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EMERGENCY backpacking 1
#14957497 - 08/21/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Say your local community gets hit next week by a major natural disaster, and you knew this so u decided to pack a emergencybackpack to get you and your family ready for the survival....
What would you put into it?
Heres some of the things i would gather with me...
Knife & Multitool (If u have firearm thats a plus too ) Map and compass Flint or fire starter kit Fishhooks & line Metal cup or metal can Water sterilizers Emergency blankets (one for each family member) First Aid Kit with medical gloves Basic first aid guide Duct tape Sewingkit Rope Flashlights with Batterys Canned foods & Snacks Dry and warm shift of clothes, a wool underlayer, fleese as middle layer and a rainproof upper layer is the safest method to keep warm and dry if u live in a cold enviorment 
Safe travels everyone
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Add personal/valuable items. Paperwork, ID's, Deed to your house, jewelry, passport, credit cards, etc....
Ditch the canned foods and go with high calorie, high protein dried goods. Beans and rice FTW.
Maxi Pads. They are dual purpose. They do the job they are intended to do, but also make an awesome bandage. Pair it with your duct tape for a compression dressing.
Don't forget any personal meds.
Often overlooked items on a regualar backpacking trip: Sunscreen Hats warm/sun depending on season
Also didn't see water bottles on your list.
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Water sterilizers it's the same as water
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wildernessjunkie said: Also didn't see water bottles on your list.
Meaning, something to carry your water in.
I get excited about this subject too. Glad Im not the only one that thinks about this kinda thing.
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-magnifying glass can be used to quickly start a fire, even when wet. The downside is sun is needed
-mirror you can signal other people from afar
I'd also replace the flashlight with one of those combo ones which is a wind-up flashlight radio thing.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Green_T]
#14959460 - 08/22/11 02:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd also replace the flashlight with one of those combo ones which is a wind-up flashlight radio thing.

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You forgot to pack your weed and spore prints..
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Khrushchev]
#14959842 - 08/22/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't forget the Rizla's!
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wildernessjunkie said: Add personal/valuable items. Paperwork, ID's, Deed to your house, jewelry, passport, credit cards, etc....
Ditch the canned foods and go with high calorie, high protein dried goods. Beans and rice FTW.
Maxi Pads. They are dual purpose. They do the job they are intended to do, but also make an awesome bandage. Pair it with your duct tape for a compression dressing.
Don't forget any personal meds.
Often overlooked items on a regualar backpacking trip: Sunscreen Hats warm/sun depending on season
Also didn't see water bottles on your list.
Nice add on, by something to carry water in i put metal can, could be used both for cooking and drinking, though you got a point, bottles would be most beneficial...
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wildernessjunkie said: Also didn't see water bottles on your list.
Meaning, something to carry your water in.
I get excited about this subject too. Glad Im not the only one that thinks about this kinda thing.
Its impossible not to think about this, seing clearly whats going on across the globe these days... When it hit, it hits you HARD AND FAST, preparedness is a must!
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Khrushchev]
#14960259 - 08/22/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Khrushchev said: You forgot to pack your weed and spore prints..
Hahahaha damn thats right, ill pack my bowl rather then rizlas though, they will probably get wet, plus bowls are alot faster.. haha
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Green_T]
#14960264 - 08/22/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Green_T said: -magnifying glass can be used to quickly start a fire, even when wet. The downside is sun is needed
-mirror you can signal other people from afar
I'd also replace the flashlight with one of those combo ones which is a wind-up flashlight radio thing.
I got a waterproof flintstone firemaker, its pretty awesome... Great add on though!!
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> Flashlights with Batterys
I'd ditch both of these. Batteries are heavy and can cause a huge mess if/when they leak. I would add in a handful of glow sticks instead. They are light, have a long shelf life, and can be dual purposed as markers if needed.
A few more things...
Mole skin Safety scissors Small sharpening stone Spoon (don't need a fork, already have a knife) Extra socks Gloves Sleeping bag Ground cloth / tarp String Light rope Containers for water Small sponge Small tent
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Seuss]
#14960286 - 08/22/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > Flashlights with Batterys
I'd ditch both of these. Batteries are heavy and can cause a huge mess if/when they leak. I would add in a handful of glow sticks instead. They are light, have a long shelf life, and can be dual purposed as markers if needed.
A few more things...
Mole skin Safety scissors Small sharpening stone Spoon (don't need a fork, already have a knife) Extra socks Gloves Sleeping bag Ground cloth / tarp String Light rope Containers for water Small sponge Small tent
Nice one might also wanna bring your toothbrush, a little soap and some toothpaste in a ziplock bag. (Personal hygiene is great ) Might wanna bring a couple extra of those bags aswell...
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Seuss]
#14960322 - 08/22/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have an emergency kit next to my computer, let's face it that's where I'm more likely going to be when shit goes down, containing
rain poncho utility rope gas mask hand crank flashlight hunting knife matches (won't last but good to have in a pinch) heavy coat 12 gauge plus assorted ammo
what I am missing water filter (making one) sleeping bag portable crank powered radio
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Oh yeah, not really part of a backpack, but a bicycle is the most handy vehicle to have in case of an emergency. If there is traffic and/or broken roads, the bicycle can get around them. You can also cover quite a distance on a bicycle.
If you use a bicycle, a multi-tool, puncture repair kit, and pump will all be needed. However, these can be kept with the bicycle.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Green_T]
#14960416 - 08/22/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input everyone..! Sitting here with my notebook scribbling down all your ideas, realising my emergencybackpack needs an update.. lol
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well ...hate to break your bubble. Your first problem will be dodging military helicopters, as well as an armada of other military technology which will intercept you and keep your ass contained in a FEMA concentration camp.
If you are caught outside the FEMA camp without proper papers or authorization you probably would be shot and killed on the spot.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it. While in hiding, I guess most of that stuff in your nap sack, you could all ways shove up your ass, because it wont be much use to you when you are dead.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14963114 - 08/22/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14963817 - 08/23/11 12:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sloantbone said: well ...hate to break your bubble. Your first problem will be dodging military helicopters, as well as an armada of other military technology which will intercept you and keep your ass contained in a FEMA concentration camp.
If you are caught outside the FEMA camp without proper papers or authorization you probably would be shot and killed on the spot.
So put that in your pipe and smoke it. While in hiding, I guess most of that stuff in your nap sack, you could all ways shove up your ass, because it wont be much use to you when you are dead.
FEMA camp Locations in the USA.


Your positive attitude is truly inspirational  Already well aware of the FEMA camps, thanks for the heads up though... IMO, Looking at all the signs of shit going down in our universe these days, i believe theres bigger issues facing us long before FEMA and/or martial law will step in..
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Do believe they have equipment that detects the locations of individuals in houses based on the electrical signals produced when the heart beats.
i.e. they can snipe you through a wall without ever seeing where you're at, unaided by technology.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Tri High]
#14967029 - 08/23/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Surprised noonne mentioned road flares, FF brought this up elsewhere as a must for a survival kit, as they will start a fire in almost any environment
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: c1dh3d]
#14967361 - 08/23/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How did this thread go from an emergency backpacking trip, due to natural disaster. To hiding from the government while they hunt you down and try to suppress you?
Its just an "Oh Shit Kit", that would allow you go grab and go if something bad happened.
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wildernessjunkie said: How did this thread go from an emergency backpacking trip, due to natural disaster. To hiding from the government while they hunt you down and try to suppress you?
Its just an "Oh Shit Kit", that would allow you go grab and go if something bad happened.
Well history shows like with Hurricane Katrina of the 2005, Gestapo tactics were being employed by FEMA in that local area. Assuming a similar or larger problem of a natural disaster was to occur, it would be reasonable to assume that the entire population of that region would be locked down and under "martial law".
They have build thousands of FEMA concentration camps all over the United States. One would have to be naive if they were to assume that they would not use the camps and fill them.
However if in doubt....wait a couple of years from now.
You probably will ask yourself when you are sitting in one of the FEMA camps, how you could have been so fucking stupid to see these FEMA concentration camps popping up all over your damn country, without wondering who they were for.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14969461 - 08/24/11 04:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmmm....need to research that. Sources please?
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> However if in doubt....wait a couple of years from now.
The conspiracy yoyos have been saying "FEMA camps... wait a couple of years and you will see" over the last decade that I have been an admin here. So how many more years am I supposed to wait, exactly? Another ten? Twenty? Oh, and I am still waiting for Bush to declare marshal law and take over the country, turning himself into a king. When is that going to happen, again? I'm also still waiting for Planet X to show up. I'm also still waiting for the lizard people to rise up. I'm also still waiting for the alien invasion to occur. I'm also still waiting for... 
The conspiracy yoyo forum is a few doors down on the left. This is the Security and Safety forum. Lets please try to keep this discussion on the original topic and leave the FEMA conspiracy BS somewhere else. Yes, I know, I am a government stooge and in a few years I will be sorry for ignoring your warnings. Probably all the fluoride in the water.
> Surprised noonne mentioned road flares
My only gripe against road flares is their weight and limited re-usability. This is the same reason why I don't bother with things that take batteries. I want as light of a pack as I can manage with as much stuff in it that will be reused or dual purposed as possible. My current survival pack weighs just 28 pounds, including tent, sleeping bag, week of dehydrated food, and two liters of water along with all my other stuff. The tent, sleeping bag, and food make up the majority of the weight. If I build a shelter, ditch the comfort of a sleeping bag, and hunt my own food (iffy proposition, I hate eating bugs ... the only part of survival training I disliked), then I could easily halve the weight I am carrying.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Seuss]
#14969581 - 08/24/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Agreed on the road flares.
Agreed on the bugs, shits nasty. Though Ants and fried grasshoppers ain't so bad.
My pack currently holds steady at about 30-35 lbs. That includes a week of food, and 3 quarts of water. Add a .22 and 100 rounds, and I'm set long term.
Also it's pretty amazing how much food can be snared with a single spool of thin wire.
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Seuss said: I'm also still waiting for... 
You wont have to wait much longer.
History tends to repeat itself.
However....all is well....go back...smoke a joint....eat some mushrooms....have a few beers....watch the ball game.
Best thing to put in a survival backpack is Water Purification Tablets. At least if you have those, you can drink most ground water that you find without getting sick.
Having a book containing knowledge of wild eatable weeds and plants can help too.
However like I said before, you would probably have a difficult time trying to travel anywhere due to the "State" shutting down any liberal movement of citizens.
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No source required. Just go review what happens in most war or large scale disasters around the world with civilian populations and then apply your common sense.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14969671 - 08/24/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Best thing to put in a survival backpack is Water Purification Tablets"
Disagree. The best thing you can put in any pack, is less shit. If you want to add something, add knowledge. The more you know, the less you need.
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Sunlight kills pathogens. So maybe a shallow tupperware thing to put water in and leave in the sun to clean up. Like a cookie sheet or something. Can't be too deep or sunlight gets thwarted.
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> Sunlight kills pathogens.
Bzzt. If you believe that, I will leave you to your diarrhea.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Seuss]
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UV light kills pathogens.
And that is one spectrum the sun emits.
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Tri High said: UV light kills pathogens.
And that is one spectrum the sun emits.
Thanks. Come again.
How come puddles/ponds/lakes aren't sanitized by laying in the sun all day? Of the radiation that hits the earth most of it is longwave UV, UV water purifiers utilize the shortwave UV. I may be wrong.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: snoot]
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^See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_water_disinfection
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Solar water disinfection, also known as SODIS[1] is a method of disinfecting water using only sunlight and plastic PET bottles. SODIS is a free and effective method for decentralized water treatment, usually applied at the household level and is recommended by the World Health Organization as a viable method for household water treatment and safe storage.[2] SODIS is already applied in numerous developing countries. Educational pamphlets on the method are available in many languages,[3] each equivalent to the English language version.[4]
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wildernessjunkie said: How did this thread go from an emergency backpacking trip, due to natural disaster. To hiding from the government while they hunt you down and try to suppress you?
Its just an "Oh Shit Kit", that would allow you go grab and go if something bad happened.
"Oh shit kit"
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Solar water disinfection, also known as SODIS[1] is a method of disinfecting water using only sunlight and plastic PET bottles. SODIS is a free and effective method for decentralized water treatment, usually applied at the household level and is recommended by the World Health Organization as a viable method for household water treatment and safe storage.[2] SODIS is already applied in numerous developing countries. Educational pamphlets on the method are available in many languages,[3] each equivalent to the English language version.[4]

Ponds and lakes are too deep for the light waves to effectively penetrate. And then factor in light making plants and algae grow, which feed the fish, which poop out new organisms and die themselves, then contribute to many things.
Stratification.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Tri High]
#14975045 - 08/25/11 06:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Tri High said: UV light kills pathogens.
And that is one spectrum the sun emits.
Thanks. Come again.
Ok, I guess if I am near the equator, during summer, and I'm not worried about amoeba's or chemical contamination, then SODIS is better than nothing. Unfortunately, if I am not in the tropics, (takes longer and is less effective from 15 to 30 latitude, and is ineffective above 35 latitude) SODIS isn't going to help much. It also doesn't work as well in the winter, which gets worse the farther you get from the equator. It doesn't work with turbid (cloudy) water, and requires the plastic container to be clear, unscratched, and made from PET (most water bottles). It also takes six hours in direct sunlight in the best conditions and two days or more if you are not in the tropics, it is winter, there is a lot of cloud cover, etc.
Again, I'll leave you to your diarrhea and I will stick to micro-filters, iodine, and boiling my water...
(One last thought... the studies I've read all stress that the procedure (though simple) must be followed correctly to get the laboratory results. Slight deviations render the process ineffective. Be careful extrapolating the results of properly performed SODIS in ideal conditions to untried, untested techniques such as creating a small puddle of water in a cookie sheet at various times of the year in various locations.)
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I have an emergency kit next to my computer, let's face it that's where I'm more likely going to be when shit goes down, containing
Sad but true.
I think this may have already been up top, but I saw flint, magnifying glass, and glowsticks for fire, light...how about a ten-pack of disposable lighters, (sturdiest possible)? By the time those ran out, other items would have already presented issues of being exhausted.
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Seuss said: I'm also still waiting for... 
You wont have to wait much longer.
History tends to repeat itself.
However....all is well....go back...smoke a joint....eat some mushrooms....have a few beers....watch the ball game.
Best thing to put in a survival backpack is Water Purification Tablets. At least if you have those, you can drink most ground water that you find without getting sick.
Having a book containing knowledge of wild eatable weeds and plants can help too.
However like I said before, you would probably have a difficult time trying to travel anywhere due to the "State" shutting down any liberal movement of citizens.
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wildernessjunkie said: Hmmmm....need to research that. Sources please?
No source required. Just go review what happens in most war or large scale disasters around the world with civilian populations and then apply your common sense.
Copout answer, and useless toward discussion...
...yet...sources is a good point. Might be wise to keep a naturalist almanac, anything of light print that may be useful for identifying and utilizing any plants, animals, mushrooms, cacti, ect., that may be necessary for sustenance. Also, maybe anything really thin printed that can be read, surely even trying to avoid circumstances such as an apocalypse demands at least a little downtime, and can be spared a few square inches/ounces...shit, maybe even Revelations would make sense, that was only supposedly now, and still hasn't happened.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: numonkei]
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numonkei said: Copout answer, and useless toward discussion... ~Monk
Ok I thought I would come back and amuse myself by divulging more into this topic.
Lets start with the basics.
If we are talking about a local flood, power outage, or your sewer has backed up, than an emergency backpack would do very well.
If on the other hand we are talking of a large scale natural disaster such as a major earthquake, huge senami or nuclear attack of some sort than there that presents a whole new ballgame of rules.
In any major emergency the military establishes some decree of law enforcement as a state of emergency is called in.
The first problem that they often have to deal with is looting and civil disobedience.
The reason for this, is that the have-not part of the population will take away from the ones that have. IN other words, what ever possessions/ provisions you in all probability may be carrying in your nap sack will be forcefully stolen from you. Even if the have to beat out your brains to pry it out of your hands.
In order to deal with this civil unrest the military would in all likeliness move whatever displaced civilian populations and move them to a more secure area. This of course would be under armed personal and you would not have an option of telling them you were going to go visit your aunt Pauline in Apple-Jack Buttfuck Idaho.
This secure area would in all likelihood be a FEMA camp. The guards would probably take away your knapsack if they felt it might contain something that they found offensive. Going by the theory of course you still were in possession of it as well as your teeth.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
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This is why i said having a firearm is a plus... Wont be too easy to forcefully take them away...
As far as it comes to fema, ill hide in the woods or walk my ass down to mexico or something...?
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Rebel_At_War said: This is why i said having a firearm is a plus... Wont be too easy to forcefully take them away...
As far as it comes to fema, ill hide in the woods or walk my ass down to mexico or something...?
Chances are you wont make it too far. The police or military would take away your gun as soon as you were spotted. With the technology of the military you would have no place to hide. They have those wonderful remote controlled drone planes that are capable of killing you from many many miles away.
You best course of action is to learn how to hang yourself.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
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lol... ok.. thanks for the input
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I always keep one of those credit card type magnifying glasses in my wallet at all times. Though when I go out on a longer trip, I've got one of theseFerrocerium Rods . Ive had it for years, and the thing has never failed me. I will say though that I rarely use it, its always more fun to bowdrill or hand drill a fire. And if you are with other people you get to Wow them with your mad fire making skillz. And that adds to the fun of the group as a whole.
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wildernessjunkie said: I always keep one of those credit card type magnifying glasses in my wallet at all times. Though when I go out on a longer trip, I've got one of theseFerrocerium Rods . Ive had it for years, and the thing has never failed me. I will say though that I rarely use it, its always more fun to bowdrill or hand drill a fire. And if you are with other people you get to Wow them with your mad fire making skillz. And that adds to the fun of the group as a whole.
That sounds awesome, i wish i had one!!
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About SHTF packs, is there anything extra i should add to mine ?
- Medium sized trauma kit - 2 box's of un lubricated condoms - 2 box's of water sterilizing tablets - 2 pairs of socks / underwear - 7 packs of instant noodles - 500g of beef jerky - 500 rounds of .22 - 22 bolt action rifle - deck of cards - roll up foam Matt - space blanket - 10 pack of 4 hour glow-stick's - Small saucepan for sterilization / cooking - Spanish bayonet - Map / compass - Magnesium fire starter - 15 meters of rope - water canteen
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One of those radio/solar/phone charging/weather radio crank things. they are fairly light, and can run off of solar power, and they can charge your cell phone if the system is still up.
Also you have to think about carrying a weapon. If you have supplies, and other people don't, you are a target. If i was a dad, and my kids, and wife were crying because of hunger pangs there isn't much i wouldn't do to try and feed them. Of course i would ask nicely the first time, but what would you do to feed your family? You also want tot think about having a small caliber rifle. A .22 or something with a sound suppressor. What good does carrying around a weapon do you to hunt food if when you fire it people from 2 miles around you can hear it also. Just thinking off the top of my head.
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A suppressor isn't an easy thing for most people to acquire though.
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If i had the room i would take more socks, and underwear. The beef jerkey is a good idea. I would also think about taking along some of those nasty tasting high calorie bars. Or some MREs. Also when you get a pair of hiking boots, take the shoe laces out of them, and use 550 Para Cord. The stuff is almost unbreakable, and if need be can be used to tie down things etc.
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Anonymous said: A suppressor isn't an easy thing for most people to acquire though.
Any semi auto .22 LR can easily be silenced with a 20 oz plastic bottle. It doesn't usually work if its a bolt action though.
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If SHTF, then consider the rule of law void. In that case, there are many tutorials out there that teach you how to create a suppressor for a .22; depending on the legality of such a thing in your state you may be able to obtain a threaded barrel, and by ensuring you have the right tools and materials, you can create a suppressor. ( AFAIK, having all these materials and tools are entirely legal, so long as they don't appear to be intended for a suppressor.)
that said, don't attempt to manufacture a suppressor without the right paperwork.
Edited by Haffenreffer (01/16/13 08:33 PM)
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