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Protestors should protest killing in schools.
    #1489707 - 04/24/03 04:01 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get me wrong but most of the anti-war folk are against killing.
So why not protest against kids killing their principals and others. Go protest damnit go go go and make it stop!

14 year old kills principal and self

(CNN) -- A 14-year-old student shot and fatally wounded his principal before killing himself in front of students in the school cafeteria, police and school officials said Thursday.

The shootings occurred at 7:34 a.m. at Red Lion Area Junior High School, southeast of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Principal Eugene Segro was pronounced dead at York Hospital.

"Whether [the principal] was targeted .... we don't know," said Red Lion Borough Police Chief Walt Hughes. "We're still looking into that."

The student was armed with several handguns, said Hughes, who did not identify the boy.

The handguns were not automatic weapons and it appears they were brought to the school in the student's book bag, he said.

York County Coroner Barry Bloss said the principal and student had one bullet wound each. The principal was shot with a.44 caliber handgun, and the student died from a .22 caliber handgun, he said.

No one else was hurt. Students from the junior high and a nearby high school and an elementary school were dismissed.

Larry Macaluso, Red Lion Area school superintendent, was asked about security at the school.


An ambulance carries the body of the boy who killed his school principal before taking his own life.
"Our schools are locked when students are in the building in the morning and anyone entering the building must be identified and then report to the office," Macaluso said. He said the school doesn't search students entering the building.

There are no metal detectors in the school, Macaluso said, and "we have not had any security checks of students up until this time."

"The school district is grieving the loss of our beloved junior high school principal, Dr. Segro, and the student involved," Macaluso said."We will continue to make plans to deal with the rest of our students, the staff and our parents and have them work through this."

Counseling sessions for students and informational meetings for parents were planned for later in the day, Macaluso said.

Myra Reichart with the Pennsylvania State Education Association -- the union that represents teachers at the school district -- said a crisis response team is being formed and will be sent to Red Lion. "We're always concerned when these kinds of things happen," she said.

The same school district was the site of a machete attack on a kindergarten class that wounded 11 children, the principal, and two teachers at Winterstown Elementary School in February 2001. William Michael Stankewicz pleaded guilty to attempted murder and other charges. He was allegedly upset about his divorce and allegations that he molested his stepdaughters.




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Anonymous

Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489735 - 04/24/03 04:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

get a life


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: ]
    #1489741 - 04/24/03 04:10 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks, have one. You?


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489766 - 04/24/03 04:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You're comparing a warped kid with a warped government?


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489770 - 04/24/03 04:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

"Don't get me wrong but most of the anti-war folk are against killing.
So why not protest against kids killing their principals and others. Go protest damnit go go go and make it stop!"

This isn't worthy of a responce.... :tongue:
..well not one that wouldn't get me banned!


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1489787 - 04/24/03 04:17 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Common, surely someone as educated as you can make a civilized argument to that statement, without being rude that is. :tongue:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489815 - 04/24/03 04:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I would, but to any intellegent being your argument defeats itself...
Its really not worth investing any amount of time or effort, but basically a teenager killing a principal has nothing to do with americas current situation.


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    #1489835 - 04/24/03 04:24 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

people who have lives don't make posts this stupid.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489840 - 04/24/03 04:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Oh god, I could hear it now, if people started protesting school shootings, all the righties would be bitching about how stupid the left is for wanting to take away their guns.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: Skikid16]
    #1489853 - 04/24/03 04:28 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone NEEDS a gun, because everyone HAS a gun. :tongue:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1489873 - 04/24/03 04:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Just as protestors have no effect on what the government has planned.  The point, in case you never saw it is "Give up, your loud overly expressed opinion doesn't change everyones minds".  :wink:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1489903 - 04/24/03 04:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

You don't actually expect most of the "lefties" here to get a point, do you?


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1489909 - 04/24/03 04:43 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Everyone NEEDS a gun, because everyone HAS a gun. :tongue: 




I have guns, I go hunting all the time.  I also stand up when I pee.
Not everyone needs guns but those who chose should be aloud to have them.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1489911 - 04/24/03 04:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

You don't actually expect most of the "lefties" here to get a point, do you? 




LOL :grin:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1490027 - 04/24/03 05:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

And why don't you bestow upon those of us who fail to see the light, the wisdom that is this thread instead of filling it with your usual mindless rightwing, "libbie"-bashing drivel?


Quote:

"Give up, your loud overly expressed opinion doesn't change everyones minds".




This is hardly a point. Instead it is a poorly expressed attempt at wit which manifests itself through tragedy. How clever.

There are those who are highly outspoken against such occurances, though I suppose when one's eyes are staring at the inner walls of their colon this is hard to see. There are plenty who are outspoken against murder and crime in general.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1490067 - 04/24/03 05:25 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

"Give up, your loud overly expressed opinion doesn't change everyones minds".


 

This is hardly a point. Instead it is a poorly expressed attempt at wit which manifests itself through tragedy. How clever.

There are those who are highly outspoken against such occurances, though I suppose when one's eyes are staring at the inner walls of their colon this is hard to see. There are plenty who are outspoken against murder and crime in general. 




Tragedy that may never have happened if you were out protesting. :wink:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1490072 - 04/24/03 05:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:smirk:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1490093 - 04/24/03 05:33 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

lol! hahahha.......
:smirk: :smirk: :smirk:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1490103 - 04/24/03 05:37 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:wink:LOL HAHAHAHAA........


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1490117 - 04/24/03 05:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

:frown: :frown: :frown:
:mad: :cool: :blush: :grin: :grin: :smirk: :shocked: :laugh:

:wink: :wink: :tongue: :laugh: :ooo: :cool: :smirk: :smirk: :confused:

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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1490126 - 04/24/03 05:41 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

/*yawn* I didn't think anybody would be up to challenge. Later.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1491472 - 04/25/03 01:02 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

It's hardly a challenge TB.

School shootings are poor decisions executed by sick individuals no one could control.

War, especially the Iraq war, was a policy decision. Since our elected officials are already in place, and the voting has been done, the only way for the masses to make their will known is to do things like protest. Did it work? Obviously not. Was it wrong or right to protest? Not at all. It was within the protesters rights, they did the only legal thing they could to make their position known and try to influence policy.

Policy was directly influenced by civil unrest during the Vietnam war. This time around their weren't enough people to be loud enough, so the war went ahead.

Now why don't you explain to us exactly how millions of people attempting to influence government policy through their right to assemble is even slightly comparable to a single indiscrimination by an individual that no one could ever foresee. The Iraq was could be foreseen, thus people tried to prevent it. School shootings (for the most part) cannot be foreseen - if they could the kid would be arrested before it happened.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1491517 - 04/25/03 01:26 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, come back. You were clever enough to make this brilliant post, so you're surely clever enough to explain why the fact that it makes no sense to protest an unforeseeable action by an individual dictates that it makes no sense to protest foreseeable policy decision by one's government.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: ]
    #1493577 - 04/25/03 04:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm, i guess he conceds the point! :smirk:


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1493598 - 04/25/03 04:30 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Civillians killed as a result of the war on Iraq so far this year: 1955-2402 (from iraqbodycount.net)
Civillians killed as a result of school shootings so far this year: 2-3 (?)

What was the question again?


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1494368 - 04/25/03 10:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

So you imply that you made some grand point no one can refute. Then, when someone exposes it for the garbage it was, you disappear. I like your style.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: ]
    #1496215 - 04/26/03 06:01 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, I came to this thread to say, much more poorly, what Fiend said so well!

Good post.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: ]
    #1496405 - 04/26/03 07:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

"So you imply that you made some grand point no one can refute. Then, when someone exposes it for the garbage it was, you disappear. I like your style."

I think he may have just been trying to get you guys riled up. If he was, it worked pretty well.


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Re: Protestors should protest killing in schools. [Re: ]
    #1498526 - 04/27/03 08:00 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Good show Fiend :smile:

Hey Tackle, he put out a very logical argument which I happen to agree with.  Where's your response?  Debates are usually a bit more fun when the opposing side has a point to argue... 


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