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OfflineNekphar
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Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens
    #14963259 - 08/22/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Habitat:
in the woods not far from the trail around dead leaves

Gills:
white gills

Stem:
white, long, thick, fuzzy appearance especially around bulbus foot

Cap:
yellow, white spots, concave, dark at center fading to lighter yellow



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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: Nekphar]
    #14963349 - 08/22/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The pictures are so small that I can't see any details of the volva, the structure at the base of the stem. Do you have larger versions of the photos?


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: ToxicMan]
    #14963505 - 08/22/11 11:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)





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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: Nekphar]
    #14963531 - 08/22/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I find that A. Muscaria will have two-three concentric rings around the volva ( the big bulge at base of the stem) but I'm not sure if this is true in all variations. Looks a bit yellow for guessowii, maybe muscaria var formosa:shrug: I'm not too good with Amanitas, especially the ones from the east coast.


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: Nekphar]
    #14963534 - 08/22/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Can you get a better photo of the base of the stem? It's tough to tell from that picture what is going on down there.

Usually the stem is shaggier on guessowii specimens, but that is still an option.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure formosa is European and guessowii is American.


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The bulb is the bulb.

The volva is the volva.

They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: suchen]
    #14963555 - 08/22/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: suchen]
    #14963622 - 08/22/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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suchen said:
Can you get a better photo of the base of the stem? It's tough to tell from that picture what is going on down there.

Usually the stem is shaggier on guessowii specimens, but that is still an option.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure formosa is European and guessowii is American.




Never knew that about the stems. Isn't the Var. formosa just the color of the cap being yellow instead of red?  I get confused with the muscaria  because of the separation of American and Eurasian species. I never understood why they are separated, unless it's genetics are different. I use this kinda as a quick key sometimes.  http://www.shroomery.org/10224/Hunting-Fly-Agarics-in-North-America


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: NeoSporen]
    #14963690 - 08/23/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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bfogg8706 said:

Never knew that about the stems.




That is only from ones that I have seen, and that is only in photos.

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bfogg8706 said:
Isn't the Var. formosa just the color of the cap being yellow instead of red?




Again I'm not sure. I am much more familiar with flavoconia, flavorubescens, and frostiana being from the northeast U.S. I should just stop posting in this thread, haha.


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The bulb is the bulb.

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They have a very long term realtionship, but they’re “just friends.”


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: suchen]
    #14970067 - 08/24/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Any verdict from a TI? please....


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: Nekphar]
    #14970610 - 08/24/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

These appear to be Amanita muscaria var. guessowii

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suchen said:
EDIT: I'm pretty sure formosa is European and guessowii is American.


That's my understanding


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: TimmiT]
    #14971269 - 08/24/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its beauties like that that make me wish you could buy a big bouquet of cut mushrooms instead of flowers!


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: mycoscopy]
    #14971371 - 08/24/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

was going to make a new thread, but figured this should be easier.

just found some similar shrooms, any ideas?







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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: TimmiT]
    #14971389 - 08/24/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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TimmiT said:
These appear to be Amanita muscaria var. guessowii

:thanx:

here's a couple more I found in the same patch if that can help solidify the ID


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Re: Aminita ID request think itsAmanita muscaria var. guessowii but could be Amanita flavorubescens [Re: obavijest]
    #14971680 - 08/24/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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obavijest said:
was going to make a new thread, but figured this should be easier.

just found some similar shrooms, any ideas?










Make a new thread, it will be easier. Also add a good description and pictures of the base of the mushroom.


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