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Offlineguywiththegun
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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: daussaulit]
    #14627203 - 06/17/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Join a local homebrew club too, or at least go to a meeting. A lot of times they'll have beginner brew days, and I think Teach a Friend To Brew Day is coming up soon, most shops do it up big for that. Beer festivals are a good place to look too.


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: ElChe]
    #14655078 - 06/22/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The easiest recipes are the best recipes.

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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #14671581 - 06/25/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im kind of a homebrewer, i make and distill my own rum. Its gone well so far, half way done with a bottle of great spiced rum that i bottled on the 19Th. Its real tasty stuff. just started an all mollasses wash last night, 23L of 13% and after distilling/cutting/aging it'll be about 6x 40% 750ml bottles of rum, costing only £1.53($2.44) per bottle and its much better than the captain morgans. :awesomenod:

I bought a brew extract kit with real hops and beer brewing equipment, it should arrive tomorow. Im going to make 21 Litres of 'English Summer Ale', they say its their base ale and you can modify it. here's the recipe:
'Bring 6 litres of water to between 65-70 C and steep 350g of the crystal malt for 30 mins. Monitor the temp and add heat if it drops below 65 C. Remove the grains with a strainer and bring the liquid to the boil.

Dissolve the malt extract and 15g of the Progress hops and 20g of Goldings. Boil for 30 mins. Add a further 10g of Progress hops and 15g of the Goldings and boil for a further 30 minutes. Add a further 15g of the Goldings for another 2 mins. then strain and add to fermentation bucket...'

Its gotten great reviews on the site, and im going to add extra malt extract at the end of the boiling to raise the ABV to 4.5%, then put it in a secondary fermentor to clear, prime, then bottle.

I bought some Irish moss to help with the clearing, I've heard mixed instructions, how do you use it? i was thinking adding in the last 15Minutes of the boil?

really exited for my 1st beer brew, hoping it will go well since i have all the equipment needed. making a gallon of mead too.
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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: Tcm19277]
    #14672027 - 06/25/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Careful with kits...Im not saying that it will not taste good, but you can make your own recipes after going throu this process.


I would get a paint strainer bag or anytype of nylon bag fo those speaclity grains...straining them out with metal strainer is a pain in the ass...make sure they are properly crushed as well.

After you remove the speacilty grains, and add your malt extract, pitch the hops....adding hops at different timeframes gives you differnt charactertics in beer...the longer the boil the more "bitterting" you get....late hop additions give armoa.  There is no reason to strain the hops.

Make sure to cool the wort down before pitching the yeast!

You know your water profile from your tap? It makes a big differance....if you dont.... use bottled water or spring water

Secondary fermenation (carboys) are only nesscary if you plan to condition it...like a dry hop...leave it in the primary for 3 weeks...and you should be ok


u doing a full boil or partial?


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: Tcm19277]
    #14695169 - 06/30/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ahh yeaaah. 

ElChe and I have 5 gallons of our second attempt at creating a Red IPA four days into fermentation, and 47 bottles of a 100+ IBU (double?) IPA waiting to be tasted until the 4th of July. 

Good times are on the horizon. 


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Bring 6 litres of water to between 65-70 C and steep 350g of the crystal malt for 30 mins. Monitor the temp and add heat if it drops below 65 C. Remove the grains with a strainer and bring the liquid to the boil.

Dissolve the malt extract and 15g of the Progress hops and 20g of Goldings. Boil for 30 mins. Add a further 10g of Progress hops and 15g of the Goldings and boil for a further 30 minutes. Add a further 15g of the Goldings for another 2 mins. then strain and add to fermentation bucket...'


I bought some Irish moss to help with the clearing, I've heard mixed instructions, how do you use it? i was thinking adding in the last 15Minutes of the boil?





If you haven't already brewed, definitely be sure to use a nylon bag or a large grain sock, and definitely give it a good squeeze after steeping to get all of the goodness out. 

Also, we generally wait to add hops until we get the malt extract back to a boil since that can take quite a while doing it on a stove top (which I assume you are using).  That gives you more control over the amount of time your hops spend at a boil, whereas adding them before getting the malt to a boil may mean the hops spend 20-30 minutes extra in the wort. 

As for Irish Moss, we have used it a few times and we generally add it the last 10-15 minutes of the boil.  Just a dash or two will do!


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: shadowed]
    #14695679 - 06/30/11 05:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Best of luck with the first brew! Most important rule: Have Fun!

IDIPA- bottle conditioning
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American Blonde and Strong- Sitting in it's secondary, Calming the Fuck down!


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #14711789 - 07/03/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

New here but have some experience home brewing. It's a very rewarding hobby :smirk:. Has anyone here tried brewing wine or mead before?

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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: mushroomcloud9]
    #14722029 - 07/05/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i did the boil a few nights ago with a big pot with a strainer that fit inside built in so it was easy to strain the grains then hops out and squeeze the goodness out. i just followed the instructions and it went smoothly, it smells good already :awesomenod: and thanks shadowed, i did wait for it to boil after adding the malt extract before adding the hops, and wrote everything down so i got the times right. used mineral water from the shop instead of my tap water. It wasn't as easy as brewing/distilling good rum, but it was more fun, and i look forward to tasting some :smile:


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: Tcm19277]
    #14800683 - 07/20/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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i did the boil a few nights ago with a big pot with a strainer that fit inside built in so it was easy to strain the grains then hops out and squeeze the goodness out. i just followed the instructions and it went smoothly, it smells good already :awesomenod: and thanks shadowed, i did wait for it to boil after adding the malt extract before adding the hops, and wrote everything down so i got the times right. used mineral water from the shop instead of my tap water. It wasn't as easy as brewing/distilling good rum, but it was more fun, and i look forward to tasting some :smile:




So how did bottling go?  I assume you'll probably be tasting this fine beverage inside the next week or two, so you'll have to let us know how it went!


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: shadowed]
    #14865269 - 08/03/11 12:34 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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i did the boil a few nights ago with a big pot with a strainer that fit inside built in so it was easy to strain the grains then hops out and squeeze the goodness out. i just followed the instructions and it went smoothly, it smells good already :awesomenod: and thanks shadowed, i did wait for it to boil after adding the malt extract before adding the hops, and wrote everything down so i got the times right. used mineral water from the shop instead of my tap water. It wasn't as easy as brewing/distilling good rum, but it was more fun, and i look forward to tasting some :smile:




So how did bottling go?  I assume you'll probably be tasting this fine beverage inside the next week or two, so you'll have to let us know how it went!





I had my 1st drink of it tonight, I think its a brilliant result for my 1st time :awethumb:
I haven't done all of the bottling yet, Its been in the secondary fermentation bucket since the 14th July and has cleared up nicely. I'm just waiting on my sterilizing powder to come in the post to sterilize another bucket/bottles (should be arriving tomorrow!) so I can bottle the whole lot. I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow, maybe with some pics.
I filled up 2 bottles 4 days ago and added some sugar water and capped, kept them at room temp and It was nicely carbonated tonight when I drunk them. The quality is about the same as the medium quality (£1-£1.20/bottle) Ale's from the shops, which are still delicious, so Im very happy about that considering it was my 1st attempt. Although I dont think I will get a real taste for It until I bottle the lot and have a few more bottles, but I like it, Its very nice. Im hopping :smirk: to get another batch started soon, when money allows it. another pre-measured 'kit' to get the hang of it. Its not one of the crappy kits, It just gives you pre measured quantities. malt extract, crystal malt, hops, grains all ready. I've heard most kits use pellets of hops etc. I cant wait to experiment with other recipes once I get the hang of this, Im Just going to need more space for all my buckets and bottles :lol:
Its a brilliant hobby, Much more fun than Distilling, And I'll be keeping it up :thumbup:
Im hoping to get a few different types brewing so I can have a selection, buying nice beer is just getting too expensive as well- about £2/$3.25 per 500ml bottle in the supermarket.

I have a question, If i use VWP sterilizing solution for my bottles and rinse about 4 times with hose-water from outside, would that contaminate the bottles or would it be alright?
and the caps, Is it 100% neccesary to sterilize them? It doesn't seem like a big deal to me, I forgot to sterilize my secondary fermentor (stupid, I know. one of the reasons I want to try again.) but nothing bad happened, there are small white spots 1-2cm diameter on the top but im pretty sure those are just bubbles like I've read on brew forums.

brewing FTW  :heart:
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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: Tcm19277]
    #14914002 - 08/13/11 12:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I have a question, If i use VWP sterilizing solution for my bottles and rinse about 4 times with hose-water from outside, would that contaminate the bottles or would it be alright?

...and the caps, Is it 100% neccesary to sterilize them?




I haven't used the VWP brand, however your risk of contamination is probably fairly low unless your hose is something nasty.  Nevertheless, I prefer to use no-rinse sterilizers such as Five Star's Star San, in order to remove the potential contamination threat from a standard water tap.  Note that Star San is only a sanitizer, not a cleaner.

Absolutely sanitize your caps.  You should get in the habit of sanitizing everything that comes into contact with your brew post-boil (I always have a spray bottle full of Star San hanging around for a little sanitizing action in a pinch).  While you may get lucky with lazy habits from time to time, diligent use of sanitizer is a small price to pay for the added insurance that your beer will be the best that it can be.


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: geokills]
    #14915003 - 08/13/11 08:08 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ive never hade problems using water from the water hose. id just make sure to be organized and keep all your bottles and equipment very clean,

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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: geokills]
    #14916250 - 08/13/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I have a question, If i use VWP sterilizing solution for my bottles and rinse about 4 times with hose-water from outside, would that contaminate the bottles or would it be alright?

...and the caps, Is it 100% neccesary to sterilize them?




I haven't used the VWP brand, however your risk of contamination is probably fairly low unless your hose is something nasty.  Nevertheless, I prefer to use no-rinse sterilizers such as Five Star's Star San, in order to remove the potential contamination threat from a standard water tap.  Note that Star San is only a sanitizer, not a cleaner.

Absolutely sanitize your caps.  You should get in the habit of sanitizing everything that comes into contact with your brew post-boil (I always have a spray bottle full of Star San hanging around for a little sanitizing action in a pinch).  While you may get lucky with lazy habits from time to time, diligent use of sanitizer is a small price to pay for the added insurance that your beer will be the best that it can be.




Hi everyone.  I much prefer Iodophor sanitizer for bottles caps and carboys.  The Star San don't fear the foam notion scares me.  That stuff foams up like no other!  Don't rinse your bottles what was the point of the sanitizer?  Trust me, I majored in food science if you rinse it you will be sad.  Just use a capful of Iodophor in 5 gallons that's all you need.  Do not rinse, just turn the bottles upside down twice and give them a shake.  You get beer bombs and infections from doing silly things like rinsing bottles.  There is so little iodine left in the bottle it's trace and even if there is a smidge it's good for you. Unlike Star San.


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14921764 - 08/14/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Iodophor is a fine choice, but it does tend to stain plastic components an orange-yellow color and will require some additional scrubbing/spraying for total sanitation in tight crevices.  I don't take any issue with the amount of residual dilute Star San that's left in my buckets/bottles/lines after a no-rinse operation.  The stuff is easy to use, and at the proper concentration, doesn't irritate my skin in the slightest, even after full and repeated submersion.  The vast majority of the product is phosphoric acid, the same ingredient used to flavor soft drinks such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi.  The other primary ingredient, dodecylbenzene sulfonic acid, is the acid version of the bubbles found in conventional toothpaste.  The third (smallest) ingredient is propylene glycol, used universally in candy and food making applications as a humectant to make things moister and softer.  These are all on the GRAS list (generally recommended as safe).

This Basic Brewing interview with Chuck Talley, the inventor of Star San, supports these claims: http://cdn.libsyn.com/basicbrewing/bbr03-29-07.mp3

The guy developed Star San as a direct response to iodophor's success in replacing bleach in the dairy industry.  Star San is meant to be an improvement over iodophor, the only perceived drawback for its original intended use as a sanitizing spray for milk trucks, being the foaming action.  However, when sanitizing things like a Corny keg in brewing, the foam is a real benefit since it gets into the nooks and crannies at the top of the keg without having to do any additional scrubbing/spraying/shaking.  Chuck has even drank diluted Star San in front of people to prove that in its dilute form, it is extremely safe (undiluted, this stuff can remove Formica solely on account of the concentration of phosphoric acid).  Once the product is diluted out and its pH rises above 3.5, it's germicidal properties are gone and it actually becomes food (e.g. yeast food!).  I can support this anecdotally, since I empty my used Star San in a specific corner of my yard, and the plants there have been thriving where before nothing was even growing!

Incidentally, if you buy deionized water to create your Star San solution, the lack of minerals will allow the solution to stay active for two or three months before rising to a pH above 3.5.  When there are minerals present in the water, over a period of time the minerals will chemically react to create a hard water soap that makes the product cloudy and raises pH above its effective sanitation range.  Note that in a 5 gallon batch of beer, any residual Star San that was in your fermenter or bottles is not enough to cause any issues with head retention, aggregate pH or taste.


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: geokills]
    #14925575 - 08/15/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Iodophor is a fine choice, but it does tend to stain plastic components an orange-yellow color and will require some additional scrubbing/spraying for total sanitation in tight crevices.  I don't take any issue with the amount of residual dilute Star San that's left in my buckets/bottles/lines after a no-rinse operation.  The stuff is easy to use, and at the proper concentration, doesn't irritate my skin in the slightest, even after full and repeated submersion.  The vast majority of the product is phosphoric acid, the same ingredient used to flavor soft drinks such as Coca-Cola and Pepsi.  The other primary ingredient, dodecylbenzene sulfonic acid, is the acid version of the bubbles found in conventional toothpaste.  The third (smallest) ingredient is propylene glycol, used universally in candy and food making applications as a humectant to make things moister and softer.  These are all on the GRAS list (generally recommended as safe).

This Basic Brewing interview with Chuck Talley, the inventor of Star San, supports these claims: http://cdn.libsyn.com/basicbrewing/bbr03-29-07.mp3

The guy developed Star San as a direct response to iodophor's success in replacing bleach in the dairy industry.  Star San is meant to be an improvement over iodophor, the only perceived drawback for its original intended use as a sanitizing spray for milk trucks, being the foaming action.  However, when sanitizing things like a Corny keg in brewing, the foam is a real benefit since it gets into the nooks and crannies at the top of the keg without having to do any additional scrubbing/spraying/shaking.  Chuck has even drank diluted Star San in front of people to prove that in its dilute form, it is extremely safe (undiluted, this stuff can remove Formica solely on account of the concentration of phosphoric acid).  Once the product is diluted out and its pH rises above 3.5, it's germicidal properties are gone and it actually becomes food (e.g. yeast food!).  I can support this anecdotally, since I empty my used Star San in a specific corner of my yard, and the plants there have been thriving where before nothing was even growing!

Incidentally, if you buy deionized water to create your Star San solution, the lack of minerals will allow the solution to stay active for two or three months before rising to a pH above 3.5.  When there are minerals present in the water, over a period of time the minerals will chemically react to create a hard water soap that makes the product cloudy and raises pH above its effective sanitation range.  Note that in a 5 gallon batch of beer, any residual Star San that was in your fermenter or bottles is not enough to cause any issues with head retention, aggregate pH or taste.




Nice.  All of what you say is true.  I remember at college they pushed the Star San for the dairy and of course iodine was the "competition".  For spot spray and carboy/corny keg I absolutely agree Star San a good way to go.  The iodine solution is more of a soaking thing.  What I hate is the star san for 12 oz or even bigger bottles.  That's where I really "fear the foam". 

Thanks for the tip with the RO water and Star San.  I will go that way next time Geo...


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14926195 - 08/15/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I understand why you'd be more concerned about the residual San in smaller bottles, though I still wouldn't worry about it.  Then again, I never have to worry about that because I don't use any sanitizer on my bottles.  When I do use bottles, I will make sure they are well cleaned and rinsed, cap 'em with foil, then lay them in the oven, crank the oven up to maximum and let 'em bake for 60 minutes.  Once they're cooled down, they're totally sterile and if your foil cap was nice and tight (I usually fold the foil a couple of times first), they'll stay sterile for quite a while... definitely days, likely for weeks and possibly even months!


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: geokills]
    #14927967 - 08/15/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I understand why you'd be more concerned about the residual San in smaller bottles, though I still wouldn't worry about it.  Then again, I never have to worry about that because I don't use any sanitizer on my bottles.  When I do use bottles, I will make sure they are well cleaned and rinsed, cap 'em with foil, then lay them in the oven, crank the oven up to maximum and let 'em bake for 60 minutes.  Once they're cooled down, they're totally sterile and if your foil cap was nice and tight (I usually fold the foil a couple of times first), they'll stay sterile for quite a while... definitely days, likely for weeks and possibly even months!




I used to do the bottles in the oven.  Then I read about it maybe weakening the glass plus it was more work than using the iodine at least for me.


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #14928385 - 08/15/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone into making Sour / Lambic beer ?


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: Brainiac]
    #14928715 - 08/15/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Anyone into making Sour / Lambic beer ?




Get that crap outta here!


Hahaha...    :calledajoke:


Personally, I have not dived into brewing sour beer or lambics.. in fact, I have not even tasted a proper sour beer.  I should probably get on that...




Off topic... but WHY THE FUCK AM I HEARING COMMERCIALS FOR BREWING SANITIZERS ON THIS PAGE!?  IT KEEPS LOOPING!!

I hate ads...  Oh Shroomery....




Anyway, ElChe and I attended an all-grain brewing class last week. Between that and the intense amounts of reading on all-grain we've been doing, I think we'll be tackling this endeavor inside the next 4-6 weeks.  Gotta get the proper equipment first, though... No point in putting all that work in for a measly 5 gallons of brew.



And, in other news, the "Red IPA" we had fermenting last we checked in has turned out to be a marvelous success.  Not quite "red" (but no "red ale" I have ever had has really been quite red), but it's a purely enjoyable sensory experience.  Full bodied but not too heavy, very smooth, fruity with (depending who you ask) notes of citrus (maybe grapefruit?) and dry fruit (my mom noted an apricot flavor on the back end). Perfect amount of maltiness to balance out the zing of the hops, which thankfully sticks with the brew from aroma to front-end bitterness to back-end aftertaste.  Very pleasant.  Probably our must successful brew (IMO) to date. 

The double-hopped pale ale we put together the week before that has also turned out quite splendidly.  Definitely an improvement over the first version we made (we tripled the hops!), and that beer in itself was quite well-liked.


Haven't found a person yet who hasn't been glowing with positive reviews of our beers.  That includes the brewmaster of the newest brewery opening here in town!



In our beerventures, I have determined that a bottle-conditioned beer isn't really worth handing to someone else for sampling until it's been in the bottle around 3 weeks (and the number only goes up from there depending on the type of brew). This is also assuming you're doing a relatively long fermentation, no shorter than 10 days. 

Still learning though... Don't take my word for it!


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Re: Home Brewing Beer [Re: shadowed]
    #14930178 - 08/16/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Anyone into making Sour / Lambic beer ?




Get that crap outta here!


Hahaha...    :calledajoke:


Personally, I have not dived into brewing sour beer or lambics.. in fact, I have not even tasted a proper sour beer.  I should probably get on that...




Off topic... but WHY THE FUCK AM I HEARING COMMERCIALS FOR BREWING SANITIZERS ON THIS PAGE!?  IT KEEPS LOOPING!!

I hate ads...  Oh Shroomery....




Anyway, ElChe and I attended an all-grain brewing class last week. Between that and the intense amounts of reading on all-grain we've been doing, I think we'll be tackling this endeavor inside the next 4-6 weeks.  Gotta get the proper equipment first, though... No point in putting all that work in for a measly 5 gallons of brew.



And, in other news, the "Red IPA" we had fermenting last we checked in has turned out to be a marvelous success.  Not quite "red" (but no "red ale" I have ever had has really been quite red), but it's a purely enjoyable sensory experience.  Full bodied but not too heavy, very smooth, fruity with (depending who you ask) notes of citrus (maybe grapefruit?) and dry fruit (my mom noted an apricot flavor on the back end). Perfect amount of maltiness to balance out the zing of the hops, which thankfully sticks with the brew from aroma to front-end bitterness to back-end aftertaste.  Very pleasant.  Probably our must successful brew (IMO) to date. 

The double-hopped pale ale we put together the week before that has also turned out quite splendidly.  Definitely an improvement over the first version we made (we tripled the hops!), and that beer in itself was quite well-liked.


Haven't found a person yet who hasn't been glowing with positive reviews of our beers.  That includes the brewmaster of the newest brewery opening here in town!



In our beerventures, I have determined that a bottle-conditioned beer isn't really worth handing to someone else for sampling until it's been in the bottle around 3 weeks (and the number only goes up from there depending on the type of brew). This is also assuming you're doing a relatively long fermentation, no shorter than 10 days. 

Still learning though... Don't take my word for it!




Our local brew club has a "Wild 'n Sour" event every year.  These guys are super into lambics and sours.  I have had several and will say that while "interesting" it's not something I would choose to drink or brew on any regular basis.  When the flavor note with "Brett" that you want is a wet horse blanket that somehow doesn't appeal.

Now, as to you non all grain brewers, WTF!  Get with the program, extract brewing is like making instant coffee.  If you think your instant coffee tastes as good as my top of the line British or German real malt with real leaf hops mostly home grown you are dreaming.  And it's easy and WAY cheaper once you start buying bulk grain. 

The sanitizer ads are probably compliments of Google with Geo and I discussing the merits of Star-San vs. Iodophor.

Well brew On Man.  Best of luck.


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