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numonkei
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14976930 - 08/25/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seuss said: I'm also still waiting for... 
You wont have to wait much longer.
History tends to repeat itself.
However....all is well....go back...smoke a joint....eat some mushrooms....have a few beers....watch the ball game.
Best thing to put in a survival backpack is Water Purification Tablets. At least if you have those, you can drink most ground water that you find without getting sick.
Having a book containing knowledge of wild eatable weeds and plants can help too.
However like I said before, you would probably have a difficult time trying to travel anywhere due to the "State" shutting down any liberal movement of citizens.
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wildernessjunkie said: Hmmmm....need to research that. Sources please?
No source required. Just go review what happens in most war or large scale disasters around the world with civilian populations and then apply your common sense.
Copout answer, and useless toward discussion...
...yet...sources is a good point. Might be wise to keep a naturalist almanac, anything of light print that may be useful for identifying and utilizing any plants, animals, mushrooms, cacti, ect., that may be necessary for sustenance. Also, maybe anything really thin printed that can be read, surely even trying to avoid circumstances such as an apocalypse demands at least a little downtime, and can be spared a few square inches/ounces...shit, maybe even Revelations would make sense, that was only supposedly now, and still hasn't happened.
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Vitalux
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: numonkei]
#14977094 - 08/25/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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numonkei said: Copout answer, and useless toward discussion... ~Monk
Ok I thought I would come back and amuse myself by divulging more into this topic.
Lets start with the basics.
If we are talking about a local flood, power outage, or your sewer has backed up, than an emergency backpack would do very well.
If on the other hand we are talking of a large scale natural disaster such as a major earthquake, huge senami or nuclear attack of some sort than there that presents a whole new ballgame of rules.
In any major emergency the military establishes some decree of law enforcement as a state of emergency is called in.
The first problem that they often have to deal with is looting and civil disobedience.
The reason for this, is that the have-not part of the population will take away from the ones that have. IN other words, what ever possessions/ provisions you in all probability may be carrying in your nap sack will be forcefully stolen from you. Even if the have to beat out your brains to pry it out of your hands.
In order to deal with this civil unrest the military would in all likeliness move whatever displaced civilian populations and move them to a more secure area. This of course would be under armed personal and you would not have an option of telling them you were going to go visit your aunt Pauline in Apple-Jack Buttfuck Idaho.
This secure area would in all likelihood be a FEMA camp. The guards would probably take away your knapsack if they felt it might contain something that they found offensive. Going by the theory of course you still were in possession of it as well as your teeth.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14977107 - 08/25/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is why i said having a firearm is a plus... Wont be too easy to forcefully take them away...
As far as it comes to fema, ill hide in the woods or walk my ass down to mexico or something...?
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Rebel_At_War said: This is why i said having a firearm is a plus... Wont be too easy to forcefully take them away...
As far as it comes to fema, ill hide in the woods or walk my ass down to mexico or something...?
Chances are you wont make it too far. The police or military would take away your gun as soon as you were spotted. With the technology of the military you would have no place to hide. They have those wonderful remote controlled drone planes that are capable of killing you from many many miles away.
You best course of action is to learn how to hang yourself.
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Re: EMERGENCY backpacking [Re: Vitalux]
#14977283 - 08/25/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol... ok.. thanks for the input
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I always keep one of those credit card type magnifying glasses in my wallet at all times. Though when I go out on a longer trip, I've got one of theseFerrocerium Rods . Ive had it for years, and the thing has never failed me. I will say though that I rarely use it, its always more fun to bowdrill or hand drill a fire. And if you are with other people you get to Wow them with your mad fire making skillz. And that adds to the fun of the group as a whole.
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wildernessjunkie said: I always keep one of those credit card type magnifying glasses in my wallet at all times. Though when I go out on a longer trip, I've got one of theseFerrocerium Rods . Ive had it for years, and the thing has never failed me. I will say though that I rarely use it, its always more fun to bowdrill or hand drill a fire. And if you are with other people you get to Wow them with your mad fire making skillz. And that adds to the fun of the group as a whole.
That sounds awesome, i wish i had one!!
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About SHTF packs, is there anything extra i should add to mine ?
- Medium sized trauma kit - 2 box's of un lubricated condoms - 2 box's of water sterilizing tablets - 2 pairs of socks / underwear - 7 packs of instant noodles - 500g of beef jerky - 500 rounds of .22 - 22 bolt action rifle - deck of cards - roll up foam Matt - space blanket - 10 pack of 4 hour glow-stick's - Small saucepan for sterilization / cooking - Spanish bayonet - Map / compass - Magnesium fire starter - 15 meters of rope - water canteen
Edited by PanzerCubed (01/05/13 07:20 AM)
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One of those radio/solar/phone charging/weather radio crank things. they are fairly light, and can run off of solar power, and they can charge your cell phone if the system is still up.
Also you have to think about carrying a weapon. If you have supplies, and other people don't, you are a target. If i was a dad, and my kids, and wife were crying because of hunger pangs there isn't much i wouldn't do to try and feed them. Of course i would ask nicely the first time, but what would you do to feed your family? You also want tot think about having a small caliber rifle. A .22 or something with a sound suppressor. What good does carrying around a weapon do you to hunt food if when you fire it people from 2 miles around you can hear it also. Just thinking off the top of my head.
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A suppressor isn't an easy thing for most people to acquire though.
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If i had the room i would take more socks, and underwear. The beef jerkey is a good idea. I would also think about taking along some of those nasty tasting high calorie bars. Or some MREs. Also when you get a pair of hiking boots, take the shoe laces out of them, and use 550 Para Cord. The stuff is almost unbreakable, and if need be can be used to tie down things etc.
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Anonymous said: A suppressor isn't an easy thing for most people to acquire though.
Any semi auto .22 LR can easily be silenced with a 20 oz plastic bottle. It doesn't usually work if its a bolt action though.
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If SHTF, then consider the rule of law void. In that case, there are many tutorials out there that teach you how to create a suppressor for a .22; depending on the legality of such a thing in your state you may be able to obtain a threaded barrel, and by ensuring you have the right tools and materials, you can create a suppressor. ( AFAIK, having all these materials and tools are entirely legal, so long as they don't appear to be intended for a suppressor.)
that said, don't attempt to manufacture a suppressor without the right paperwork.
Edited by Haffenreffer (01/16/13 08:33 PM)
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