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Magic Mushroom Wine
    #1497435 - 04/27/03 08:58 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Having found a recipe for (normal edible) mushroom wine, I was wondering if anyone has tried making any with a psychoactive species, and whether the psychoactive chemicals remain active after the fermentation process is complete.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #1497440 - 04/27/03 09:08 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard of beer using psychoactive mushrooms,so I see no reason it would'nt work.I think that I would use them whole in the recipe and leave them in something like a wort bag during the primary fermentation so they don't end up with the dead yeast,and thrown out before they're fully extracted. How about your recipe? I'ld like to take a look at it.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Pinhead]
    #1497676 - 04/27/03 12:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I think I already saw a recipe for that. Its either on this site or erowid. Check it out.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Pinhead]
    #1498065 - 04/27/03 04:10 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The recipe can be found at:

http://duramecho.com/Food/NoveltyWines.html

As far as a recipe on Shroomery.org is concerned, I did several searches and found nothing, I'm afraid.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #1498086 - 04/27/03 04:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

this recipe calls for "Cook & liquidise 1 kg of normal edible mushrooms until they are rendered down to a blackish slimy mass". Wouldnt this process destroy the psilocybin?

Hmm maybe after your wine is in secondary fermenting stage, you could add mushroom powder, let it soak in, then later filter it out.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: pattern]
    #1498117 - 04/27/03 04:39 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

pattern, brings up a point. I don't think the whole "cook & liquidize" portion is a great thing. However, once could certainly do an extraction and then add that to a wine of choice, or even the mushroom wine. I don't think this woudl world with your psilocybes.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1499103 - 04/27/03 11:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

add mushrooms to wine you buy at the store, shake it up, let it sit maybe a week, then enjoy. you can filter out the shrooms if you want or you can leave them in.



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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: the spiral]
    #1499903 - 04/28/03 04:43 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

An ethanol extraction added to fruit juice would make a sort of wine too. Be sure NOT to use methanol!!


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Pinhead]
    #1500020 - 04/28/03 06:42 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

er....yeah, thanks! I'm not a TOTAL novice you know! What about adding some glycol to help sweeten it down? lol ;-)


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #1500081 - 04/28/03 08:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Was'nt trying to call you stupid. Thats how the whole rumor about improperly distilled alcohol making you go blind started, someone ADDED methanol to spirits because they did'nt know the difference (Ethanol vs. Methanol).I know that there will be someone out there who still beleives that you can go blind drinking moonshine..so fire away.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Pinhead]
    #1520295 - 05/04/03 09:50 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

No offence taken!


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #14878144 - 08/05/11 08:22 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i know this is an old thread but im reviving it, the lib caps are soon to be among us and i wanted to discuss some ways to make wine,

i was thinking of picking, drying and blending the libs until powdered.
then add about 5-600 libs worth of dust to a demijohn, warm up 2 squeezy bottles of honey (its going to be a mead)

add the honey to the demi with the dust,
add 2 ltrs of white grape juice.
top up with boiled water once its cooled.

when at room temperature pitch yeast.

let ferment for a month,
siphon into secondary fermentation chamber leaving the mash/slop behind and leave for a further month.

bottle.

age for at least a month, mead tastes nicer the longer it ages. try keep a bottle for a year :laugh:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #14878896 - 08/05/11 11:20 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I read the Kamchadals prepare a wine by fermenting a mixture of Amanita muscaria and bogberry juice... I think they would drink it with Carabou milk.

I researched it a bit and here's where the possible Amanita Milk Potentiation Brandy comes in (Is the copy-paste acceptable?  Let me know if not and I'll fix it):

catfishrivers4th November 2009, 04:47 PM
"I read about this 4000 year old preparation technique for Amanita muscaria in Amanita muscaria: herb of immortality (http://www.ambrosiasociety.org/files/herbofimmortality.pdf). Basically, the dried mushroom is left to "ferment" in sour milk, which I'm guessing changes the chemical make up somehow and results in the supposed more potent brew, stronger than ambrosia (the water extract of Amanita m.) or eating the plain dried caps alone.


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teeko5th November 2009, 07:43 AM
All i have heard putting Amanita's in milk was used for, was to kill flys.
But that is obviously having some kind of reaction that attracts them even more than the mushroom itself.

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catfishrivers5th November 2009, 09:05 AM
Well the dude I see sometimes told me that he actually tried this preparation recently. He took roughly 5 grams of cracker dry caps and crumbled them into 8 oz of 2% milk (not soured) and let it sit, covered with a cloth, for 12 hours, and then strained out the mushrooms, squeezing to acquire every last bit of milk back. He described the milk as having taken on the taste of the mushroom, in a way that actually did not taste bad, sort of rich and earthy tasting as he described it. He mixed it with honey, and felt that the beverage served this way was actually somewhat luxurious. If he had perhaps added a few spices, like nutmeg or cinnamon, or similar, the drink might have been a real treat to taste.

He said the effects did not so much seem to be increased for that dosage, but the overall character of the experience was seemingly more apparent taking the mushroom this way. Sitting in the dark listening to Brian Eno's Discreet Music, he said he was seeing the geometric phantasmal shapes of "something else" that seemed sentient, or at least reactive to the dude's own movements. At one point, the dude felt a bit creeped out by the phantasmal geometries and started to employ a protective energetic technique he learned from the Hemisync Gateway Series, which the phantasmal geometries actually seemed to react to, rushing from several different points in the space around the dude towards the energy shell the dude shaped around himself.

Besides all that, the dude says the experience felt a lot easier on his body overall this way. The bodyload was much less than he was used to from the dried caps eaten at the same dosages. The visual aspect was much more apparent this time as well. Sleep came easily, whereas with the dried caps sleep seemed to come on almost forcefully. Overall the effect profile seemed less drastic, yet somehow more profound. The dude said he'll probably have a few more stories about this the next time we run into each other...

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zubsza5th November 2009, 11:14 AM
I know the Siberians used to make a milk brandy...from raindeer milk generally if I am not mistaken. The milk brandy sounded pretty potent in its own right.

I read this in an old book that was written by a Hungarian anthropologist that went to Sibria to study there shamanistic traditions among the last few remaining practicing shamans in various regions. I figured that at some point the author would describe something about entheogens (particularly Amanita) used in their rituals among the accounts of the songs, clothing, drums, etc. but the only reference to an inhebriant they made any shamanistic connection to was "milk brandy." I wonder if there is any connection... "-Another Entheogen Forum Entheogen Discussion > The Mush Room > Seer's Milk

I myself have been interested in the "Divinatory Vino de Cebil/ Vilca Bufotenine Chicha Brew" at the same other forum... very similar; Bufotenine and Psilocin.  Cebil is probably more like the little ones than Amanita mushrooms are.

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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: flickedbic]
    #14879277 - 08/06/11 01:05 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

That would be awesome except the fact that I struggle with having just one glass of wine...I'd be frying hard after taking down a bottle


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: JaffyJaffar]
    #14879431 - 08/06/11 01:50 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus christ ! you have GOT TO make that wine. That could be the best thing you ever do. man that sounds so sweet. I love anything that is tinctured or extracted. Good luck man. Be sure to report back on that. Fuckin good idea ! I love wine. I love mush. Mush wine= WIN.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14882439 - 08/06/11 09:21 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

im fully intending on making the wine,

ive been making wine for the last year or 2 and the idea as i said was to make it with a honey mead wine..

having thought about it a bit more, i average out at about 30libs a dose.
so 30 libs per glass of wine, 5 glass's roughly to the bottle, 150 libs.

5 ltrs or so in the demijohn.. so roughly 600 libs.

weigh out 600 ground libs, use this weight for further wines.

ive read about people using methanol to extract psilocybin and psilocin, methanol and ethanol are both present in fermentation, so hopefully the psils with grab onto the alcohol molecules while its being produced by the yeast.

heres hoping i get a nice yield this year :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #14882472 - 08/06/11 09:28 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Make the yeast with Rye grains :datass:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14901399 - 08/10/11 03:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i dont want to make my own yeast, but yeah you can make it from rye if you want to make your own wild yeast.

unless your talking about rye with an added fungus?


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #14901478 - 08/10/11 03:42 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

I've been wanting to make mushroom beer forever. Mushroom beer and weed beer, in two separate batches, not mixed.

Mushroom wine is a great idea as well.

Personally I'd probably make the dose per bottle rather low, like half a gram, more of a party drink than a super intense concoction.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: drr]
    #14901693 - 08/10/11 04:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

i suppose i could make 2 diffrent batches..

ive also made weed and strawberry booze before. it was powerful.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: drr]
    #14902992 - 08/10/11 09:05 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

drr said:
I've been wanting to make mushroom beer forever. Mushroom beer and weed beer, in two separate batches, not mixed.

Mushroom wine is a great idea as well.

Personally I'd probably make the dose per bottle rather low, like half a gram, more of a party drink than a super intense concoction.




Man I brewed my first bud beer like two months ago. I dry (weed) hopped it. Aside from the groovy effects, it was honestly the best tasting beer I have ever made. I had some super dank bud though. Real stinky and flavorful. And I have about 12 or batches of beer under my belt and only ruined 1 or 2 batches. So out of the 10 good tasting ones I have succeeded at brewing.. the bud beer is still the best. Get on top of it bro.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14905308 - 08/11/11 10:28 AM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Be interested in the mushroom wine or mead

When I was a teen, made mead in my bedroom.... Wild honey

Have seen wine extractions listed.... But cool idea with the fermenting with mushrooms. Wonder if you made a black current -mushroom wine... Being black currents are a bit of a MAOI... Hmmmmm.... Or ginger mead...

Don't suppose you could use weight vice mushroom count? Get tons of cyans here, be willing to give it a try too.

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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: HarryL]
    #14911438 - 08/12/11 03:48 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

didnt know blackcurrant was an inhibitor. ill have to read up on that.

what ya mean about 'weight vice mushroom count'?


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #14911621 - 08/12/11 04:34 PM (10 years, 10 months ago)

Weight as in 'how many grams' vice count as in '100 mushrooms'

Only a consistency issue... I would probably figure about 12 -18 gm per 750 ml bottle for 4 glasses per bottle...  Would be using cyans...


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: HarryL]
    #15038815 - 09/06/11 06:12 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

the libs are starting to show around the south of ireland, looks liek its gunna be a good season, its been raining mad for the last week or 2 :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15090457 - 09/17/11 04:55 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

went out and about last night, only found a patch of 14.. im traveling half of the country tonight to where my friend picks, she says theres loads, also im going to start propagating my own, im sending away from some golden teacher from free spore ring :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15090705 - 09/17/11 08:30 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I made some wine then dropped 1/4 sac powdered into it. Let it sit for a few days then separated.

POured some honey into the wine and it restarted the fermentation bubbling and what not.

Let that go for about a month......  i drank and it was still active.

Conclusion: The active compounds were not damaged by fermentation.

I would be interested to see if you could put the shroom juice in at the beginning without damage.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #15102004 - 09/19/11 06:38 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

well, i travelled about 150km and came back with 400 odd libs, i think that will be enough, woks out at about 20 a glass..

@preschooler, was it a 1/4 gram or what?

'I would be interested to see if you could put the shroom juice in at the beginning without damage' - theres only one way to find out :laugh:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15131124 - 09/25/11 10:56 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

ok, ive collected 500 in total, ground them up in a food processor, today im going to get milton to sterilize the fermentation container and start the wine. ive been taking pictures as i go so ill post everything when im finished :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15131176 - 09/25/11 11:11 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Cyans in absinthe i call this sillysinthe :awesomenod:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15131309 - 09/25/11 11:50 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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well, i travelled about 150km and came back with 400 odd libs, i think that will be enough, woks out at about 20 a glass..

@preschooler, was it a 1/4 gram or what?

'I would be interested to see if you could put the shroom juice in at the beginning without damage' - theres only one way to find out :laugh:





1/4 ounce....(didn't drink all at one)..... really enjoyed it.

I would try with beer next time.... beer only takes around 30-60 days to full drinkability.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: m-d-m-a]
    #15135235 - 09/26/11 03:22 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

m-d-m-a said:
Cyans in absinthe i call this sillysinthe :awesomenod:




let me know how that goes!
didnt make it to the shops yesterday, so today i get the essentials to continue the brew :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Tomandjerry58]
    #15135240 - 09/26/11 03:24 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

preschooler said:
Quote:

Kastro said:
well, i travelled about 150km and came back with 400 odd libs, i think that will be enough, woks out at about 20 a glass..

@preschooler, was it a 1/4 gram or what?

'I would be interested to see if you could put the shroom juice in at the beginning without damage' - theres only one way to find out :laugh:





1/4 ounce....(didn't drink all at one)..... really enjoyed it.

I would try with beer next time.... beer only takes around 30-60 days to full drinkability.




im going to make a cider as well if i pick enough tonight, for now its gunna be honey mead wine aged for at least 6months until festy season.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #15135257 - 09/26/11 03:34 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

This sounds really cool, Kastro. You might wanna make your own log/tek thread though. I'll be following this.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: pickeroo]
    #15135745 - 09/26/11 09:33 AM (10 years, 8 months ago)

i will do when i get it all together.. i just have to get some bottled water and ill start, should be a Log/Tek up in a few hours :smile:


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #16294227 - 05/28/12 10:32 AM (10 years, 30 days ago)

i found one but i think some of the information is outdated.

http://www.shroomery.org/11113/Dionysian-Wine


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Kastro]
    #16300107 - 05/29/12 11:31 AM (10 years, 29 days ago)

Good luck man. Ive been making wine for a few years now too. Ive never made mead, mostly fruit wines. Ive always thought the way I would do it is add whole dried mushrooms into the secondary and just filter it out when I rack it. Be sure to post results.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MushR]
    #16505506 - 07/09/12 08:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Ive still got half of it left.. its getting better with age!
still tastes a bit dank though.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: MadcapMagician]
    #26924539 - 09/08/20 01:31 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

One way I have always wanted to try but have not found my self in the right situation yet would be to extract the psilocybin into really clear runny honey and then use the honey to make mead! It would be a long process but definitely interesting!


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Jackbriar778899]
    #26925472 - 09/09/20 01:07 AM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Powder it with a coffee grinder. Add to your vodka. Add to lemonade. Add to anything pretty much. Maybe make the wine or beer, and then add the doses at the end.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: the spiral]
    #27384741 - 07/12/21 07:17 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

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add mushrooms to wine you buy at the store, shake it up, let it sit maybe a week, then enjoy.  you can filter out the shrooms if you want or you can leave them in.

 




This seems like good advice because it seems to be the simplest
and easiest route to magic mushroom wine.

If I was doing this, I might add a step of putting the dried magic mushrooms into a coffee grinder before adding them to the wine/beer/spirit to maximise the psilocybin extraction.

The Wikipedia page on psilocybin tells us that psilocybin is soluble in water but only partially soluble in ethanol.  Wine, beer and spirits are predominately water. 40% proof vodka is only really 20% alcohol.  So there is no reason why you couldn't use this approach to make psilocybin cider, psilocybin beer, or psilocybin tequila/vodka/schnapps/whiskey/etc etc ... or even psilocybin tea/coffee.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Cilla_Sihbin]
    #27384913 - 07/12/21 09:07 PM (11 months, 7 days ago)

Anything can be fermented with the right bacteria. Granted it's not poisone. I've seen some nice extraction with fermented stuff on here, but mushrooms don't have enough sugar to be used for making alcohol so anything you make with them will technically be an extraction. But if you get the right bacteria, you could probably ferment the protein in them. But that's just a way to preserve them, not make wine.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: Cilla_Sihbin]
    #27385356 - 07/13/21 06:13 AM (11 months, 6 days ago)

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Cilla_Sihbin said:40% proof vodka is only really 20% alcohol.



To correct some confusion, "proof" means "percent alcohol * 2". Vodka is traditionally 80 proof, in other words 40%. I've never ABV lower than 35%. With less alcohol than that, it couldn't even be called vodka in in most places.


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Re: Magic Mushroom Wine [Re: gone-pear-shaped]
    #27386584 - 07/13/21 11:17 PM (11 months, 5 days ago)

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Cilla_Sihbin said:40% proof vodka is only really 20% alcohol.



To correct some confusion, "proof" means "percent alcohol * 2". Vodka is traditionally 80 proof, in other words 40%. I've never ABV lower than 35%. With less alcohol than that, it couldn't even be called vodka in in most places.




Yes, that's right:
Alcohol labelled as either ABV or 'vol'... is alcohol by volume
eg:  40% vol, or 40% ABV,      means "Alcohol By Volume"
40% vol/ABV alcohol, is the same as 80% proof alcohol.

And it's true, I misunderstood the meaning of the 40% written on the side of the vodka bottle as meaning proof alcohol, not ABV.

What can I do to reduce the chances of me making such silly mistakes
in the future?  Do you think I might benefit from a Golden Teacher ?

love and kisses

Cilla :-)  x x x


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