented in any way, other that blinding real visuals.

My experiences with mescaline have been the most sober trips of any drug I've tried so far.

As always, your mileage may vary. For you, mescaline could be the most mind fucking substance that's ever entered your body. But that gives you no right to say that it isgoing to be the same for everyone.

800 mgs of this

and I walked with friends to watch Victor Wooten lay down some awesome sounds with his bass. I conversed with strangers and had a great time, without the slightest bit of mind fuck.




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Re: Heavy dose of mescaline [Re: Ekstaza]
    #14980652 - 08/26/11 06:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm surprised you head didn't Explode. Victor is a monster.:eek:


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