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Re: Does the ego even exist [Re: Icelander]
    #14952243 - 08/20/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

lol who knows :shrug:

according to buddhism it's self-existing empty cognition


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Re: Does the ego even exist [Re: lolwut]
    #14952412 - 08/20/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I tuned out at the part where the ego doesn't exist.

Well sure "it" exists.  When one allows one's pride jealousy lust betrayal and misplaced love coupled with OCD that would appear pretty egotistical of me. 

Interesting how the pieces all fit together on that situation yesterday and my ego finally in check as well.  Funny how I basically had it called correctly from the beginning.  My wounded pride drove me to the fall.  It preceded it yet never became healed particularly after getting all scraped up.

But instead of picking myself up and throwing another jab I just laid there a while.  Licking wounds doesn't work put some salt in them and feel the burn.  The ego loves licking.  It hates salt...




Interesting post, not sure how its relevant though :shrug: Also don't know why you would "put salt in your own wounds".




Perhaps it's relevant because to me the notion that the ego doesn't exist is laughable.  So my ego tunes out when it reads that sort of thing.  Maybe I misread your thread title or something.

Hmmm why would you want to actually heal your own wounds as opposed to letting them fester?  You got me there.




Judging by the way you're using the term ego, perhaps we're using different definitions of the word, I wouldn't neccessarily talk about it in 3rd person since the ego is "me" (I am), and the ego as a mental concept is just another concept that can't be found.

By putting salt in your wounds and feeling the burn, purely because it hurts, you seem to be in a negative self-destructive cycle which is what seems to be removed once the idea of ego as a solid foundation is transcended...heal yourself so you feel good, don't hurt yourself due to having mental concepts which state another different mental concept wouldn't enjoy it.




Salt cures the wound.  Of course you probably use Newagesporin triple can't handle pain anti-biotic like I do.  Wimpy excuse but seems to work.  My mother gave us two choices.  Mercurchrome (mercury!) or Merthiolate (burned like hell).  The whiners were given mercurchrome the tough kids insisted on the merthiolate it actually worked better.  Then when mom said "are you sure you can handle this?" and you looked up and said "sure" you were The Little Man.


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Re: Does the ego even exist [Re: Icelander]
    #14952643 - 08/20/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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...become for a short time inoperative or mostly so and fades into the background letting other facets of our being emerge to the forefront where we can "feel" them.




Then there is that other 'time' when the levee* breaks and its a fucking emergency and you quite possibly don't get the help you need.  And it just stays that way for a long time.


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Re: Does the ego even exist [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #14952751 - 08/20/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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...become for a short time inoperative or mostly so and fades into the background letting other facets of our being emerge to the forefront where we can "feel" them.




Then there is that other 'time' when the levy breaks and its a fucking emergency and you quite possibly don't get the help you need.  And it just stays that way for a long time.




When The Levee Breaks (alternate take)



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Re: Does the ego even exist [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14953755 - 08/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quite interesting to look for 'yourself' and see there's nothing there.

We spend 80% of our lives and 80% of our energy building up and defending this nothing.

We have to have almost everything except physics/chemistry etc. completely wrong imo.

We just instinctively communicate as a part of a whole or something. The brain learns to be a part and not the undifferentiated whole. Just like you learn to type and it becomes instinctive.

But then we ought not devote that energy to affirming there is nothing.

What exists is You but it is not yours.

The most practical thing we can do is find better states of mind to do what we're already doing in.

It's learning how to conjure/summon these states of mind that should be our task.

Hedonistic spirituality.

Some of these states are just fucking awesome... so clear, so expansive, and the ecstasy... oh the ecstasy...


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