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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16092150 - 04/15/12 03:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Why aren't you the government :facepalm:

I partially translated this to Dutch and sent it to drug policy reform, Netherlands. Thanks for very good arguing points


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Beanhead]
    #16128115 - 04/23/12 11:17 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I must tell you all what happened this weekend. (every time 'he' speaks I quote EXACTLY what he said).

We were at a friends house party, having a good time. My friends son came in later in the evening, bringing some friends with him.

My wife heard one of his friends talking about the central banking system, she quickly got me, "This guy, knows what we know".

I went into the kitchen and asked him if he knew about the new world order, freemasonry, illuminati. He quickly said, "you dont have a fucking clue".

I mentioned chem-trails, FDA, CODEX, false flag terrorism, he smiled. "You have No fucking idea, I could sit here for days telling you the shit they are doing!! There's NOTHING you can do, NOTHING." I asked him where he got his information from. To which he lifted his trouser leg to reveal Freemason tattoo, "My whole family are Freemasons, believe me, WE ARE ALL FUCKED".

I asked him if he'd tried to warn people he quickly "Yes, they all fucking laughed and thought I was mad, so fuck them all. Fucking mock me and take the piss, when their throats are getting slashed, their kids are getting raped, their houses are being fucking ransacked, lets see the cunts laugh then. Fucking idiots have no idea whats coming to them," he then pointed to all our friends in the living room "ALL OF THEM deserve everything they get. Don't help them, just ride the wave, go with the flow"

I told him about this thread. He shook his head, "you conspire against these people, they WILL kill you, I promise you, if you dont stop, they will kill you" This was NOT a threat, it was a very emotional warning to me.

Everything I am saying has now been confirmed to me by two people related and in direct contact with freemasonry (from 2 separate parts of UK). I have NO doubt in my mind what is about to happen.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16128847 - 04/23/12 02:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Lol...This post cracked me up...

When you surround yourself with crazy, you're gonna hear a lot of crazy...


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16128962 - 04/23/12 03:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Lol...This post cracked me up...

When you surround yourself with crazy, you're gonna hear a lot of crazy...





I was anticipating your response as something along the lines of "anecdotes are inadmissable," but you "lol"ing at that macabre imagery surprised even me. Worst response ever. If you can laugh at something that evil, it should be easy to see why you're part of the problem.

I say you're a shill.

No intention of flaming. I just can't fathom how that would make you laugh. I say you're a shill because your tactic to disclaim the validity of that post was just to call it crazy. I've heard that one before. Why else ya got?

Again, not flaming. Trying to keep it peaceful with you enlil. You just made my jaw drop laughing at the thought of holocaust images.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: questioneverything]
    #16129216 - 04/23/12 04:11 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil said:
Lol...This post cracked me up...

When you surround yourself with crazy, you're gonna hear a lot of crazy...





I was anticipating your response as something along the lines of "anecdotes are inadmissable," but you "lol"ing at that macabre imagery surprised even me. Worst response ever. If you can laugh at something that evil, it should be easy to see why you're part of the problem.

I say you're a shill.

No intention of flaming. I just can't fathom how that would make you laugh. I say you're a shill because your tactic to disclaim the validity of that post was just to call it crazy. I've heard that one before. Why else ya got?

Again, not flaming. Trying to keep it peaceful with you enlil. You just made my jaw drop laughing at the thought of holocaust images.



That's why it's funny...because it's so ridiculous.  The fact that anyone would believe it is the very fact that makes it funny...

There isn't a single shred of evidence to support any of these theories about illuminati or the freemasons, yet an entire subculture of people who share ideas on the internet have created this vast mythology which includes everything from ritual child abuse to systematic rapes...

I'm not the one who makes this shit up...If you want to find the sick minds, you need to look at the sources of these wild theories.

The interesting part of all of it is that no one ever can come up with a single shred of reliable evidence that any of this stuff is real.  It's all wild speculation piled upon other wild speculation...


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16132912 - 04/24/12 11:31 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

The look in this guys eyes was pure terror, not madness, I have a friend who was raped, not even she had the look of terror that I saw in his eyes.

I completely understand you cannot comprehend what is happening, I was exactly the same 3 years ago. It was only when the LIES and DECEIT were uncovered about the drug law, that EVERYTHING else fell into place.

Honestly ENLIL answer my question, IF SOMEONE CAN HOLD BACK AND DENY THE CURE FOR CANCER, GIVING MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE A DEATH SENTENCE (regardless of race/colour/religion), WITH NO CARE WHATSOEVER FOR THE EXCRUTIATING PAIN, THE DECIMATION OF A FAMILY. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?

Wild speculation? Get your head out the sand and read this, nice to hear someone call Winston Churchill a speculator. You say I'm mad.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/lines.htm

QUOTE "LINES OF CREDIT: ROPES OF BONDAGE is about the financiers, their fellow conspirators and the plot to destroy Western Christian civilization. It was written for the concerned American – not for the skeptic.

In likelihood, the skeptic will, without ever having read it, dismiss this – with a roll of the eyes and wave of the hand while at the same time declaring it to be outrageous fiction – just another attempt to promote the "conspiracy theory of history."

Quite honestly, I did not write LINES OF CREDIT: ROPES OF BONDAGE with a hope or intention of convincing those "doubting Thomases" who, unlike the Apostle Thomas who finally believed, will continue to deny the existence of the conspiracy in spite of overwhelming and conclusive evidence to the contrary. Actually these skeptics are important to the conspirators; they are the "useful idiots" so cherished by Lenin."

I wonder what kind of people he's talking about??


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16133036 - 04/24/12 12:10 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)







I forgot to say I watched this on RT (russia today news), as far as I'm aware it was banned to be broadcast in America, this is why they want to control the web, so you dont see vids like this.....



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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16133109 - 04/24/12 12:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

More from RT,


and for us in the uk, 7/7, the truth..... (I live where one of the 'bombers' was from, all my Asian friends told me this was all a lie, I disbelieved, how wrong I was)


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16133560 - 04/24/12 02:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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The look in this guys eyes was pure terror, not madness, I have a friend who was raped, not even she had the look of terror that I saw in his eyes.

I completely understand you cannot comprehend what is happening, I was exactly the same 3 years ago. It was only when the LIES and DECEIT were uncovered about the drug law, that EVERYTHING else fell into place.

Honestly ENLIL answer my question, IF SOMEONE CAN HOLD BACK AND DENY THE CURE FOR CANCER, GIVING MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE A DEATH SENTENCE (regardless of race/colour/religion), WITH NO CARE WHATSOEVER FOR THE EXCRUTIATING PAIN, THE DECIMATION OF A FAMILY. WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS?

Wild speculation? Get your head out the sand and read this, nice to hear someone call Winston Churchill a speculator. You say I'm mad.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/lines.htm

QUOTE "LINES OF CREDIT: ROPES OF BONDAGE is about the financiers, their fellow conspirators and the plot to destroy Western Christian civilization. It was written for the concerned American – not for the skeptic.

In likelihood, the skeptic will, without ever having read it, dismiss this – with a roll of the eyes and wave of the hand while at the same time declaring it to be outrageous fiction – just another attempt to promote the "conspiracy theory of history."

Quite honestly, I did not write LINES OF CREDIT: ROPES OF BONDAGE with a hope or intention of convincing those "doubting Thomases" who, unlike the Apostle Thomas who finally believed, will continue to deny the existence of the conspiracy in spite of overwhelming and conclusive evidence to the contrary. Actually these skeptics are important to the conspirators; they are the "useful idiots" so cherished by Lenin."

I wonder what kind of people he's talking about??



I read the link you provided...but there is no evidence there to support anything like what you claimed in an earlier post.  This is simply a misguided fellow's attempt to defend his own irrational belief in a "God" by showing that some people who don't believe as he believes do things that aren't always nice..

How does this support your allegation of mass rapes and murder?

Answer:  It doesn't...

It also doesn't support any "conspiracy"...it supports a theory that multiple ideologies tend to conflict with each other and that people who adopt these ideologies tend to defend these ideologies with violence..

Again...no conspiracy is necessary for people to be ignorant, cruel and irrational...They need only be people.

The problem here is that neither you nor anyone who believes like you can ever even give one bit of evidence to support the theory that there is some grand conspiracy.  Sure, wars have made people rich.  Wars have been started to make people rich.  Many people have done many evil acts...That doesn't make it all part of some grand conspiracy.

Truthfully, you don't really want to expose anything...nor are you interested in changing anything...You just enjoy the comfort of believing in something...If you really wanted to change the world, you would be presenting real evidence in a logical and well formulated argument...in an attempt to convince people that your theory is correct.  If people believe what you say, they will line up in droves to help to fight it.  But you aren't interested in that...probably because you realize that you have no evidence that could ever convince anyone of the truth of your claims.  Your claims fall under the category of "matters of faith"...they cannot be proven...


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16134037 - 04/24/12 04:17 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Unfortunately, we are at a stage of you think I'm nuts, I think you're part of this.

If you don't like what I say, why keep coming onto my thread?

I make the statement that as far as I am concerned, there is no going back, I publish this information, not to scare people, not to make people angry, but to wake people up to the mind control which is making everyone think that war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Believe that we are all animals with no rights, who WILL work so one man can be a king.

I in no way incite a violent rebellion, so I absolutely pose no threat to anyone. If I am mad, at least Its peaceful mad, not massacre people (like the government) mad. I share this information not to convert anyone, just to make people aware of what is happening, and to give those who find out a glimmer of hope, that the shit they have been given in life, is NOT gods punishment, but ALL by the hands of MAN. To warn people the more you protest and riot, the worse things will become.

Not talking religion, I urge ANYONE with an ounce of sanity left, watch this vid, it called 'THE MONEY MASTERS'


I know many Atheists, evolutionists, they have NO belief in god, they don't go round killing people either. Not believing in god doesn't make you evil, so don't go twisting my words shill.

Enlil is clearly in the bankers pockets, there is NO way any decent human could make comments like he has. Some of your comments repulse me, yet I pity you, rather than hate you.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16136628 - 04/25/12 02:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

May just be a coincidence, but in my research of freemasonry, the freemasons believe they are 'ENLghtened'- the ILluminati (from the word illuminated)

ENLIL.

That sir, is a conspiracy theory :rofl:, No fact or vailidation, or evidence. Just a (very amusing) observation.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16136939 - 04/25/12 05:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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May just be a coincidence, but in my research of freemasonry, the freemasons believe they are 'ENLghtened'- the ILluminati (from the word illuminated)

ENLIL.

That sir, is a conspiracy theory :rofl:, No fact or vailidation, or evidence. Just a (very amusing) observation.



And you are most likely in favor of these mass rapes which you theorize will occur...

SPIRITeD REAMER...

In any case, this is typical bullshit.  When you are challenged on the validity and evidentuary support for your theory, you accuse the challenger of being a shill..

Well, whether it matters or not,  I work every day to fight government oppression.  All I do for a living is try to keep people out of government captivity and/or enslavement.  If that makes me a "shill", then so be it...but what does that make someone whose contribution is a thread on a drug forum? 

You can accuse me of whatever you want...and you can play word games with my handle...you can make wild speculations about this governmental conspiracy or that banking conspiracy...but, in the final analysis, you aren't actually DOING anything about it...You have already admitted that you're not interested in informing anyone who isn't already informed...

You want to preach to the choir...how very good that must make you feel about yourself....

But what about the 6 billion other people on the planet?  Don't they need your knowledge much more than your clan of conspiracy believers?  Or are you just practicing your own form of elitism?  You want to be the ones who have some esoteric understanding of how the world works without ever having the responsibility or task of leading anyone else to that knowledge...

Well...In my opinion, that is reprehensible...I don't believe in what you believe...I don't subscribe to the idea that there is some grand scheme by which some conspirators plan to enslave the world...BUT IF I DID...I would feel a moral obligation to do something about it...

You only feel an obligation to spout theories and disregard those who disagree...


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16141003 - 04/26/12 04:13 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't disregarded you. I clearly stated
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I completely understand you cannot comprehend what is happening, I was exactly the same 3 years ago. It was only when the LIES and DECEIT were uncovered about the drug law, that EVERYTHING else fell into place.




Thats not disregarding, thats understanding, and explaining my position.

The problem is, you did EXACTLY as I said you would, you didn't even see you were about to show your true colors, to everyone who visits this thread.

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In likelihood, the skeptic will, without ever having read it, dismiss this – with a roll of the eyes and wave of the hand while at the same time declaring it to be outrageous fiction – just another attempt to promote the "conspiracy theory of history."





Now, when I responded to you, I posted a document, which took me TWO DAYS to read, I posted several video's with a run time of over 8 HOURS.

You responded in less than 3 hours. There is NO possibility you looked at all of the evidence. So there is NO possibility you can give a justified and educated response.

You have made your decision I am 'mental', that my statements are 'hilarious' (even though the topic is nothing to be joked about), and now you say I've disregarded you. At least i had the decency to watch the video you asked me, to watch in full, and I also offered to give a FULL breakdown of the video. The ONLY thing you have done is insulted my intelligence, offended my beliefs, disregarded my message and twist my words.


Quote:

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But what about the 6 billion other people on the planet?  Don't they need your knowledge much more than your clan of conspiracy believers?  Or are you just practicing your own form of elitism?  You want to be the ones who have some esoteric understanding of how the world works without ever having the responsibility or task of leading anyone else to that knowledge...

Well...In my opinion, that is reprehensible...I don't believe in what you believe...I don't subscribe to the idea that there is some grand scheme by which some conspirators plan to enslave the world...BUT IF I DID...I would feel a moral obligation to do something about it...

You only feel an obligation to spout theories and disregard those who disagree...




I used to be an outdoor instructor, leading groups of children up mountains, along gorge walks, climbing, abseiling, we did team building exercises, this job was my steeping stone to understanding life. I saw with my own eyes how 'privileged' children we given all, while the 'lower' class was left to rot. I met kids who didn't even know what a sheep was.

You've just said you would feel a moral obligation to do something about it, why is that statement different to me? What do you do when a skeptic does as much as he can to destroy your warning?

You've also just said you don't believe me, I myself have been on UFO threads, Evolution threads, and although I don't believe, I would never jump into that persons thread to insult them, or despute their beliefs.

Why am I on a drug forum, because I take drugs, I saw the unjustified law, I saw the unfair persecution, I saw the abuse. I looked into the drug law, and all I found was a pack of lies, deceit, corruption, murder and an empire of corporations killing our world, and the people on it.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16141050 - 04/26/12 04:42 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

First, you need to understand that this isn't YOUR thread...this is A thread on someone else's site...

Second, of course I didn't watch your videos...I read the material on the link you provided...You said "In likelihood, the skeptic will, without ever having read it, dismiss this"...However, I did read it...I also read this entire thread...

I'm not interested in a talking head video...I'm interested in evidence.  Conspiracy theorists seem to think that the more videos they link, the more evidence they're providing...That isn't true.

Where is YOUR argument backed by cited evidence...primary sources...

Posting video after video of talking heads spewing theories isn't evidence...that's multiple people making arguments...

P.S.  I never asked you to watch a video or give a breakdown...I simply posted a video as a response to a video...Neither one is evidence.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16141801 - 04/26/12 10:00 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

No, this is MY thread on someone else's site. If the Moderators wish they may ban me at any time or close the thread. But this falls under the UN's Human rights act, Freedom of speech, The right to an opinion, and the right to discuss this. (What I said the government are trying to ban)

There is No chance you could have read the WHOLE Lines of Credit, Ropes of Bondage in 3 Hours. I say you're speaking out of your bum hole.

Again, you judge, ridicule, mock and openly dispute something you haven't even seen. The thread alone is gobbledygook. The video's are vital to understanding. Especially 9/11 and 7/7, there is photographic evidence, witness testemony, police statements and full run down of events. YOU choose not to look.

If you watch the video's, before you ridiculed them you'd know exactly who the sources were, and have a basic knowledge of what those arguments were. Yet instead you demand evidence directly from me. Like I have all of the document and people right here next to me.

If you didn't want me to watch a vid why did you post it? That makes no sense whatsoever?! This is a thread which I started and I look over, if no-one believes the first few pages, they will immediately switch to another thread dismissing everything they have read, so you must find something a threat?

Usual course of a shill-

1) Abuse - verbal insults,
2) Mental Issues- likens threads to mental illnesses
3) Questions Authenticity - yet refuses to view material
4) Twists words - Will usually liken the OP to the people who they are speaking against.

(you ticked all boxes)

The aim is to upset/anger the op into submission to end the thread.

If you spent the time watching the facts, listening to the evidence instead of arguing with me we may be able to have a proper discussion. Which I am more than happy to do.

However, You have made the statement you are not going to watch the things I post, you will not read the documents I post, so their is no need for any communication with you any further. You can 'cry wolf' and call me crazy, I knew what to expect before I began to post this stuff, I expect nothing else.

My thread and my links will continue......


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #16141987 - 04/26/12 11:00 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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No, this is MY thread on someone else's site. If the Moderators wish they may ban me at any time or close the thread. But this falls under the UN's Human rights act, Freedom of speech, The right to an opinion, and the right to discuss this. (What I said the government are trying to ban)




Incorrect.  This is a website operated in the US, and freedom of speech is only protected against government censorship...The owners of this site can remove this thread at anytime...human rights have nothing to do with it.  And anyone else that uses this site has as much right to this thread as you.
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There is No chance you could have read the WHOLE Lines of Credit, Ropes of Bondage in 3 Hours. I say you're speaking out of your bum hole.




Another barefaced accusation with no foundation.  I read a lot...every day...That's what lawyers do...Call me a liar all you want...I read it.
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Again, you judge, ridicule, mock and openly dispute something you haven't even seen. The thread alone is gobbledygook. The video's are vital to understanding. Especially 9/11 and 7/7, there is photographic evidence, witness testemony, police statements and full run down of events. YOU choose not to look.




I choose not to watch propaganda videos without any foundation whatsoever...I also choose not to watch the over 30 hours of video you have on this thread...90% of it is simply allegations with no support...

If YOU have a particular theory that YOU wish to support with evidence, I am all eyes...Simply state your theory and the evidence that you have to support it...I will GLADLY give you that courtesy...That is not the same as simply linking 30 hours of video and expecting others to go through it looking for the one or two plausible theories within.
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If you watch the video's, before you ridiculed them you'd know exactly who the sources were, and have a basic knowledge of what those arguments were. Yet instead you demand evidence directly from me. Like I have all of the document and people right here next to me.




That's just my point...those videos don't cite sources either...I gave one of your videos 15 minutes before I realized that they were full of speculation without any evidentuary support...Again...if there is even an hour of good material in all you linked, it isn't worth going through 30 hours to find it...

But I suspect you can't tell the difference anymore
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If you didn't want me to watch a vid why did you post it? That makes no sense whatsoever?! This is a thread which I started and I look over, if no-one believes the first few pages, they will immediately switch to another thread dismissing everything they have read, so you must find something a threat?




Where is the logical nexus there?  How do you come to the conclusion that I find a "threat" if I continue to read the thread?  That is another barefaced conclusion without any logical support...
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Usual course of a shill-

1) Abuse - verbal insults,
2) Mental Issues- likens threads to mental illnesses
3) Questions Authenticity - yet refuses to view material
4) Twists words - Will usually liken the OP to the people who they are speaking against.

(you ticked all boxes)




It's always nice when you get to make up the definitions of things as you go along...that's probably very convenient.
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The aim is to upset/anger the op into submission to end the thread.




The aim is to get you to a) argue and support your theory, or b) accept that it is meritless. 

Where you are now, you believe a ton of stuff without any logical reason to believe it...You're not alone in this...billions of people believe that some dude 2000 years ago came back from the dead...

At least those people don't pretend that their belief is logical and based on evidence...they accept that it's a matter of faith...If your beliefs are a matter of faith, that's fine, too...but don't pretend that they are fact.
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If you spent the time watching the facts, listening to the evidence instead of arguing with me we may be able to have a proper discussion. Which I am more than happy to do.




As I said before...I gave a video 15 minutes..where was no evidence..there were no facts...there were just bare allegations.
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However, You have made the statement you are not going to watch the things I post, you will not read the documents I post, so their is no need for any communication with you any further. You can 'cry wolf' and call me crazy, I knew what to expect before I began to post this stuff, I expect nothing else.




I read the document you linked...but, of course, you simply call me a liar...That's another convenient technique...
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I have no doubt.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Enlil]
    #16142080 - 04/26/12 11:28 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Enlil whose evidence will you accept?

Illegalization of plants and the marketing of pharmaceuticals that cause "an increased risk of death."

Media filled with nothing but stimuli to consume, pursue money and illicit sex, look down on poor people, and disregard people that say anything contrary to the status quo.

Video games and other entertainment that flaunt gratuitous violence.

An entire generation raised before your very eyes to do nothing more than stay distracted from the pressing issues of the human condition. 

Do you not connect any dots between these things? Is there a breaking point at which you will say that all these overlapping criteria came about with more intent than just mere coincidence? Or are you not so dumb as you play and come here to just disinform?


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Re: My response to Government [Re: questioneverything]
    #16142137 - 04/26/12 11:44 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Enlil whose evidence will you accept?




The source of the evidence is not important to me...I am only concerened about the reliability of the evidence.  I just refuse to watch 30 hours of video looking for some piece of evidence there...If you have evidence...bring it forward...if the OP does...I'd love to see it.
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Illegalization of plants and the marketing of pharmaceuticals that cause "an increased risk of death."




What do you think this is evidence of?
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Media filled with nothing but stimuli to consume, pursue money and illicit sex, look down on poor people, and disregard people that say anything contrary to the status quo.




What do you think this is evidence of?
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Video games and other entertainment that flaunt gratuitous violence.




What do you think this is evidence of?
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An entire generation raised before your very eyes to do nothing more than stay distracted from the pressing issues of the human condition. 




What do you think this is evidence of?
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Do you not connect any dots between these things? Is there a breaking point at which you will say that all these overlapping criteria came about with more intent than just mere coincidence? Or are you not so dumb as you play and come here to just disinform?



See...you see these as part of a plan...I don't see that as being logical or necessary...

People are inherrently flawed...We try to make a society, but it will always be reflective of the flaws of us as a species...So we see a problem like drug addiction...we address it with prohibition and force to maintain it...is it effective?  of course not, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't originally hoped to be...

Media, including video games and other forms of entertainment all serve the same purpose...to entertain...Eventually, these forms of entertainment pander to the most banal and base aspects of the human species...that turns out to be the quest for sex and control of land...

For you, all of this looks to be by design, but that is the same logic that people use when they see the universe and believe that it had to have a designer..See, the laws of the universe, if left to work for many eons, create the universe as we know it....there doesn't have to be a plan...

The same is true of our society...the nature of human beings creates the society we have.  It is as flawed, narcissistic, and neurotic as we are...that's just the way it happens..

There didn't need to be a God to create the universe...there doesn't need to be an illuminati to create a fucked up world...


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    #16142178 - 04/26/12 11:57 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Dude, LOOK at it. Smaller pieces of a big puzzle. My generation doesn't spend a day in serious thought. Instead they wake, plug into that television, work like cogs in the gears of a socialist apparatus, plug back into the tv, then go to sleep. Who does this strategy work for? The individual or the well maintained society of complacent consumers who'd rather be told what to think than to meditate and use their own discernment? Who's benefitting from this? I'm not. I see people recycling useless dribble over and over.


You're distracted like the rest of 'em man.


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    #16142304 - 04/26/12 12:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Dude, LOOK at it. Smaller pieces of a big puzzle. My generation doesn't spend a day in serious thought. Instead they wake, plug into that television, work like cogs in the gears of a socialist apparatus, plug back into the tv, then go to sleep. Who does this strategy work for? The individual or the well maintained society of complacent consumers who'd rather be told what to think than to meditate and use their own discernment? Who's benefitting from this? I'm not. I see people recycling useless dribble over and over.


You're distracted like the rest of 'em man.




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What do you think this is evidence of?





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