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 deep
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 Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? 
#1494137 - 04/25/03 06:34 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm an experienced grower who's just setting up again after a move and I ordered a P.Cubensis strain from Spore Works, and I 've got spores from them in the past but I'm worried because I havn't seen any growth with my new spore syringes. But I used a PES Hawaiian from a long time ago and I had growth within a few days So my question is; "are the spore works sporeworks.com syringes still viable or has the works changed thier policies on P.cubensis."
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1494146 - 04/25/03 06:43 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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But I used a PES Hawaiian from a long time ago and I had growth within a few days So my question is; "are the spore works sporeworks.com syringes still viable or has the works changed thier policies on P.cubensis."
Yes they changed their policy to sell unviable spores  
lol, sorry I just couldn't help it.
Sporeworks is highly reputable, either be patient with the growing process, sometimes it takes a few weeks to get good growth.
If not of course email them and I'm sure they would send a replacement.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1494240 - 04/25/03 07:37 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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How long have you waited?
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deep
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: Thor]
#1494392 - 04/25/03 09:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had the cakes in there for 2weeks plus so Maybe I didn't shake it up enough or something, I was just a little worried since the works changed thier image alot, any way thanks for the quick reply guys I appreciate it. i don't know if it makes a difference but they were treasure coast spores so I'll just cook up a batch tommorrow no biggy. (I think I was just being paranoid The works has never done me wrong before hehe) happy cultivating.
One more question though I inoculated some nutrient agar plates from my local science shop does it matter what thier made out of aside from blood agar of course, if thier nutrient based.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1495035 - 04/26/03 01:28 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey whats up I had the EXACT same problem (even had the HAW print already) syringe was not viable but the print was, they sent me another syringe and it too was not viable so they are sending me a print ( as the last one of them I got from them was good) .
Now heres the thing depending on where you live your mail may be xrayed or irradiated (nuked) if the xray looks even a little funny, and I believe that this radiation MAY kill the spores.
This is what I believe simply because I have read a few other posts here and elsewhere of people getting dud syringes but I have also read alot of great things about the sporeworks and I can testify to the fact that they REALLY go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfide.
So in my opinion email them and get a PRINT and make your own ( its easy as hell if you have a glove box and are carefull i made 1 with no signs of contams yet...knock on wood...and I had NEVER grown shrooms or done anything like this untill that point.
Also TLG is coming back in june I think and I have never heard a single complaint about his service to date.
Or you could try the Spore Refill Center.....only costs a priority stamp and an empty syringe and you can get three filled at a time.
Whatever you do learn to be self reproducing as soon as possible because places like Sporeworks TLG and other "vendors" may not be in business for much longer as the last of our freedoms are ripped away from us while we save yet another country (so there people can be "free" too.....NOT!!!!)
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1495064 - 04/26/03 01:48 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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5 stars for the spore refill center, i definitely reccomend them. as far as the x - ray thing goes i've not heard of that but it sounds logical, but wouldn't the prints undergo the same process ?
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deep
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1495067 - 04/26/03 01:49 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I've actually ordered from them in the past and I agree they've always been most helpfull, and yea we do need to get as self reliant as possible cuz they are ripping shit away from us and fast (PATRIOT ACT I) I mean shit the patriot act is as un-american as communism (extreme view) but you get the idea. Any way I still have 3.5 syringes left if they fail I'll hit them back. How can I tell them that the spores aren't viable if I'm only supposed to use them for microscopy? I mean if you 've ordered from them before you'll notice the dramatic change in the P.Cubensis area even the descriptions were changed. By the way thanks for all the support that I'm getting this community really kicks ass I can't wait till I get back started with everything so I can help out with others as well as sharing some experiments with people. You guys are great.
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deep
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1495071 - 04/26/03 01:52 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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where is the spore refill center?
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1495182 - 04/26/03 02:51 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tell them you "studied them under your microscope and did not find any viable spores" at least thats what a wise person here told me when asked.
And the refill center can be found here http://spores.acscomp.com/index2.htm
and its forum here http://www.acscomp.com/forums/ just make sure NEVER to mention you or your "pet" might use them for anything other than Microscopic purposes.
And if you do use the Refill center and become self reliant then it would be nice of you to "donate" a print of your own to keep the place going (plus if you donate a print you also get a syringe of whatever strain you want I think)
Good luck to you in your endevors and remember to pass along anything you have learned to the next newb so these wonderfull things and teachings never go extinct.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1495188 - 04/26/03 02:54 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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And DSD i dont think they get the radiation treatment unless they are Xrayed and or look suspicous.
Also I would not put it past the government to try to kill some of the shipments from spore vendors before they get to their destnation just to possibly shut down a vendor by eliminating there customers. I believe Mycotopia.net's DOS attack was a government "hack". And so do others there.
Edited by mycophat (04/26/03 02:59 AM)
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1495263 - 04/26/03 03:25 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats not the sporeworks. Just email them to get new syringes, not to some site we know nothing about.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: Thor]
#1495292 - 04/26/03 03:38 AM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now hold on a second Thor even if he gets a replacement syringe it may be a dud as well as I have documented. Also you may know nothing about TLG and the refill center but others (people who have been in this field for a long,long time) have used those sites and will back me up, in fact I have not heard of one single complaint about either sources product can you say the same about Sporeworks (No because you can search yourself right here on this very board and find at least 4 within the last three months.)
Now I'm not saying to "give up" on sporeworks I'm simply trying to help the guy out the rest is up to him.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1496050 - 04/26/03 02:11 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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You guys are great. Has anybody tried the spore refill center? How quick are they to deliver back? or do they notify you when it's coming? because I kind of have to know when they will be here. It's not a matter of waiting I can wait as long as it takes I just need to be NOTIFIED.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1496052 - 04/26/03 02:12 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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By the way I would gladly donate some TC(Treasure Coast) Cuz it dosn't seem like they have it.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1496128 - 04/26/03 03:01 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure on how long it will take to get to you but the forum I posted a link to will help you with your questions as they notify people of their order shipments at that forum. Also like I said I have not only read quite a few great reports about them but I also know that at least two people involved in that board are old pro's of the myco world and I would trust them unconditionaly.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1496205 - 04/26/03 03:55 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hello, new to the board, but have some experience with growing.
Your post is making me nervous! I am also waiting for first growth from jars that I innoculated with spore syringes purchased from The Spore Works. So far, after 16 days, I have zero growth (and zero contamination, so I feel that I did everything right).
This is my first time using spores supplied by The Spore Works. Reading all of the posts in this thread and elsewhere on the board doesn't do much to encourage me that I will get any mycelial growth in this batch.
FYI: I used two syringes of the B+ P. cubensis variety suppled by The Spore Works. When they arrived in the mail, I noticed right off the bat that the spore solution looked a little light on spores to me; I've ordered spores from other businesses in the past and have received syringes that were almost dark purple there were so many spores inside. (To their credit, the spores got here super fast and I'm convinced that they are honest business people).
I have emailed The Spore Works to let them know of my difficulty and will let everyone here know what the outcome is so that you can have an idea of what to do if you are experiencing the same problems.
In the future, I hope to avoid this problem by: A) Getting free spores from The Refill Center; B) Becoming self-sufficient enough to never need to order another syringe or print again as I can sense that the "chill wind" of Ashcroft's Justice Department may soon see all spore outlets closed for good.
Curt,
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: Labyrinth13]
#1496329 - 04/26/03 04:35 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Deep what strain did you order?
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deep
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: mycophat]
#1496487 - 04/26/03 05:48 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got the Treasure Coast, I just reinoculated the jars that showed no growth and no contamination today as well as some nutrient agar plates and in the past I've seen the works give the same syringes as they did this time they always just look like water but I've never had a problem untill now. I'm going to try out the SRC for my next batch, does anybody know how to sterilize syringes I have a pressure cooker but I'm reluctant to use it because it get's so hot, should I just Pasturize?
I want to re-establish the fact that I used a hawaiian solution from the works that was months old and it still worked.
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: deep]
#1496536 - 04/26/03 06:12 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Experienced growers: Do you recommend adding more spore solution to jars that don't seem to be growing with the first inoculation?
Thanks in advance.
Edited by Labyrinth13 (04/26/03 06:13 PM)
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Re: Spore Works Syringes Still Viable? [Re: Labyrinth13]
#1496587 - 04/26/03 06:35 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's actually what I did today, Labrinth. There's no harm as long as there's no contamination, Cuz think if you cooked the cakes it's a sterile substrate and it will stay that way untill in get contaminated or inoculated keep in my mind that you are still puting a fungus in to the cakes you just know which fungus it is so as long as there is no growth that you can't identify or that you didn't put in there your self you could still use them as media's for growth.
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