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 Re: ID Request: 27 photos in SE suburbs, Melbourne, Victoria  [Re: veritas_VIC_AU]
#1488829 - 04/24/03 09:21 AM (23 years, 1 month ago) |
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Welcome aboard. Nice photos.
Your commentary among the photos is useful.
Here are a few tips for your next foray and for identification:
1. Don't use plastic bags (as you were considering). Mushrooms rot and go bad very quickly in plastic. Use waxed paper or brown paper. The mushrooms need to breathe a little to avoid the growth of bacteria (don't want food poisoning).
2. Photos for identification almost always need to include the underside of the mushroom, showing the gills and stem. The base of the stem is important for identifying some mushrooms. The top of the mushroom is important, too, but the underside is usually more important.
3. Pick the mushrooms you want identified. Take them home and make spore prints (read the FAQ above for more details). Write a description for each collection. Keep the collections separate (don't mix species in a bag). Note the habitat they were growing in (you did that some). In particular, learn to identify the more common trees in your area. Lots of mushrooms grow under specific kinds of trees.
4. When identifying, start at the higher end of the tree and work your way down to species. First, learn to identify the families of mushrooms. Genus is the big one you want to be able to do. Once you can identify mushrooms to genus, then focus on the more common and distinctive members of the genera you're interested in.
5. Relying on matching photographs for identification doesn't work very well. Instead, learn the important characteristics of each family, genus, and species. If you find a mushroom that seems to match the characteristics, then compare it to a photo for confirmation.
Let's run through your photos and see what you've got (using your mushroom numbers).
1. You didn't give any information about the gills or spore print color. Based on the cap appearance it could be a Tricholoma or an Agaricus maybe. Spore print color would tell us which immediately. Then we could get additional information to help get to species.
2. We need a spore print for this one. I don't think it's a Panaeolus.
3. Tricholoma, maybe? Spore print!
4. It's not a Gymnopilus. Spore print and show us the underside.
5. Spore print (you're probably getting sick of hearing that by now). If I had to guess I'd probably go with Agrocybe for this one.
6. Spore print. We really need to see the underside of this one to guess.
7. Panaeolus foenisecii grows in lawns normally. You got the underside of this one in photo 8, but we can't really see the gills because it's dark in there. For a specimen like this, cut the mushroom in half vertically and show us the cross section.
8. Gymnopilus doesn't have black/brown gills. They tend to be orange mushrooms. Seeing the underside of these would be helpful. given how fibrous the caps look I might start with a guess of Inocybe (a very dangerous genus). They could also be Stropharia.
9. It's not Psilocybe cubensis. You took a great photo of the underside here (#12). The gills are the wrong color and there isn't a ring on the stem. We need a spore print to get this one, and a cross section would be helpful, too.
10. Again you got the underside in a good photo. It's not in the genus Psilocybe. I would probably start my guesses with Lepiota. A spore print would help a lot.
11. You got an underside, but it's a little fuzzy. A cross section would help on this one, and a spore print would be essential. Given the pinkish color of the gills I would start my guesses with either Entoloma or Agaricus, dependong on spore print color.
12. Spore print and underside of cap. I can't even begin to guess on this one.
13. They're not Psilocybe cubensis. What color were the gills? Spore print and underside of cap.
14. Good underside shot. I don't think that's a Psilocybe. Given the gill color I might go with Entoloma. Spore print would be essential on this one.
15. Is it a puffball? An Amanita? We need to see the underside and a cross section on this one. And, of course, a spore print.
16. Interesting looking. We need the usual stuff.
17. This is a mushroom that can be identified from the photo. It's Coprinus comatus, which is a choice edible. Eat them while the gills are still white. Once they start to turn colored they go bad fast. Get them home in a hurry and cook them up. Goes great with eggs.
Next you show some more specimens of #10. Above I guessed Lepiota. If the spores are brown then I would say they are Inocybe. Mushrooms looking like those (in either of those genera) would be poisonous and potentially lethal. Spore print color would tell us which genus of the 2.
Please don't take this all as harsh criticism. I'm trying to give you enough tips to help make your next foray more successful. You're finding mushrooms like crazy which is a great first step. Your photos are (mostly) very sharp and show the mushrooms well. A little more info and we could be on the way to identifying what you're finding so you can find what you want.
Happy mushrooming!
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