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Vartousky
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I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe?
#14939663 - 08/17/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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A couple weeks ago I was collecting Hpoo, and thought I remembered reading that "Common Scotch Broom" contains tryptamine. Well it turns out it was "tyramine" and some other semi-poisons. Anyways, I took a hand full o' some flowers and added it to the bag. I thought "what's the worst that could happen "
Are these or ?
FYI I'm going to try a 2g if nobody knows anything 
If you have any theories, suggestions etc, please share. Thanks!
Edited by Vartousky (08/17/11 09:58 PM)
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Vartousky]
#14939880 - 08/17/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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mushrooms wont pick up anything from the substrate (minus a couple hard metals) into the fruitbody, your good. 
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well, once your cake or casing has mold in it, so do the mushies, so yes, you are eating mold. The mushies are made up of and grow on the mycelium network. That network carries nutes to the mushies, it also carries the contam to the mushies. So if there is mold on your casing, it is also in the mushi.
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My friend, that is totally false and goes against everything we've learned about how mycelium works. Mushrooms are not like plants where the mycelium is the root. It simply doesn't work that way. The mycelium metabolizes the food it 'eats'. When you go to paul stamets seminars he covers this myth in depth. He has used mycelium to clean up diesel oil spills and other toxic waste dumps and the mushrooms are completely edible and free of all toxins from the soil as established by rigorous testing with gas chromatography.
For those of you who are afraid of moldy cakes, be sure to never eat cheese, because cheese can not be made without mold. Very thick layers of mold are cut off the blocks of cheese to give them eye-appeal for the market. The cheese is safe, believe me. You've all eaten cheese all your lives.
Now, that being said, I immediately throw away any contaminated substrate as soon as I see it. The danger is in polluting my growing environment with the released spores that will contaminate future projects. However, any mushrooms on the substrate are 100% safe to eat. That is a fact. We seriously need less disinformation and fear mongering. If anyone can produce evidence from one of the established university mycological programs such as Penn State, or anything Stamets has written on the subject I will gladly eat my words. I have done serious research into this. Green molds are common in commercial mushroom operations, so if you eat store bought edible mushrooms, you are very often eating mushrooms from substrates with molds. There is not mold in the fruitbody. They are 100% safe. RR

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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14939949 - 08/17/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks a lot! I was starting to get worried I'd have to discard my first bulk grow
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Vartousky]
#14941303 - 08/18/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14941307 - 08/18/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
i wish i would've thought of that when i lived by the Appalachian mountains
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Fungus_monk]
#14942439 - 08/18/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Barakanaten
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14942486 - 08/18/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
I'll do it, I'll start searching for poison ivy, hopefully I have time to locate it by the end of the day.
Any suggestions/preference as to which species/variety?
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14942489 - 08/18/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
how would one go about doing this because there is a ton of poison ivy by me
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Barakanaten]
#14942510 - 08/18/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Barakanaten said:
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RogerRabbit said: Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
I'll do it, I'll start searching for poison ivy, hopefully I have time to locate it by the end of the day.
Any suggestions/preference as to which species/variety?
http://www.poison-ivy.org/html/faq.htm
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14942541 - 08/18/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Someone should do a nightshade grow... Just sayin...
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Barakanaten
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14942606 - 08/18/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
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Barakanaten said:
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RogerRabbit said: Somebody should do a poison ivy grow just to show the mycelium will metabolize the substrate, and the toxins won't show up in the fruits. I'd do it but poison ivy/oak doesn't grow around here. RR
I'll do it, I'll start searching for poison ivy, hopefully I have time to locate it by the end of the day.
Any suggestions/preference as to which species/variety?
http://www.poison-ivy.org/html/faq.htm
Thanks 13, 
Looks like it grows pretty much everywhere except the way west at high altitudes.
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Barakanaten]
#14952585 - 08/20/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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SO in an effort to procure Poison Ivy and Poison Oak, I ran a local add with no avail, I did get some peculiar responses as to why I needed it...
on the bright side a few AMU members have offered to locate and harvest Poison Ivy Toxicodendron radicans and some Poison Oak Toxicodendron diversilobum.
I'll update as my efforts progress.
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Barakanaten]
#14952608 - 08/20/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Carl Sagan]
#14952666 - 08/20/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14952726 - 08/20/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just realized this is another persons thread....
Not sure if I'm demonstrating proper netiquette here, Should I just make a new thread now?
Any thoughts?
Op sorry if I have I got all excited
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: Barakanaten]
#14952744 - 08/20/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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i would make a new one once youve collected, unless you are still looking for more.
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: k00laid]
#14952759 - 08/20/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Id just put the new link for your thread here once its ready. like a "to be cont...." type deal.
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Re: I mixed scotch broom with Hpoo... is my harvest safe? [Re: 13shrooms]
#14969111 - 08/24/11 12:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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k00laid said: i would make a new one once youve collected, unless you are still looking for more.
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13shrooms said: Id just put the new link for your thread here once its ready. like a "to be cont...." type deal. 
Okay sounds like a plan.
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