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linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub
#14951991 - 08/20/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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now before you guys go deep into a tale about how I should use google, I've been using google extensively. I can't find the answer I'm looking for, fdisk seems to want to format a partition more then anything else, although fdisk -l seems to give good results for information.
here i my issue, when I try and dual boot, windows xp with ntfs isn't found. when I try and load it, I get this error: device format "/dev/sda, msdos1" invalid: must be (f|h)dn, with o <= n c 128
so in ubuntu it was recommended I try this from an online article:
sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /disk1
but this is the result I get:
Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
also, just to be clear, /dev/sdb1 is the ntfs windows partition, not /dev/sda
now in windows, setting this partition as active is as simple as using these tools:
diskpart list disk select disk list partition select partition active
why is this so complex in linux?? would it not be as simple? the weird thing is, windows was installed first, and then when I installed linux under dual boot, at first linux stopped showing up, when I marked this partition as active, it worked, but now I can only load into ubuntu, and not windows. so it's the opposite now 
would anyone like the results of fdisk -l? THANKS
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14952402 - 08/20/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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>using windows XP >2011
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imachavel said: would anyone like the results of fdisk -l? THANKS
It wouldn't hurt.
You're MBR is located on the first part of your first disk (/dev/sda).
What I like to do, is to create a boot partition as the first primary partition on the first disk.
Something like:
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Device Boot Id System /dev/sda1 * 83 Linux (bootloader partition) /dev/sda2 82 Swap /dev/sda3 83 Linux (root/filesystem partition)
Then you'd need to tell the grub config (/boot/grub/grub.conf) to boot from it, so it would be like:
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title Ubanto root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/<kernel name> root=/dev/sda3
The you'd add a windows XP entry to grub (/dev/sdb1 is called hd1,0 in grub): Code:
Title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1
And that should boot XP.
Edit: Disregard my pervious babble and just post your fdisk -l output and your grub.conf
Edited by Dawks (08/20/11 01:17 PM)
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14953227 - 08/20/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok give me a second and let me find that. that's a ton. using linux is like programming a computer. it is a beautiful operating system, but can be a real hassle.
ok I'll edit this post in a second and post fdisk -l and grub.conf, thank god there is someone here who has used linux a time or two. much appreciated.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14953277 - 08/20/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fdisk -l:
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xbcd9bcd9
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 28683 230396166 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 * 44619 60802 129989632 83 Linux Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x5b6ac646
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 1 30401 244196001 7 HPFS/NTFS
grub.conf:
danel@danel-Dimension-4700:~$ sudo grub.conf sudo: grub.conf: command not found
I didn't get much help on that last one huh? my mistake, the fdisk -l help you out any??
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14953749 - 08/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for that:
Okay, whenever pasting output into a post do in inside the [code][/code] tags. It makes it easier for me to distinguish between what you're writing to me and what's output 
I'm going to need to few more details before I can help:
1. What version of unbuntu are you using Find this out by typing lsb_release -a , paste the output
2. Find out what version of GRUB your using. It appears that modern versions of ubuntu are using that hellishly complex grub2 nonsense. Type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg and paste me the output.
3. We can see clearly from the output you pasted that /dev/sda2 is your Ubuntu partition and that dev /dev/sdb1 is your windows partition. But what data is on /dev/sda1?
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14954679 - 08/20/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok I don't want the tags to confuse you and give you the impression there is a bracket in the command. I'm sure you know the difference, but either way, how about I just put several space between the command and output, it should make it easier, thanks a lot btw. Ok here we go
[lsb_release -a] :
LSB Version: core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 11.04 Release: 11.04 Codename: natty
and then
[cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg] :
# # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE # # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub #
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ### if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then set have_grubenv=true load_env fi set default="0" if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}" save_env saved_entry set prev_saved_entry= save_env prev_saved_entry set boot_once=true fi
function savedefault { if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then saved_entry="${chosen}" save_env saved_entry fi }
function recordfail { set recordfail=1 if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi }
function load_video { insmod vbe insmod vga insmod video_bochs insmod video_cirrus }
insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then set gfxmode=auto load_video insmod gfxterm fi terminal_output gfxterm insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale set lang=en_US insmod gettext if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then set timeout=-1 else set timeout=22 fi ### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ### set menu_color_normal=white/black set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray if background_color 44,0,30; then clear fi ### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober ### menuentry "Microsoft Windows XP Professional (on /dev/sda1)" --class windows --class os { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs set root='(/dev/sda,msdos1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root EC94CADB94CAA802 drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} chainloader +1 } ### END /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ### if [ ${recordfail} != 1 ]; then if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then set linux_gfx_mode=keep else set linux_gfx_mode=text fi else set linux_gfx_mode=text fi else set linux_gfx_mode=keep fi else set linux_gfx_mode=text fi export linux_gfx_mode if [ "$linux_gfx_mode" != "text" ]; then load_video; fi menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-10-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro splash quiet splash vt.handoff=7 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-10-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.38-10-generic ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single splash echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic } submenu "Previous Linux versions" { menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro splash quiet splash vt.handoff=7 initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic } menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.38-8-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os { recordfail set gfxpayload=$linux_gfx_mode insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.38-8-generic ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single splash echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic } } ### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ### ### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ### menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" { insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin } menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" { insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(/dev/sda,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8 } ### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the # menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change # the 'exec tail' line above. ### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ### if [ -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then source $prefix/custom.cfg; fi ### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
I hope the spaces make it easier to read and jump from the command to the output, instead of more difficult. so /dev/sda2 is my ubuntu, and /dev/sdb1 is my windows, but what is my /dev/sda1? I don't know at all. How do I find out?? is this the problem? is the mbr or main grub loader supposed to be in /dev/sda1? or is that only reserved for another drive? if it's only reserved for another drive, then it's probably my external passport. I do, need a backup, since I use windows I mean can't have windows without a backup, as we can all see 
one thing that I do like about the difference between windows and linux, is linux has less gui information, but the commands give you extremely detailed output. Which is nice, whereas if you boot to windows command recovery, every out put is just pretty simple. I know some windows commands are pretty in depth, like the ones you get from using active directory commands. Well some commands, gpupdate doesn't tell you much. I believe you still need to capture instance, and things like such. Anyway I don't want to run off in left field or anything. Did that help you out at all? thanks quite a bit for the help, finding someone who knows linux commands is rare, but don't ask me why. it's an operating system with the same provided user functionality as windows, almost to the t, but completely free. free office, free server, operating system. you name it, and no viruses and no permanently fragmented hard drive. Ok let me know if you have any more ideas, thanks
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14959476 - 08/22/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many apologies for the delay my friend.
Alrighty, let's do this.
Step 1: Let's find out what /dev/sda1 is.
We'll do this by mounting that partition and seeing what files it contains.
To do this type:
Code:
sudo su mkdir /mnt/devsda1mntpnt mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/devsda1mntpnt
If it spits you an error about something being mounted already type this:
Code:
mount
And paste me the result.
Otherwise type: Code:
cd /mnt/devsda1mntpnt ls
And paste me the result.
Step 2:
Let's try automatically reconfiguring grub2.
Type: Code:
sudo su grub-install /dev/sda update-grub reboot
Now see how you go, can you boot into Windows or Ubuntu now? give it a shot and see what happens.
Step 3:
Grub2 is nasty complex piece of software that I'm for the moment unfamiliar with. Unfortunately ubuntu packages this silly bootloader with it by default (change for the sake of change I guess ).
Let's remove that nasty grub2 and replace is with a more reliable, more helpful legacy grub.
Type: Code:
sudo su apt-get purge grub2 grub-pc
It'll ask you if you want to remove and bla bla, hit yes.
Now that grub2 is gone, let's install grub.
Type: Code:
apt-get install grub mkdir /boot/grub update-grub grub-install /dev/sda update-grub
It'll ask you if you want '/boot/grub/menu.lst' generated you. TYPE Y (default is N so you MUST type Y MUST MUST).
Did anything go wrong? if you got any errors at all during this part paste them too me.
Okay now reboot (type reboot to reboot).
Can you boot into windows? does it work now? If not, go to the next part.
Step 4:
Assuming you've gotten this far and you can still boot into Ubuntu but not windows than that's excellent. What you need you to do is type:
Code:
cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
And paste me the output. We will take it from here.
Do Step 1 and then Step 2. If at any point you fix it between step 2 and 4 then congratulations, otherwise we should be able to work out what's up after you complete up to step 4.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14959617 - 08/22/11 04:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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[cd /mnt/devsda1mntpnt ls]:
AUTOEXEC.BAT Documents and Settings MSDOS.SYS Program Files boot.ini drvrtmp NTDETECT.COM System Volume Information CONFIG.SYS IO.SYS ntldr WINDOWS dell lj1010seriesprintsys pagefile.sys
[sudo su]:
[sudo] password for danel: root@danel-Dimension-4700:/home/danel# grub-install /dev/sda Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Installing GRUB to /dev/sda as (hd0)... Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
(fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/sda
[update-grub]:
debconf: DbDriver "passwords" warning: could not open /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat: Permission denied Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst cp: cannot remove `/boot/grub/menu.lst~': Permission denied
ok thanks I'll try reboot now, if that doesn't work I'll come back and try step 3 and 4 and post results. Hey, thanks a bunch
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14959630 - 08/22/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol now the option no longer exists to choose a boot partition at grub. not to be confused with being able to choose a boot device, that very well is possible if I hold f12 or f2. but linux now just boots up with no option for windows ntfs. hey, thanks for the great advice, let me try steps 3 and 4. you did you best, and I did my best to follow the instructions, so it's all good we tried very hard, thanks for racking your brain. I'll try steps 3 and 4 now and let you know how that works out.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14959648 - 08/22/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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it appears that grub 2 was never in there to begin with?
[apt-get purge grub2 grub-pc]:
Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package grub2 is not installed, so not removed The following packages will be REMOVED: grub-pc* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.
here is why:
[sudo apt-get install grub]
[sudo] password for danel: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done grub is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.
it's already installed
[grub-install /dev/sda]:
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Installing GRUB to /dev/sda as (hd0)... Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
I can't tell if this is an error or a "possible error don't know" message
[update-grub]:
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic Found GRUB 2: /boot/grub/core.img Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[cat /boot/grub/menu.1st]:
cat: /boot/grub/menu.1st: No such file or directory
anyway let me try rebooting at any time. if I put the windows recovery disk into the computer and run fixmbr that will basically do the opposite? rewrite the grub for just windows and then linux will disappear? I already tried bootcfg /parameter /scan /list /rebuild /fast detect and /default all using the bootcfg command. didn't help. Ok let me try restarting the computer just one more time, I did update the grub doubt that will have changed anything but it's always possible. Thanks a ton man, stay in touch!
ok same problem. it just boots linux, no option for windows. Ok we'll try again tomorrow. Thanks a ton
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14960303 - 08/22/11 10:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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btw, I don't mean to put 1800 posts in this thread, I'm just hoping you can differ between the commands and the output I posted. I can relist some of this if you want, if the way I replied is a bit choppy and hard to read. Here is something simpler:
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ]
grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,1)
did we already go through all that? I'm not sure what version of grub that is, but previously you wanted a command that listed /boot/grub/stage1, and it didn't work. this command did, if I'm not mistaken, is that what you were looking for?? Let me know if you need me to retry any steps you've listed so far. Thanks again
also, would any of this help?:
http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
UPDATE: ok I recovered windows xp in the grub. actually it won't boot, but by putting the windows disk into the cd drive, and running fixmbr, windows xp came back in grub, it just won't boot. so whatever we did with these linux commands, at the least we removed it from grub, and then restored it to grub. to most people that would be complete failure, but I think we are getting somewhere. we have diagnosed a symptom, that is a good start. so maybe we can work with this
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14961204 - 08/22/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
imachavel said: it IS /dev/sda1 for windows
sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xbcd9bcd9
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 28683 230396166 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda2 * 44619 60802 129989632 83 Linux Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary.
did we reset that? I hope we did, because I thought it was /dev/sdb1
Try to keep all information in this thread. It makes it easier for me to read if I don't have to flick back and forth between PMs.
Quote:
imachavel said: UPDATE: ok I recovered windows xp in the grub. actually it won't boot, but by putting the windows disk into the cd drive, and running fixmbr, windows xp came back in grub, it just won't boot. so whatever we did with these linux commands, at the least we removed it from grub, and then restored it to grub. to most people that would be complete failure, but I think we are getting somewhere. we have diagnosed a symptom, that is a good start. so maybe we can work with this 
Okay. This is an interesting problem.
What was /dev/sdb1 then? some kind of backup drive or something?
Also, boot into Ubuntu and type:
cat /boot/grub/menu.lst NOT cat /boot/grub/menu.1st
and tell me the result.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14961423 - 08/22/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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[cat /boot/grub/menu.lst]
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8) # grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8), # grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub # and /usr/share/doc/grub-legacy-doc/.
## default num # Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and # the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used. # # You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry # is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'. # WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your # array will desync and will not let you boot your system. default 0
## timeout sec # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry # (normally the first entry defined). timeout 3
## hiddenmenu # Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu) hiddenmenu
# Pretty colours #color cyan/blue white/blue
## password ['--md5'] passwd # If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing # control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the # command 'lock' # e.g. password topsecret # password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/ # password topsecret
# # examples # # title Windows 95/98/NT/2000 # root (hd0,0) # makeactive # chainloader +1 # # title Linux # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro #
# # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified ## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below
## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs
## ## Start Default Options ## ## default kernel options ## default kernel options for automagic boot options ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z ## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted. ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro ## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro # kopt=root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro
## default grub root device ## e.g. groot=(hd0,0) # groot=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280
## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. alternative=true ## alternative=false # alternative=true
## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options ## e.g. lockalternative=true ## lockalternative=false # lockalternative=false
## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the ## alternatives ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5 # defoptions=quiet splash
## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options ## e.g. lockold=false ## lockold=true # lockold=false
## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenhopt=
## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option # xenkopt=console=tty0
## altoption boot targets option ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options ## altoptions=(recovery) single # altoptions=(recovery mode) single
## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst ## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the ## alternative kernel options ## e.g. howmany=all ## howmany=7 # howmany=all
## specify if running in Xen domU or have grub detect automatically ## update-grub will ignore non-xen kernels when running in domU and vice versa ## e.g. indomU=detect ## indomU=true ## indomU=false # indomU=detect
## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option ## e.g. memtest86=true ## memtest86=false # memtest86=true
## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system ## can be true or false # updatedefaultentry=false
## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options ## can be true or false # savedefault=false
## ## End Default Options ##
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10-generic uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10-generic (recovery mode) uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-8-generic uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-8-generic (recovery mode) uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, memtest86+ uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
sorry, I guess I typed it wrong the first time. yes, /dev/sdb1 MUST have been the backup drive. I disconnected it so it wouldn't read out in the list. Does this help at all? man, linux sure doesn't play around with these commands do they. whew* what a read out.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14961496 - 08/22/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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imachavel said: whew* what a read out.
It's mostly just comments to help you configure grub.
I stripped the comments using this command (in case you're interested):
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grep -vE ^# menu.lst > menu2.lst
This left me with:
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t - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
default 0
timeout 3
hiddenmenu
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10-generic uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-10-generic (recovery mode) uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-10-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-8-generic uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, kernel 2.6.38-8-generic (recovery mode) uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-8-generic
title Ubuntu 11.04, memtest86+ uuid 9e221fdc-3cce-47c8-b9b0-21f52af08280 kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin
Which is really quite simple. It's just records for each item in the bootloader.
Those duplicate entries are simply there because of older kernel versions.
Looking at this file, there is NO windows XP entry specified, are you SURE that windows XP is showing up in grub the moment?
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14961602 - 08/22/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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at boot it shows up, I just can't log into it. wow that sucks. Why do the core grub files in dual boot systems always have to screw each other up? like they don't like being shared. and people act like linux is perfect  apparently it needs to be in the form (f|h)dn instead of "/dev/sda,msdos1"
we did something earlier, one of those commands you had me try removed windows entry from grub. then I ran fixmbr from recovery console and the windows entry returned, I just can't boot it from grub. let me know if you have any ideas, THANKS
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14961713 - 08/22/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Curious, curious indeed. Okay, don't play with any windows commands yet, we don't want to mess things up.
Start ubuntu and type the following commands in this order: (don't worry if you don't have grub2, we'll attempt to purge it anyway, just in case).
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sudo su apt-get purge grub2 grub-pc apt-get purge grub rm -r /boot/grub apt-get install grub mkdir /boot/grub update-grub grub-install /dev/sda update-grub rm /boot/grub/menu.lst wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst /boot/grub cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
Tell me if you get any errors before you reboot.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14963064 - 08/22/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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everything worked up until the last command:
sudo cat /boot/grub/menu.lst cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
btw what's up with: wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst /boot/grub
this file is installed on the shroomery web site?? lol, let me reboot
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14963214 - 08/22/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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imachavel said: btw what's up with: wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst /boot/grub
It's just a menu.lst file I made for you.
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imachavel said: lol, let me reboot
Okay, so I'm guessing your computer didn't boot?
That's my bad, I didn't proof read what I told you to type :/
I told you to type:
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wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst /boot/grub
When in fact I should have told you to type:
Code:
wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /boot/grub/menu.lst
If you can't boot into your Ubuntu now, don't fear. This is easily fixed.
Put an Ubuntu live CD in to your computer and boot off that.
Once you've arrived on the liveCD type:
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sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot
Your computer should now boot.
If you already repaired it yourself OR are able to still get into ubuntu then just do this again:
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sudo su apt-get purge grub2 grub-pc apt-get purge grub rm -r /boot/grub apt-get install grub mkdir /boot/grub update-grub grub-install /dev/sda update-grub rm /boot/grub/menu.lst wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /boot/grub/menu.lst cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
(don't worry, all the commands work now).
If cat /boot/grub/menu.lst fails to produce output (i.e. says: "cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory") then don't reboot.
Otherwise reboot.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14963412 - 08/22/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, linux wouldn't boot at all. it brought me to grub automatically. so I need to put my live cd in and boot with that. and I use those commands when I'm inside ubuntu or just to get to start up, I boot from terminal or what? Sorry I'm just a bit confused
I might have to come back to this tomorrow. I'm using a different computer now to type this
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14963696 - 08/23/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok I'm booted into the live cd. I'm going to try all the commands you listed 3 times in a row, then I'll reboot. if I can't get in to any partition, then I'll be using a different pc and will just use windows 7 for the night.
the good news: I booted to gparted before I booted to this live cd. gparted listed 2 healthy partitions, one ext3, one ntfs, so it's all still in here. Thank god. ok, since you seem to know your stuff maybe when this is all over I can ask you some questions regarding logging in to d link with the d link i.p. and forwarding some ports, specifically, ones that allow me to use the program synergy to run two pc's with one keyboard and mouse. I'll pm you about it later when this thread is over. Let me get back to the hard core stuff I'll run those commands twice then reboot and see what happens, if anything I'll let you know tomorrow, let me know when you log back on.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14963763 - 08/23/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes. Simply put the Ubuntu live CD in the Unbootable computer, open a terminal (on the live CD) and type:
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sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot
That'll fix grub. Pop the live CD out and your computer should be able to boot fine.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14963884 - 08/23/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure I already tried this, and that linux won't boot unless the live cd is in there. yes, this is the first thing you posted, it didn't work, I'll try this out:
sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot
but first I think I have to reboot. linux doesn't like the live cd so much, there is always something wrong. this time I can't open the terminal. hey, I appreciate the help, if we can't fix it, then I don't know. we tried
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14963924 - 08/23/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I believe i completely misunderstood you. My apologies sir. When we purged grub2, and installed grub. it loads grub as a command line interface at start up, correct? so what I need now, is the correct set of commands. I'm guessing I load kernel, and then load either /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 correct? giving me the choice for windows or linux??
tell me I'm getting somewhere. this is what happens though from the commands I loaded in terminal, at restart >grub appears. with help it gives me the option to load /dev/ but first I need to load the kernel. I'm pretty sure I'm close.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14964007 - 08/23/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I told you to do this:
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Dawks said: Code:
sudo su apt-get purge grub2 grub-pc apt-get purge grub rm -r /boot/grub apt-get install grub mkdir /boot/grub update-grub grub-install /dev/sda update-grub rm /boot/grub/menu.lst wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst /boot/grub cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
This broke grub (but your file system is in tact).
That means that we will not be able to boot into your system AT ALL. Instead you'll see something that looks like this:

This is where you are now right?
Grub can't be fixed from this screen. We need to fix it using the live CD.
Put in the live/installer CD and boot from it:

Click "Try Ubuntu". Now Go to Applications->Accessories->Terminal

In the terminal type:
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sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot

Now when you reboot you computer (without the live CD). The boot menu should be restored.

This is ALL we want for now. Once you get to this point we can add XP but you MUST get here first.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14964884 - 08/23/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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[sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot]
this didn't work. I've GOT to leave windows 7 running for a few hours to complete a scan and a few crucial downloads. in a few hours I'll log back in to live cd. Yes, everything worked as you explained it. the only problem is that that command didn't work. I must have gotten an error that I could type out here. I'll try the commands like 8 more times, and ANY possible error I'll post it.
I can see you log in quite a bit. I hope you aren't taking too much time out of your life to help me fix this. Anyway, what times do you log in?? I'll try and post at those times to make it easier. I have no idea why THIS:
[sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot]
didn't work from live cd. But I'll post any error messages I get, THANKS
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: Dawks]
#14966317 - 08/23/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dawks said:

This is ALL we want for now. Once you get to this point we can add XP but you MUST get here first.
ok I think i see what's going on. this screen does come up first, but for a split second, so quickly, that i can barely see that it loads. in fact it's so quick that I'm not sure if the Dawk's boot loader is included in the loading. then it takes me to a loader, that isn't grub, but is some linux command line. it's probably loading ubuntu but only in recovery mode. so I get to a command prompt that asks for name and root password, and then from there I'm stuck since I don't know the commands.
now I'm not sure if your boot loader option appears in the loading screen, as I don't have time to select a boot option. when I run this:
sudo su mkdir /mnt/myfs mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst reboot
there are definitely no errors. it's installing whatever you loaded into your shroomery web files page. I don't know, is there a way to increase the time out so I can look at that grub loader and see if Dawk's is in there. now if that option ISN'T in there, why would it not be? I'll retry those commands and give you a direct read out, because there are no errors, that way you can see what is going on
sudo su root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mkdir /mnt/myfs root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount/dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs bash: mount/dev/sda2: No such file or directory root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/myfs root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# wget http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst -O /mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst --2011-08-23 20:56:55-- http://bytecube.net/temp/shroomery/menu.lst Resolving bytecube.net... 70.40.198.141 Connecting to bytecube.net|70.40.198.141|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1171 (1.1K) [text/plain] Saving to: `/mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst'
100%[======================================>] 1,171 --.-K/s in 0s
2011-08-23 20:56:55 (42.7 MB/s) - `/mnt/myfs/boot/grub/menu.lst' saved [1171/1171]
so it all went through, in the mean time, I'll try rebooting a few times, and seeing if maybe I can get the screen to hang for a minute. if I can't I don't know I only glimpse what is on there. so getting to dawk's boot loader is key then I see
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14966412 - 08/23/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok yes I did get to dawks' bootloader, but it gave me this error while trying to load:
[error 1: file must be either an absolute pathname or block list]
this wasn't at all what you were expecting was it? I was just thinking about how funny it'd be if it WAS what you were expecting ROFLMAO anywho, I'm trying to convince myself that I still want windows back. ubuntu has drivers preloaded, and it doesn't break, at least no viruses, no blue screens of death etc. I get windows back, first thing I'll have to fix a shit ton of drivers, then try and crack an activation key, then probably the whole thing will give out on me I'll end up loading it again.
for the sake of all the effort you put into helping me though, I say we see this through to the end. I'd like to see a possible dual boot between linux and windows. seems like windows is the bad kid that can't read or write and won't play nice, while linux is the hardvard graduate, but then windows starts pissing linux off, and linux gets kind of cranky and starts making us figure out quantum physics make sense at all? I liked the analogy 
ok so just to make sure we are on the same page, let me repost this part:
ok yes I did get to dawks' bootloader, but it gave me this error while trying to load:
[error 1: file must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist]
that's where I'm at now
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14972609 - 08/24/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure when dealing with Windows a person has to have the boot flag enabled for the Windows partition instead of the MBR. Windows gets jealous like that sometimes.
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
#14972907 - 08/24/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cutless said: I'm pretty sure when dealing with Windows a person has to have the boot flag enabled for the Windows partition instead of the MBR. Windows gets jealous like that sometimes. 
windows is a jealous motherfucker. linux and mac play along nice, but windows doesn't like either one, that's because bill gates spoiled windows with 60 billion 
anyway, how do I enable the boot flag for windows? omg at this point I just should figure out if I can log into either partition. maybe f8 but that will probably get me into linux safe mode instead of windows safe mode, which is command line based. Oh well
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: imachavel]
#14978299 - 08/25/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Boot into your Linux distro or a live cd, open GParted, right click on your Windows NTFS partition, choose manage flags, and check boot. Not sure if it'll automatically show up in GRUB on restart, I doubt it though. So you may have to re-add the Windows XP option or just completely reinstall GRUB. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
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Re: linux question, ntfs windows xp doesn't want to be booted in the grub [Re: SOLID BASTARD]
#14986460 - 08/27/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok awesome. I'm leaving town on a flight in four hours and won't be back for a week. I'm going to leave my horrible dell pc here and come back to it in a week, so I won't try this now, but will def give it a shot in a week. I can use that web site to reinstall grub for both partitions? rewriting the grub script entirely might just be the best option, I'll try the gparted solution though beforehand, but in a week.
if I can't figure it out, I'll get onhand help, we've done just about as much as possible in this thread. so thanks a bunch hope I get it fixed. otherwise thread closed
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