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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15534726 - 12/18/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

THIS ILLUMINATI CARD GAME WAS RELEASED 1995!!! please look carefully.



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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15534804 - 12/18/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

None of these websites, videos, pictures, phrases or card games show any real evidence. It all looks fictionalized. it is as if there are people who are paranoid and because of that there are people capitalizing on the paranoia.

where is the HARD evidence?

This discussion is tantamount to discussing religions. No one is right no one is wrong. Whatever you believe IS your reality.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15534995 - 12/18/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

lol, they own the CIA, FBI, members of the vatican, royal family, there is NO hard evidence, just a trail of slavery, murder, greed and mind control. Illuminati members have found out the truth, realised who and what they serve, then tried to tell people.

I quote from Robert Henry Goldsborough, (RELEASED BY A FORMER ILLUMINATI).....

"Quite honestly, I did not write LINES OF CREDIT: ROPES OF BONDAGE with a hope or intention of convincing those "doubting Thomases" who, unlike the Apostle Thomas who finally believed, will continue to deny the existence of the conspiracy in spite of overwhelming and conclusive evidence to the contrary. Actually these skeptics are important to the conspirators; they are the "useful idiots" so cherished by Lenin.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15535138 - 12/18/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

imho i think that regardless of what illuminati or what secret regimes are in charge, the political leaders and even the political systems themselves are all corrupted by greed.

regardless of who or what is pulling the strings, it is our duty as citizens of earth to end violence, hunger and poverty; spread peace,  compassion and tolerance.

Change starts in your own thoughts and through your own actions.

Well keep up the good fight, peace :sun:


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15535304 - 12/18/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nice to see you back SD.  Keep the posts comin'


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Re: My response to Government [Re: extreme]
    #15535419 - 12/18/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nice one extreme.

Remember...  its all just a coincidence.:wink:



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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15535457 - 12/18/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



The illuminati are very number orientated, what does 9+11 equal?


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15536156 - 12/18/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Why are they so number orientated?
Why are they hiding images of their plans in origami currency and card games?


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15536286 - 12/18/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They are into Scientology, Numerology, Astronomy ect. Numbers are very important to them, they all have a significant meaning.

Like the www. at the beginning of every website, www in hebrew is 666.

They have secret signs, hand gestures, and incorporate hidden messages for there own personal pleasure. Like with 'happy slapping', recording yourself hitting an innocent passer-by, then showing it off to all your friends, like that but much sicker.

The bigger the lie the more people will believe, very twisted.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15536963 - 12/18/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

In the June 1970 issue of Popular Science magazine Arthur C. Clarke was reported to have predicted that satellites would one day "bring the accumulated knowledge of the world to your fingertips" using a console that would combine the functionality of the Xerox, telephone, television and a small computer, allowing data transfer and video conferencing around the globe.[6]
In March 1989, Tim Berners-Lee wrote a proposal that referenced ENQUIRE, a database and software project he had built in 1980, and described a more elaborate information management system.[7]
With help from Robert Cailliau, he published a more formal proposal (on November 12, 1990) to build a "Hypertext project" called "WorldWideWeb" (one word, also "W3") as a "web" of "hypertTxt documents" to be viewed by "browsers" using a client–server architecture.[3] This proposal estimated that a read-only web would be developed within three months and that it would take six months to achieve "the creation of new links and new material by readers, [so that] authorship becomes universal" as well as "the automatic notification of a reader when new material of interest to him/her has become available." While the read-only goal was met, accessible authorship of web content took longer to mature, with the wiki concept, blogs, Web 2.0 and RSS/Atom.[8]


- from Wikipedia.

let me guess, Robert Cailiau and Tim Berners-Lee were probably members of the illuminati as well as satan worshipers and they just happened to be internet engineers in their spare time...?

and at the same time they also called the world wide web w3 which equals 63... 6+3=9 turn tha 9 upside down and its a 6 :eek: ...spoooooooooOOOoooooooOOOOooky.:rolleyes:

considering the internet is a web of computers that spans the entire world, having the www stands for world wide web just doesnt make any sense at all.....

edit: source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web


Edited by deadmandave (12/18/11 08:23 PM)


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15537127 - 12/18/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I liked your letters promoting legalization sucks how you went troll/batshit crazy.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Trypppy]
    #15537165 - 12/18/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Spirit dreamer is not batshit crazy, each individual experiences the world uniquely. The evidence can be perceived in many different ways. And there definitely are nut jobs in this world, with too much power, that will ruin peoples lives just to make a buck.

It is good and healthy for a society to have some paranoia so in the event that something is going on at least a few vigilant humans will be watching and trying to warn the rest of us.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15537263 - 12/18/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

batshit crazy, paranoia, whatever. my point is I don't buy it.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: Trypppy]
    #15538483 - 12/19/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Listen guys, I wrote to the government, mp's, drug council, NO ONE could give me a reasonable answer, which was understandable to an educated adult mind. These are the people who run the country and make laws, they COULD NOT answer.

Ok, I have NEVER told anyone this,

If you read my first letter to the government, I state that I have strict religious parents. No birthdays, no Christmas.

My brother left when I was 7, (all I knew then is because he turned away from god) didn't see him for over 11 years. My sister was cast out of the family when I was 9. I'll never forget me and my 11 year old brother were playing in the living room when there was loud knocking at the door. My mum came in telling us to go upstairs. We went into the bathroom upstairs and listened. My sister had come round to see us, my mum refused to let her in. She was SCREAMING "I WANT TO SEE MY LITTLE BROTHERS", my brother and I were upstairs crying. It was so horrible.

I had to go to church until I was 16. I sat and listened to the sermons, listened to the talk of love, tolerance and forgiveness and thought 'hypocrites'. I blamed god for the break up of my family. I turned my back on god and religion.

Life went by I abused drugs, shagged anything, battered people, vandalised property, stole. I met people who showed me how to make explosives, had guns. You have NO idea what path I was on, what I could have became.

Luckily, that little bit of conscience inside me, told me I was on the wrong path. I had a choice, I was at rock bottom thousands of pounds in debt, start doing what my friends were doing, selling Class A and weapons, or turn my life around.

As my story states, I did indeed turn my life around. I began to realise that the drug law was incorrect, it wasn't based on actual evidence or facts (as you agreed with to start with). I had a very reasonable and educated response. I discussed my opinion with friends, and everyone agreed. So I wrote to the government.

Their response made me curious, I asked myself WHY, HOW and WHEN drugs were made illegal. This led me to the 1920's. Cannabis aka hemp was grown world wide. Its uses are endless. Rockefella/Dupont had invested in the oil industry and timber industry. As the seeds of cannabis can be made into oil/fuel and the stems used as paper/fabric, his industries were about to have MAJOR competition. They began a media hate campaign against cannabis, known as 'reefa madness', they turned cannabis into 'the devils harvest'. When making it illegal they twisted the story and secretly renamed cannabis/hemp to the Mexican translation Marijuana, so the people who banned it didn't even know what plant they'd actually banned!!

Please, please look into the history of cannabis. It is all their, HARD evidence.

That then opened the question of who are Rockefella and Dupont? This led me to the 'seven sisters' oil company their connection to weaponry, NASA, medical industry and the 'freemason' cult. Even I dismissed the freemason part at first.

Then I realised that the News Corp was funded by Rockefella, so he owns/funds and profits from all of these industries, all of whom can/will support him. The News Corp owns hundreds of newspapers, magazines, TV channels, news channels, movie companies and music labels. Unlike with reefa madness, their propaganda spreads WORLDWIDE! (All of this can be checked out)

So then I thought, so... why does the church not allow drugs? My parents left me a little bible book, it gives explanations about why they believe certain things. I flicked to the drugs section, what name do I see, Dupont. ""boom"" WTF is this liar doing in a book about god!!??

This led me to the pharma industry, and the cure for cancer. There a several treatments for cancer, NO DRUGS, NO CHEMOTHERAPY, NO RADIOTHERAPY. (Thousands of testaments available, and doctors confirming worldwide).

What sort of sick bastards would DENY the cure for cancer ONLY for PROFIT. Something inside of me clicked, can't explain, like being in the dark then suddenly having a candle and seeing a light switch. A scripture I kept going over and over and over in my mind, Revelations 13:14 AND IT MISLEADS THOSE WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH (about the beast).

Something WAS not right. This led me back to the freemasons, what they believed, what their aim was, so many people throughout history 'their aim is to destroy Christianity'. I stumbled upon a freemason magazine stared in the 1900's called the 'WATCHTOWER', one of the magazines in the Jehovah's witness faith. I learned how the Vatican was granted wealth and power for its compliance.

When you think about this logically, with reason and understanding. If you aim to destroy something, how do you do it silently, without question?

1. You infect it, you start at the base. You gain trust.
2. You progress, you work your way up to a high position.
3. You get into the high position, you 'employ' pre selected members to travel, spreading the poison further.
4. Because of your position, people trust and believe.
5. This passes on through generations until a twisted/distorted mess is left. (how many variations of Christianity are there?)
6. People on the 'outside' see the chaos and confusion, immediately dismissing the possibility.
7. Because of the 'religious' support of war, people associate hatred and war with god. Turning people against god. When the actual cause is the evil distorted and corrupt preaching of man.

This logic made me think about my family. It was broken up by religion, NOT GOD. The twisted preaching of their religious leaders cast my sister out of our family, showing her no compassion, love or forgiveness, this turned her against god, against religion. It screwed my head up, and TURNED me into the little devil I became. Their whole plan WORKED!! 4 people, me, 2 brothers, and sister all against god AND they had broken up a family. It turned  3 of my brothers into a life of crime, sex and greed.

I now see how it works.

IT AINT FUCKING WORKING NO MORE. I am awake and I am free.


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youtube vid - 'the truth about drugs' - (part 2)
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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15538537 - 12/19/11 07:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

forgot to say..

The bible does NOT say do not use drugs. It talks about the way in which they are used. The same as it does not say do not drink, it says do not get drunk.

Again, the aim is to cast out innocent people from the church who use drugs, turn the misled Christians against drug users, to support the 'cleansing' war on drugs. To turn drug users against Christianity when they see the hypocrisy of a church leader drinking alcohol, and blame god for the unfair and unjust persecution. When again, it is based upon FALSE teachings of man.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15539030 - 12/19/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yep i agree with you, MJ was made illegal so that the Rockefellers would profit and also because of prejudice against asian immigrants.

Many churches could be corrupt, many are, we have all probably seen religious cults that do horrible things to children, women and men. imho it is best to view religions with an open mind, never accept anything just because a person in power has accepted and is now preaching it.

Thats not to say all religions are bad. My family, my moms extended family are all devout catholics. I saw many hypocrisies in their religion and denounced their faith when i was 18. I am not shunned by anyone of them or treated differently because of my differing beliefs. I also feel that many religions (not all) convey good morel teachings to the followers.

What the dalai llamma has said we could use is a set of universal morels that are not tied to any religion, which i tend to think is a good idea.

As timothy leary said "Think for yourself, question authority."  I suppose that is why it is so hard for me to believe all these conspiracy theories. There are people preaching some pretty weird shit on both sides and it is in my best interest to question all of them, to research both sides and really not choose a side but make my own decisions and live my life freely :sun:

and if you can source any of the cures for cancer that would be great :awesome:


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Re: My response to Government [Re: deadmandave]
    #15539215 - 12/19/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15539245 - 12/19/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Again, the scientists who claim cancer is not curable, check out these people, who they work for.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15539283 - 12/19/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If you read my first letter to the government, I state that I have strict religious parents. No birthdays, no Christmas.

My brother left when I was 7, (all I knew then is because he turned away from god) didn't see him for over 11 years. My sister was cast out of the family when I was 9. I'll never forget me and my 11 year old brother were playing in the living room when there was loud knocking at the door. My mum came in telling us to go upstairs. We went into the bathroom upstairs and listened. My sister had come round to see us, my mum refused to let her in. She was SCREAMING "I WANT TO SEE MY LITTLE BROTHERS", my brother and I were upstairs crying. It was so horrible.

I had to go to church until I was 16. I sat and listened to the sermons, listened to the talk of love, tolerance and forgiveness and thought 'hypocrites'. I blamed god for the break up of my family. I turned my back on god and religion.




were you a j.w.? this sounds a lot like what happens to witness kids. i was one until i was 17, and my quest for truth has led me to see a lot of the same things you are seeing. i would never call you crazy.


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Re: My response to Government [Re: SpiritDreamer]
    #15539336 - 12/19/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



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